Famicom World

Misc. => Other Gaming => Topic started by: vealchop on June 07, 2007, 05:42:58 pm

Title: super famicom/playstation console
Post by: vealchop on June 07, 2007, 05:42:58 pm
wow!!!!!

This is probably one of the only existing prototypes left over from when nintendo and sony were in talks to make a joint CD console. You might remember nintendo re-neg'd the deal and sony went on to become the powerhouse of the gaming industry. Probably one of nintendo's few faux paus. Check it out here:

http://game-rave.com/
Title: Re: super famicom/playstation console
Post by: madman on June 07, 2007, 05:54:23 pm
I'm calling shenanigans on that.  The first thing they did was develop a separate add-on CD-ROM for the SNES/SFC that was the "original" playstation.  Not a SFC w/a built-in cd-rom.  Additionally, the likelihood of perfboard being used inside a unit that already has a case fabricated is highly unlikely.
Title: Re: super famicom/playstation console
Post by: manuel on June 07, 2007, 06:13:19 pm
I'm also not sure whether this is legit...
The other known designs are quite different from that one...

It would still be cool to own such a thing. :D
Title: Re: super famicom/playstation console
Post by: vealchop on June 07, 2007, 07:21:54 pm
I dunno, I'm sure for things like CES, TGS, etc. it may have been just a floor model that didnt actually work, just a shell and had something jimmy'd up inside to run video or a demo maybe. The site owner says it legit, I guess we'll find out more info soon.
Title: Re: super famicom/playstation console
Post by: satoshi_matrix on June 07, 2007, 07:57:27 pm
I've seen early Playstation conceptional drawings, and none looked anything like this. I'm with madman here. That's most likely a fake.
Title: Re: super famicom/playstation console
Post by: vealchop on June 08, 2007, 09:14:43 am
sticking to my guns....REAL!  :D
Title: Re: super famicom/playstation console
Post by: madman on June 08, 2007, 10:41:07 am
Also--where's the CD supposed to go?  There was never any talk of Sony making a branded SFC.  What they made was a CD-ROM add-on.  The only thing I've seen legit pictures of have been the controllers for the system.
Title: Re: super famicom/playstation console
Post by: FamicomFreak on June 08, 2007, 11:41:07 am
yeah its suppose to be an add on. i have a pic of the add on in one of my old mags
Title: Re: super famicom/playstation console
Post by: vealchop on June 08, 2007, 01:28:40 pm
I don't think it was meant to work as an actual console, just a prototype to put on the floor of a show, therefore the buttons and everything don't actually work, from the back it looks as if some kind of demo unit was probably installed and made to run on a loop or something, i.e. the system was just for show.
Title: Re: super famicom/playstation console
Post by: madman on June 08, 2007, 01:37:15 pm
Yes, but why would they have a demo with a mock up of an SFC in a new case?  That has absolutely nothing to do w/the Sony SFC CD-ROM.  There's also 3 A/V outs on the thing, that makes no sense.
Title: Re: super famicom/playstation console
Post by: vealchop on June 08, 2007, 02:01:36 pm
I don't understand what you mean?
Title: Re: super famicom/playstation console
Post by: madman on June 08, 2007, 02:29:58 pm
What part don't you understand?  The thing pictured isn't a CD-ROM of any kind.  It has a cart hole for Super Famicom games, that's all.  How can this be the SNES CD-ROM if there's no CD drive?  The original play station concept was to be a CD-ROM add on for the SNES/SFC.
Title: Re: super famicom/playstation console
Post by: manuel on June 08, 2007, 03:08:25 pm
Quote from: madman on June 08, 2007, 10:41:07 am
Also--where's the CD supposed to go?  There was never any talk of Sony making a branded SFC.  What they made was a CD-ROM add-on.  The only thing I've seen legit pictures of have been the controllers for the system.


I guess that's not true.
As far as I know Sony wanted to make a Sony branded machine that could play SFC and disc software and get all revenues from the sales. That's one of the reasons why Nintendo broke the deal.
Title: Re: super famicom/playstation console
Post by: vealchop on June 08, 2007, 08:55:33 pm
Again, now for the third time, when companies make prototypes, especially in the field of product design, they don't work like products you buy at target. They are usually hand painted, handmade pieces of plastic that are essentially just a shell. In these cases, manufacturers will make the casing, which is empty inside, and put something in there that isn't even remotely what is supposed to be there, since it's inside and the viewer will never see it. I'm guessing, again, that whatever went in there was something that just looped footage, gameplay, pics etc. to give the illusion of a working console. There is no obvious CD drive cause that box wasn't meant to put a CD in. I'm sure the designers were going for some sort of seamless or top loading functionality, hence it wasn't necessary to make clear where a tray would pop out, since the design was aiming for the case to be seamless.
Title: Re: super famicom/playstation console
Post by: madman on June 09, 2007, 09:25:47 am
Agreed, as even most pics in magazines are proto units carved from wood.  Time will tell if this is a fake or not, but I'm still calling fake based on all the evidence.
Title: Re: super famicom/playstation console
Post by: vealchop on June 09, 2007, 10:36:12 am
Also, it should be known that the owner of the website was actually voted the number 1 sony playstation fan by Sony itself (seriously, check the dudes website, it was printed in a magazine). So the dude would have a LOT to lose if he posted something bogus on his website.
Title: Re: super famicom/playstation console
Post by: kite200 on June 09, 2007, 11:28:38 am
yeah, but it seems suspicious that this appears over 10 years after the fact
Title: Re: super famicom/playstation console
Post by: manuel on June 09, 2007, 11:52:52 am
Maybe it was hidden in the SONY HQ's attic? :D
Title: Re: super famicom/playstation console
Post by: madman on June 09, 2007, 01:31:22 pm
There's a new update saying it's just meant to be Sony's branded SNES/SFC.  That sounds a little more realistic, but I'm still calling shenanigans.  If someone really had this and not some third party super secret source, there would be way more pictures and information.  Time will tell I suppose.
Title: Re: super famicom/playstation console
Post by: manuel on June 09, 2007, 02:09:33 pm
Another hint at a fake is its ugliness.
Sony's products are usually visually appealing...

Title: Re: super famicom/playstation console
Post by: Doc on June 10, 2007, 09:37:32 am
Just because it's taken years for it to come out doesn't mean that it's fake. There's an episode of a television show that was discovered after being rumored to exist for almost 20+ years...people hide things, for one reason or another.

I personally feel that it's real. It's ugly and klunky looking. Vealchop has pretty much explained it better than I could.
Title: Re: super famicom/playstation console
Post by: JC on June 15, 2007, 05:26:44 pm
http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14018
Title: Re: super famicom/playstation console
Post by: madman on June 21, 2007, 02:45:27 pm
I think this can pretty much be written off after reading the latest update on game-rave:

'm pretty darn 100% sure there will be no further investigation on this site into previously mentioned said "Play Station" as it seems, to quote Carmen Sandiego, "You're getting too close, Shamus."

The images will eventually be moved to the Proto section once I have that page re-laid out, and they will remain there for posterity's sake, and not much else. I leave the detective work to the fine folks who, like before, carried on the torch much better than I could. Putting one's site on the line for (unnecessary) peer respect is one thing; almost losing it all because said peers break into OMGWTFBBQFAXORS mode is another. Thus, a real find becomes a small foot note on the web, until one day it can (hopefully) be properly be revealed in its entirety, if even remotely.

Sony's got some damn fine ninjas...seriously.
Title: Re: super famicom/playstation console
Post by: Nintega on July 16, 2007, 12:51:05 pm
That has to be a Super Famicom CD proto. Sony made chips and crap for Nintendo back in the day.
Title: Re: super famicom/playstation console
Post by: Profeta Yoshitake on July 23, 2007, 02:30:37 pm
It looks like somebody wished to become famous
and created some kind of homebrew frankenfake
version of his or hers dreamt Play Station.  :D
Title: Re: super famicom/playstation console
Post by: vealchop on July 23, 2007, 02:40:48 pm
I still think its real, there are photographs of it at several conventions and I still feel the site owner's reputation is viable and he wouldn't risk ruin at the cost of running a sham.
Title: Re: super famicom/playstation console
Post by: madman on July 23, 2007, 08:08:40 pm
Quote from: Nintega on July 16, 2007, 12:51:05 pm
That has to be a Super Famicom CD proto. Sony made chips and crap for Nintendo back in the day.

And where exactly would one put a CD in there?