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Family Computer => Famicom / Disk System => Topic started by: Bob-Bob on October 13, 2014, 08:33:07 pm

Title: I need some advice about Disk System games.
Post by: Bob-Bob on October 13, 2014, 08:33:07 pm
I'm looking to start picking up games for my Disk System, but I'm really afraid of buying them from someplace like eBay because of what happened to me previously.

JessicaWolf was someone I trusted. She took every precaution to ensure nothing would happen to the disk she sent me and one side of it still went bad in transit. If that happens with a person I trust, I can't imagine what would happen with somebody I don't even know!

Is there anything at all I can do to make sure the person selling me the game will take measures to protect it from harm, or is there just no real way to prevent disk corruption in the mail? Any sort of buying advice or recommended sellers? Is buying Disk System games a total crapshoot no matter what? How did you guys go about buying your games? Who did you buy them from? How often do games go bad on the way to their destination? Answering any of these questions would be much appreciated.  :-\
Title: Re: I need some advice about Disk System games.
Post by: kiwidaveinjapan on October 13, 2014, 09:17:31 pm
The best piece of advice I can give is to get the ability to rewrite disks yourself.
I started looking into this after getting several disks that had different software on them than what was on the label.
Now, if I buy a disk, even if it gets corrupted during transit, or has the wrong game on it, i can easily fix it.
Also, a great way to 'try before you buy' *cough*
Hope this helps.
Title: Re: I need some advice about Disk System games.
Post by: Bob-Bob on October 13, 2014, 09:45:39 pm
It would've helped if you had told me how I can rewrite disks.  :(
Title: Re: I need some advice about Disk System games.
Post by: Highwind on October 14, 2014, 01:32:15 am
I, as well, would be interested in knowing how to rewrite the disks. :)
Title: Re: I need some advice about Disk System games.
Post by: P on October 14, 2014, 01:46:35 am
There is no easy way that I know of.
I guess he is talking about fdsloadr (if you can get that to work) or fdsloader saver http://kitahei88.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-111.html.
Title: Re: I need some advice about Disk System games.
Post by: Bob-Bob on October 14, 2014, 10:30:59 am
Then I guess that brings me back to the beginning: What should I do to be safe when buying disks online?
Title: Re: I need some advice about Disk System games.
Post by: ericj on October 14, 2014, 12:12:08 pm
You can never be sure when buying disks that they will work in your console. I've had lots of people send me disks to be rewritten that worked perfectly fine for me, but not for them. Variances in how the FDS is adjusted is the usual culprit, as well as the thinning out of the pressure arm felt piece.
Title: Re: I need some advice about Disk System games.
Post by: Bob-Bob on October 14, 2014, 12:19:25 pm
Well, the FCD that Jessica sent me initially didn't work, but then suddenly started working again. However, only one side of the disk she sent me worked while the other one didn't, leading her to conclude that that side of the disk went bad. Is there any surefire way to tell if it's the disk's fault or the console's fault?
Title: Re: I need some advice about Disk System games.
Post by: maxellnormalbias on October 14, 2014, 01:07:47 pm
One strategy I think sounds good is to just buy a disk with Disk Keeper or something on it, then a bunch of Roland QuikDisks. If you write mod your disk system (or get one pre-modded) you could just burn games and not worry about shipping.

Of course maybe the system is broken, so the disk might be OK.
Title: Re: I need some advice about Disk System games.
Post by: Silius on October 14, 2014, 01:11:12 pm
Maybe you're just worrying too much? I've bought eight disk titles off ebay so far and all of them worked and played the correct game. Or maybe I've just been lucky... Anyway, for me it's only a nice collectors item, but I don't play them very often - I don't want to have loading times when playing 8bit games...
Title: Re: I need some advice about Disk System games.
Post by: UglyJoe on October 14, 2014, 01:27:07 pm
Quote from: maxellnormalbias on October 14, 2014, 01:07:47 pm
One strategy I think sounds good is to just buy a disk with Disk Keeper or something on it, then a bunch of Roland QuikDisks.


QuikDisks aren't exactly common :-[


Not sure what to tell you, OP.  I've had FDS disks shipped from across the world and not had any issues (except for a few disks that were known to be problematic when I bought them).  I'd have to side with ericj on this one -- the FDS drives are mechanical and inexact.  What works in one drive may not work in another.
Title: Re: I need some advice about Disk System games.
Post by: Raverrevolution on October 14, 2014, 01:29:30 pm
Same here, I bought many disks off of Ebay that worked.  The one time I bought a disk from someone here it didn't work.  Yeah, it is basically a crapshoot.

Also when I receive my disks I just make sure they work, store them, and then play the game on an emulator or on the Everdrive.

Speaking of which, wondering if you could somehow write disks with the Everdrive.
Title: Re: I need some advice about Disk System games.
Post by: maxellnormalbias on October 14, 2014, 01:57:14 pm
Quote from: UglyJoe on October 14, 2014, 01:27:07 pm
QuikDisks aren't exactly common :-[


You're right, but they aren't expensive either. They pop up occasionally on eBay and they're never that expensive, usually $1 or $0.50 per disk if you do the math. That's a quarter of the price of a usual FDS game.
Title: Re: I need some advice about Disk System games.
Post by: Bob-Bob on October 14, 2014, 03:34:40 pm
I'm wondering if I should eventually shell out for another Disk System in the future. Jessica repaired it herself to ensure that it would work properly. For now, I guess I'll just have to try my luck with the few games I want to collect for it.  :-\
Title: Re: I need some advice about Disk System games.
Post by: fcgamer on October 15, 2014, 07:28:12 pm
I would probably just write off the disk system as a whole, and play the games on a (shudders) emulator.

My personal experience with the disk system has been nothing but headaches and trouble.  It looks cool, and it's an experience that every Famicom gamer should experience sometime in his or her life, but it is just too unreliable to make it practical.  I suspect that the machines are the culprit most of the time though.
Title: Re: I need some advice about Disk System games.
Post by: P on October 16, 2014, 01:35:23 am
I never had problems with mine, all disks have worked so far except disks that was known to be bad by the previous owner. I guess Jessica didn't configure yours 100% correctly when she repaired it. You could try fiddling with it until most disks works.

They say that if you start rewriting disks with a wrongly configured disk system, all the disks will be wrongly written and only work on your disk system (and other systems that are equally wrongly configured).
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Post by: XC-3730C on October 20, 2014, 10:29:17 pm
@UglyJoe,

I have about 15 of these Roland QuickDisks (5 or 6 of them are Smith Corona), and never figured out how to use them as FDS disks.
Title: Re: I need some advice about Disk System games.
Post by: HyperDuel on October 21, 2014, 03:55:36 am
The nature of the floppy format is a big downfall of the FDS. 

Then again, I'm one of those guys who don't invest too much on the games and hope when I get the stuff in the mail it works.   :)
Title: Re: I need some advice about Disk System games.
Post by: Bob-Bob on October 22, 2014, 02:19:50 pm
Well, my list of games to get for the FCD is only about 27, a fraction of what's still on my list of cartridges. And I don't bother with manuals, just the case and paper folder to keep the disk safe. And some of those games are a higher priority for me than others. Right now I'm dying to play me some Zelda.  :gamer: