Hi Guys...
anyone here have a Mark III?
I understand it runs cards, MK III and SG1000...
Any games to look out for?
What does the keyboard do with it....
I've been reading about it recently, but figured if someone here has it, i'll get a post with a bit of enthusiasm rather than just facts :-)
Wishing you a Lovely Sunday :-)
Now I don't have a Mark III but yeah I think it plays Sega Cards, SG-1000 games and cartridges. It needs a special peripheral for FM-sound unlike Japanese Master System though.
I believe the keyboard is for some SG-1000 version of BASIC. The keyboard supposedly won't work on a Master System anyway.
This is actually the one system where I'd recommend the Western equivalent over the JP version, since much of its best games only came out in Europe... Nonetheless, Kenseiden is the big one to look out for. Incredible game.
Thank you :)
Mickey Mouse is amazing, as is Alex Kidd in Miracle World, Donald Duck, Kenseiden I enjoy very much but it's not a patch on Castlevania - Vampire Master of Darkness is better.
Best game on average opinion is likely Wonderboy 3, but Wonderboy in Monster World (and Wonder Boy 1) is also awesome.
I would mind playing and completing psycho fox, haven't done so since I was around 12-13.
Also, My Hero..Wouldn't mind high scoring that....
I went for the Mark III as its 60hz out the box, I've never seen one in the flesh, but it only looks simple, but, I do get a kick out of Japanese stuff...Always have :-)
I agree that Kenseiden is no Castlevania, but then again, it doesn't try to be. It's more akin to Genpei Toumaden with the swordplay and the map system... the move variety in that game is so fun, you feel like such a badass by the end of the game being able to pull off so many acquired sword slashes.
I still don't have Master of Darkness, I want to get that someday. The Mickey Mouse games are indeed great, ESPECIALLY Land of Illusion. Ninja Gaiden is another amazing PAL-only one.
I have completed master of darkness and AK in Miracle world on original hardware in the last 4 years.
Class games :-)
Post Merge: October 25, 2015, 02:31:31 pm
Ninja Gaiden was one of the 1st games I tracked down last time I had a 'PAL' System set up.
Class game...
and to this day, I have completed Gameboy version, Famicom 1 and 2 and SMS, but never played the 3rd..(on famicom)
I have heard people call it the black sheep and others praise it...looking forward to it again now :-)
The way I see it, Ninja Ryukenden III is the best of the series from a design perspective. The subweapons got more varied and usable than ever, the graphics got better than ever, the platforming got more intricate than ever, the gimpy hitbox on Ryu's sword was fixed from NG2, and unlike NG1+2, there are no surefire quick-kills on the bosses so you have to use legit strategies for them.
That being said I still prefer the first one but I admit this is partially due to nostalgia.
I originally completed The 1st in a hot gruelling summer and I Loved it. It did take several sessions, with learning as I got further in.
I also used tactics to beat it, due to enemy respawn, but I assume this the only way of playing it..i know saying that, you can play this game with beautiful timing and it looks and feels class :-)
Quote from: Nightstar699 on October 25, 2015, 02:24:07 pm
I agree that Kenseiden is no Castlevania, but then again, it doesn't try to be. It's more akin to Genpei Toumaden with the swordplay and the map system... the move variety in that game is so fun, you feel like such a badass by the end of the game being able to pull off so many acquired sword slashes.
But what if I told you both Kenseiden and Master of Darkness were created by the same team specifically to act as a Castlevania for the system and created with that role fully in mind... :)
I have that in a Retro Gamer mag interview somewhere - I'll try and take some snaps. But I know what you mean, it has a charm all of its own and I love the mood of it.
I forgot about Ninja Gaiden, I really enjoyed that too.
Wow, really? Yes Luke I'd love to see that if you can dig it out. But I'm guessing that by "Castlevania for the system" they just basically meant hardcore-minded platformers. Because gameplay wise Kenseiden doesn't have much in common with CV, unlike Master of Darkness, which I'll admit seems to be a bit of a CV clone... though an awesome-looking one for sure.
I watched a gameplay video of Kenseiden earlier as I had never heard of the game before, it honestly got with me music on attract/intro,
Looks fine for a sega 8 bit game too...I'll look to buy that. Thank You for putting that out there for me :)
My pleasure, Dahren - for when you give it a chance, keep in mind that not every stage in that game is mandatory, but I'd HIGHLY recommend fighting each boss, since again, it really is awesome when you have so many different attacks at your disposal.
I'd even say that Kenseiden is probably my favorite game that isn't on a Nintendo console, so yeah... I kinda like it, in case you guys couldn't tell.
Can I ask..does wonderboy have flickering on the Mark III? I've only ever played PAL and it was obv chopped in 50hz and slower..i love that game and the classic sega colours...I've never played it in 60hz tho...
I know for a fact I never mastered the game, IIRC its actually quite long, I defo needed plenty of continues..
From the NTSC-U copy I used to have, I'd have to say it does not have any notable flicker that I remember, so I'd guess the JP version is the same.
Spent a good 6 hours of today reading and watching videos to do with Mark III and Japanese Master System.
I'm quite content that it would make a lovely compliment along side my famicom :)
I do think i'll get the FM add on though...
Post Merge: October 25, 2015, 07:05:32 pm
Couple of quick ones...on the Card Game, Sega Seishun Scandal My Hero, I've seen some boxed copies the colour pink and some red...is that two different versions, or is Pink Sun Faded..(edit...I managed to find this earlier http://www.smspower.org/Lists/SMSAllJ and that game falls under red card.....)
May I ask, what is a fair enough price for the original super wonder boy (not finding much out about this title) out of the games I've looked at today...
:)
I also want to get a Mark III, as well as an SG-1000 II and a SC-3000. Lately I've been obsessed with 8 bit SEGA stuff!
And by the way, the BASIC on the SC-3000/SG-1000 is more complex than Family BASIC on Famicom. BASIC on Sega has like 10x the amount of free memory, there is upper/lower case type, you can use decimal numbers, there's more math functions like sin cos tan, and you can actually draw lines, curves, and shapes with a command. There is no built-in graphics like Famicom BASIC though. But I think with Sega BASIC you can actually create your own sprites and BG tiles by coding them in.
I think owning both the western Master System and the Japanese one is ideal. Both systems have different-sized cart slots and both have pretty different libraries of games for each region! I hear that there are cartridge adapters for cross-region play, but these adapters are friggin hard to find.
I also like your Family BASIC setup in your pic. Looks very similar to my setup. I'm so glad you're enjoying it, we need more programmers on this forum! ;D :redcart:
I definitely wont move into sega basic until I grasp family basic more....I should be able to spend more time with it now I've cut out consoles, which was part of the plan too :-)
Thank you for nice words Zman :-)
I also won't touch it until I have more experience with Family BASIC.
Fun Fact: Did you know that the creator of Pokemon used to use Family BASIC in his youth before creating a game for the Famicom called Quinty?
I did not & I love things like that ;D
Quick note - unless you care about the SG1000 stuff, I would definitely suggest going for a Megadrive converter, or a Mega Everdrive which will play all Master System / MKIII titles.
MegaDrive can natively output RGB, and there is an FM Sound solution in the works as well. Rama has one for sale if you're already decided! http://www.famicomworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=11880.0
I have an MD Everdrive, but I own a model 2 Master System and a bunch of the best games for it so I dunno whether to keep those. ??? I mostly use the MS controller for playing my Atari 2600 cause I'm odd like that. :pacman:
I used to have a North American Master System back in high school and it was actually kind popular among my group of friends at the time. One time at my friend's house, I was looking around in his basement and noticed a clear-blue N64 on a box. I said "Woah! Do you have any other old game stuff?" He said yes and showed me the inside of a cabinet and at the back was a Master System. He didn't really know what it was, but said it was his dad's. It had the Light Phaser along with After Burner, Great Golf, and Great Baseball.
I told him how cool it was to have all that and asked if I could set it up on the TV where his xbox 360 was. We started playing and found out it had Hang On/Safari Hunt built-in! We played the shit out of these 2 games. Hang On only had the one course, but it actually took a few weeks of hanging out after school to finally master the game on all 3 difficulty settings. Playing Safari Hunt was also a blast. It is a much better game than Duck Hunt in every way. The game has 3 different screens, lots of variety of animals to shoot, a catchy song that plays between levels that my friend would dance to, and a balanced score system that has a perfectly smooth difficulty curve.
Great Golf wasn't as good as NES Golf. We only played it once or twice. Great Baseball is better than NES Baseball, but we played NES baseball just as much (when we were at my house). Great Baseball has great graphics, more music, smoother animation, and better control over the players. And our favorite part of the game is when you get a foul ball, it sounds like "FAAHH!!". We used to find that hilarious!
I eventually got one at a thrift store chain in Canada called Value Village. I also bought a NES there with Mario/Duck Hunt and Mario 3 for $5 and then sold it to my friend for $30 (and then I learned about selling video games... ;) ::) ) He eventually started playing NES and N64, but was mostly a Call of Duty 360 player like everybody else in high school.
My best friend/sidekick in high school also had a Master System from Value Village. It didn't work when a game was inserted in the cart slot, but worked fine with the card slot and built-in Snail Maze game. He gave it to me for free with Quartet, which is a fun game for the Sega. I was only 16 when he gave it to me, so I didn't really know what I was doing. I tried reflowing the solder on some dull points on the board, but instead somehow broke it. If I had it now, I would have just used a metal file inside the cartridge slot to shine up the metal contacts. :P
Quote from: zmaster18 on October 25, 2015, 07:25:06 pm
I hear that there are cartridge adapters for cross-region play, but these adapters are friggin hard to find.
There's several available on eBay and Aliexpress right now that will allow you to play American/European games on a Japanese system, they're not exactly hard to find any more. Adapters for the opposite (playing Japanese games on an American or European system) are non-existent because the BIOS will block out SG-1000 games and some Mark III games.
Perhaps not wise starting this when I have to be up for work in 5 hours!
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I know how you feel. Congrats on getting the Mark III!
Looks great! Always wanted one myself - that JoyPad...
That's really very nice, congratulations :)
I never got in to anything pre-Megadrive Sega wise, looks like there were some good titles though. The Master System was more popular than the NES in the UK if I remember correctly, a few of my friends had them. The re-designed model 2 was fugly, but the Mark III is definitely the best looking of the lot.
Master System got a good grip here thanks to smart advertising and marketing. We had one in the house and it was incredible.
I got my little brother The Ninja and Operation Wolf for Christmas, plus we had Asterix at one point as well and Castle of Illusion and of course it came with Alex Kidd in Miracle World.
In contrast, my little sister had a MK1 given to her by a friend some years later - though I liked the diagram on the console, I do remember thinking the MK2 looked way cooler and was much better.
Funny how you see things differently as a child, there's no comparison now.
We still had those consoles until about 8 years ago I think, as sadly there was a huge (and I mean huge) flood and everything in the basement got wrecked. Dreamcast, MS, C64, all sorts.
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Thanks guys :)
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It does also run MSX games without any too complicated conversion involved. I played a lot of MSX games in my youth and I remember that there was some info about this on an issue of the MSXFAN magazine...I think it had something to do with bootlegs from Taiwan or something that were originally MSX but then converted to Mark III and they compared the architecture and that both the MSX and the Mark III had very much in common. :octorok: :octorok: :octorok: :octorok: