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« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2012, 08:23:06 PM »

I looked at the Nestopia .tp file format today.  It turns out they're just a headerless unsigned 8-bit PCM wave file with a 32000 Hz sampling rate.  You can do an "Import Raw Data" in Audacity (settings here) and save it as a wav file.  Hook up an audio cable from your PC to the FB keyboard and you can load it up on the real hardware.  Conversion works in the other direction, too.
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« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2012, 09:11:10 PM »

Maybe.

I'll try to scan a few pages per day.  At the very least, the Internet needs to see these derpy Mario illustrations.

http://imgur.com/a/CBnOi

I'll host the whole thing as a zip file on FW once I'm done.

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« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2012, 02:49:55 AM »

I looked at the Nestopia .tp file format today.  It turns out they're just a headerless unsigned 8-bit PCM wave file with a 32000 Hz sampling rate.  You can do an "Import Raw Data" in Audacity (settings here) and save it as a wav file.  Hook up an audio cable from your PC to the FB keyboard and you can load it up on the real hardware.  Conversion works in the other direction, too.

That is insanely cool. I'm going to have to give this a shot. It would be fun to throw a lot of them on my iPod to make it easy.
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« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2012, 07:50:35 PM »

Okay, I finished scanning the book today.  You can browse it here: http://imgur.com/a/CBnOi or you can download the whole thing in a zip file here: http://famicomworld.com/wp-content/uploads/Lets_Play_with_Family_Basic.zip
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« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2012, 10:09:09 PM »

Wow, thanks a lot! That does it, i have got to learn to read Japanese. Anyone could point me to some sort of (free) crash course in Japanese? (more interested in being able to read it then i would be in trying to speak it.)
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« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2012, 05:36:34 AM »

Thanks UglyJoe! I have been watching your Imgur album growing Grin and now it's finished! Books like this are rare, I am happy that I have it now, and that the Famicom community can download it here!
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« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2012, 12:21:58 PM »

Hey Joe, do you know what the tapes are on the back of the book?
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« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2012, 12:34:50 PM »

I'm assuming the book came with a cassette containing the programs and/or the background graphics arrangements.  I do not have the cassette.

Is that what you were referring to?
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« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2012, 01:37:18 PM »

Yes, I have the tapes and book on the way.  Anyway I can dump the tape once it arrives?  As you've scanned the book (wow...) it makes sense.
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« Reply #24 on: May 14, 2012, 01:41:05 PM »

Anyway I can dump the tape once it arrives?
Would be nice of you Grin  You'd have to capture it to some lossless format, though (FLAC or something), otherwise the data on the tapes might be rendered unreadable.  We can host it on FW if you're interested.
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« Reply #25 on: May 14, 2012, 01:51:12 PM »

Defo interested.  They were super cheap but I've not seen them before so seemingly uncommon.
Given how much value people place on 'alternate' demo and beta versions of games I figured I should pick them up.
Not sure how I'd capture, but if I can't do it I'll send them over to you or whoever best suitable.

I've been wanting to contribute to the site for a good amount of time now with something.
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« Reply #26 on: May 14, 2012, 03:41:03 PM »

I've been wanting to contribute to the site for a good amount of time now with something.
That'll be quite Something! Really looking forward to that!
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« Reply #27 on: May 15, 2012, 02:51:02 AM »

I looked at the Nestopia .tp file format today.  It turns out they're just a headerless unsigned 8-bit PCM wave file with a 32000 Hz sampling rate.  You can do an "Import Raw Data" in Audacity (settings here) and save it as a wav file.  Hook up an audio cable from your PC to the FB keyboard and you can load it up on the real hardware.  Conversion works in the other direction, too.
So, you mean using Audacity, i can take a .wav recording of a famicom tape (such as the wrap.wav file you sent me earlier [space ship moving around and shooting]), and save it as a .tp?
I have opened the wrap.wav file with Audacity, and told it to export [from file > export]. It gives me a save dialog box, and choose to name it test.tp . Before clicking save, i clicked the 'options...' box in the corner, and set the options as header: RAW (header-less) , encoding: Unsigned 8-bit PCM ,  then clicked ok, and clicked save.
It gives me a warning: "you are about to save a LIBSNDFILE file with the name "test.tp"
Normally these files end in ".raw" , and some programs will not open files with nonstandard extensions.
Are you sure you want to save the file under this name?" , and i click yes. It brings up the Edit Metadata box, i leave everything blank, and click ok.
The file test.tp is then written, and when i attempt to load from this .tp image, it simply runs to the end of the tape with out loading anything.

Could you please explain how to convert from .wav to .tp?
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« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2012, 02:03:17 AM »

Could you please explain how to convert from .wav to .tp?

In Audacity:
  • Open the wav file.
  • Project Rate (Hz) [bottom of window]: 32000
  • File -> Export
  • Save as type: Other uncompressed files
  • Options button:
    • Header: RAW (header-less)
    • Encoding: Unsigned 8 bit PCM
  • Pick your filename and click OK through any other dialogs.

In Nestopia:
  • Before loading ROM, goto Machine -> External -> Tape Recorder -> File
  • Uncheck "Use image file naming"
  • Browse to your new tp file and hit OK
  • Load up FB rom (wrap.wav requires FB v2.1a -- will get jibberish in FB 3.0)
  • Get to the basic prompt and type LOAD and press enter
  • Go to Machine -> External -> Tape Recorder -> Play
  • Wait...
  • Type LIST or RUN
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« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2012, 02:55:16 AM »

That works!
I totally missed the project rate Hz setting at the bottom of the window!
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