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Title: Helpin about modin Nes Console to from PAL to NTSC
Post by: raziel90 on January 11, 2016, 07:03:18 am
Hello friends could you assit me for helpin me to modin one Nintendo clone system PAL to NTSC speed . Model is MT 999DX

Here is pictures of the board

(http://s24.postimg.org/onh10yqxh/DSCN0296.jpg)


(http://s12.postimg.org/88nsb3r8t/DSCN0295.jpg)

I hope you can assit me   :)  thank you soo much for the support friends
Title: Re: Helpin about modin Nes Console to from PAL to NTSC
Post by: zmaster18 on January 11, 2016, 09:30:45 am
While reading some other websites lately, I think I saw some people talking about switching the clock speed crystal to convert PAL to NTSC. The CPU and PPU chips may need to be replaced as well.
Title: Re: Helpin about modin Nes Console to from PAL to NTSC
Post by: HVC-Man on January 11, 2016, 09:41:19 am
Seeing how it's an NOAC clone, I really, really doubt it'd be possible to convert to NTSC. Your only hope is changing out a crystal and switching a jumper or two. If those aren't possible, you'll need another clone.
Title: Re: Helpin about modin Nes Console to from PAL to NTSC
Post by: P on January 11, 2016, 10:05:22 am
Doesn't NOAC has some kind of jumper setting that can be set to either NTSC or PAL?
Title: Re: Helpin about modin Nes Console to from PAL to NTSC
Post by: raziel90 on January 11, 2016, 10:09:47 am
Quote from: P on January 11, 2016, 10:05:22 am
Doesn't NOAC has some kind of jumper setting that can be set to either NTSC or PAL?


I dont see nothing written NTSC or PAL on the board
Title: Re: Helpin about modin Nes Console to from PAL to NTSC
Post by: 80sFREAK on January 11, 2016, 11:02:16 pm
Quote from: P on January 11, 2016, 10:05:22 am
Doesn't NOAC has some kind of jumper setting that can be set to either NTSC or PAL?
It might be built-in the chip feature, but not on PCB.
Title: Re: Helpin about modin Nes Console to from PAL to NTSC
Post by: jpx72 on January 12, 2016, 01:01:03 am
Ah this has been here a milion times, of course some noacs have simple switch from pal to ntsc, but you need ntsc crystal. One guy here miraculously knew where the soldering spots are and could identify them for you from the photo, but I think he disappeared from here.  (Still think that was a lucky guess)

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Title: Re: Helpin about modin Nes Console to from PAL to NTSC
Post by: chowder on January 12, 2016, 01:19:25 am
I think he just looked for solder pads that were close enough together to be bridged, it's a common way of enabling/disabling parts of circuits.

I have a Subor D30 famiclone that I still need to try the mod on.  I found some possible pads (although they're not marked in any way), and have a spare oscillator I can steal from a broken FC mobo.  Now I need time, maybe this afternoon :)
Title: Re: Helpin about modin Nes Console to from PAL to NTSC
Post by: P on January 13, 2016, 03:07:59 pm
Quote from: raziel90 on January 11, 2016, 10:09:47 am
Quote from: P on January 11, 2016, 10:05:22 am
Doesn't NOAC has some kind of jumper setting that can be set to either NTSC or PAL?


I dont see nothing written NTSC or PAL on the board

Quote from: 80sFREAK on January 11, 2016, 11:02:16 pm
Quote from: P on January 11, 2016, 10:05:22 am
Doesn't NOAC has some kind of jumper setting that can be set to either NTSC or PAL?
It might be built-in the chip feature, but not on PCB.

Yeah it's pins on the chip of course. But since this is glob-top it's hard to tell which it is.
Title: Re: Helpin about modin Nes Console to from PAL to NTSC
Post by: number47 on January 22, 2016, 06:42:29 am
You'll have to find a NTSC XTAL - 21.4772MHz.
And join solderpads. There are three options: all three, left with center or right with center.

(http://i.imgur.com/Hbuk0Zi.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Helpin about modin Nes Console to from PAL to NTSC
Post by: FAMICOM_87 on January 26, 2016, 02:56:10 pm
(http://www.emu-land.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=65916.0;attach=69628;image)
Title: Re: Helpin about modin Nes Console to from PAL to NTSC
Post by: number47 on January 29, 2016, 09:54:38 pm
That's not the same board layout.
Title: Re: Helpin about modin Nes Console to from PAL to NTSC
Post by: FAMICOM_87 on January 31, 2016, 12:05:56 pm
Quote from: number47 on January 29, 2016, 09:54:38 pm
That's not the same board layout.


yes , but it shows the available combinations :)
Title: Re: Helpin about modin Nes Console to from PAL to NTSC
Post by: chowder on February 12, 2016, 01:20:48 pm
I tried this on my Subor D30, and it worked.  Swapped the crystal and soldered the pads (which were the same layout as FAMICOM_87's pic).  Unfortunately, desoldering to test out other configurations ripped one of the pads off and now it doesn't work at all :(  I can't see any trace damage, and seeing as it they weren't originally connected anyway, I don't know why it's broken...

For anyone else trying this, I'd suggest using a conductive pen to connect the pads, they're just too small/delicate to solder accurately:

http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/circuitworks-conductive-pen-standard-tip-n73aa
Title: Re: Helpin about modin Nes Console to from PAL to NTSC
Post by: number47 on February 17, 2016, 01:10:15 am
This pen is a tricky SOB. It won't conduct electricity unless completely cured/dry.
Let it cure for about two hours before testing.
Title: Re: Helpin about modin Nes Console to from PAL to NTSC
Post by: FAMICOM_87 on January 17, 2020, 04:27:14 pm
Quote from: number47 on January 22, 2016, 06:42:29 am
You'll have to find a NTSC XTAL - 21.4772MHz.
And join solderpads. There are three options: all three, left with center or right with center.

(http://i.imgur.com/Hbuk0Zi.jpg?1)


I come a cross of this particular famiclone and 60Hz mode work on the 26.6017MHz original X-tal the picture is in color ,but fuzzy when you connect GND to  "F50R6" (the hole correspond to this sign on the far left behind the gray cable)
Those 3 pads you suggested are 5V on the left GND on right and the middle I do not know, but it do not do nothing , unfortunately when I replace the X Tal with proper NTSC one 21,47727 the picture jumps and nothing shows :(