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Title: Just got a Subor D30
Post by: maxellnormalbias on December 13, 2014, 08:10:10 pm
I just got a subor D30 off of Ali Express.

I have some questions:

- Does it come with a 110V/60Hz AC adapter? I can't use 220V/50Hz because I don't live in China.

- I already have a cartridge, so I don't need one. But does it come with one?

- Is it at PAL or NTSC speed?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Just got a Subor D30
Post by: number47 on December 14, 2014, 11:24:57 am
It's PAL speed. And the power-cube is only 220V. You can use older Megadrive/Genesis adapter. Must be negative centre.
Title: Re: Just got a Subor D30
Post by: maxellnormalbias on December 14, 2014, 10:57:52 pm
Wait, it's PAL? Are you talking about the red Famicom-looking subor or this one that I got:

Title: Re: Just got a Subor D30
Post by: L___E___T on December 15, 2014, 10:17:43 am
They should both be PAL.
Title: Re: Just got a Subor D30
Post by: maxellnormalbias on December 15, 2014, 12:11:41 pm
Crap. I might have to replace the crystal then, it's a NOAC clone, I thought they were all 60Hz-speed.
Title: Re: Just got a Subor D30
Post by: number47 on December 15, 2014, 01:00:39 pm
They have universal CPU/PPU. You have to replace the oscillator and adjust one jumper to make it PAL or NTSC. If you are good friends with soldering iron, flux and solder then you can pop in a few switches, wires and an extra oscillator for NTSC speed so afterwards you can choose your mode like snap.
Title: Re: Just got a Subor D30
Post by: chowder on November 11, 2015, 02:59:53 pm
Quote from: number47 on December 15, 2014, 01:00:39 pm
They have universal CPU/PPU. You have to replace the oscillator and adjust one jumper to make it PAL or NTSC. If you are good friends with soldering iron, flux and solder then you can pop in a few switches, wires and an extra oscillator for NTSC speed so afterwards you can choose your mode like snap.


Apologies for the necropost, but does anyone happen to know where the jumper is on the Subor D30 for PAL/NTSC?  I spotted a couple of points that look like they could be bridged during a quick look, I can post pictures later.

This thing is hilariously lightweight and cheap feeling, but the picture quality is actually pretty good :)  Nice little machine, for a NOAC based Famiclone that cost $20 shipped.

Title: Re: Just got a Subor D30
Post by: chowder on November 20, 2015, 08:47:17 am
Ugh, that took a while, no free time these days!

Anyway, here are some pictures.  It's your typical gutless Chinese wonder - it weighs almost nothing, and it looks like they hacked the PCB apart with a blunt saw :crazy:  Despite this, I really like it.  The picture quality is very, very good.

(http://s22.postimg.org/q81vmy97x/IMG_20151120_161753605.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/q81vmy97x/)

(http://s22.postimg.org/6eud7zl7x/IMG_20151120_161910754.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/6eud7zl7x/)

(http://s22.postimg.org/onwjok0tp/IMG_20151120_161931634.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/onwjok0tp/)

(http://s22.postimg.org/4x4bior3h/IMG_20151120_162031709.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/4x4bior3h/)

(http://s22.postimg.org/n3vt3wht9/IMG_20151120_162055120.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/n3vt3wht9/)

I spied a couple of jumper points just to the left of the NOAC blob in the pics...  So, does anyone know if I can mod this to NTSC?

Title: Re: Just got a Subor D30
Post by: fcgamer on November 20, 2015, 01:04:50 pm
You probably can.  Ask Prince Tomato, he is the Subor expert in these parts ;)

On another note, I think they probably made an NTSC version of this clone too.
Title: Re: Just got a Subor D30
Post by: chowder on November 20, 2015, 03:05:13 pm
Thanks, I'll send him a PM if he doesn't chime in :)

I found this thread, looking at the traces it's most likely that I just need to bridge the points shown.  And change the crystal:

http://www.famicomworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=11424.0

If I get time tomorrow I might give it a try, it'll be easy to reverse if it doesn't work.

Yeah, I did think there might be NTSC versions available, but extracting accurate information from mostly clueless sellers is quite challenging ;)