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Family Computer => Famicom / Disk System => Topic started by: Jedi Master Baiter on February 09, 2016, 08:49:40 pm

Title: Mario in Ludum est
Post by: Jedi Master Baiter on February 09, 2016, 08:49:40 pm
I thought this would be a fun thing to do: can we list every FC game with Mario in it? Including:

Mario Games
Games which star Mario or are part of the Mario franchise



Official Cameos
Games by Nintendo (or licensed by Nintendo) that Mario appears in



Pirates
Unofficial Mario ports / unofficial pirate originals / existing games that hack Mario in



Fan Hacks
Fan hacks

Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Every Game with Mario in it?
Post by: fcgamer on February 09, 2016, 08:55:02 pm
I'll start:  Dooly Bravo Land

https://fcgamer.wordpress.com/2014/05/09/fun-with-dooly/

Korean unlicensed original game.  It has bad Mario enemies.
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Every Game with Mario in it?
Post by: Jedi Master Baiter on February 10, 2016, 10:07:48 pm
Cool, thanks. Never saw that one before.

Added some examples.
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Every Game with Mario in it?
Post by: P on February 10, 2016, 11:52:56 pm
So games that doesn't really have much to do with Mario and just threw Mario in as a main character also counts as part of the Mario franchise? Then I guess games like Wrecking Crew counts.

OK then I'll start with the most obvious ones:

Mario Games:
Donkey Kong
Donkey Kong Jr (I guess it's more than a cameo since It stars Mario as the villain and is a sequel to DK)
Mario Bros
Super Mario Bros
Super Mario Bros 2 (J)
Super Mario USA
Super Mario Bros 3
Dr Mario
Wrecking Crew
Yoshi no Tamago
Yoshi no Cookie


Official Cameos:
Tennis (Mario is referee)


Pirates:
Dianshi Mali (first I could think of, not sure if it counts though, since it's Fortran not Mario?)
Super Mario World
Kart Fighter


What about games like Wario no Mori? It's part of the Mario franchise and have Mario characters, but I'm not sure Mario is in there.
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Every Game with Mario in it?
Post by: Cheetahmen on February 11, 2016, 02:02:58 am
I'll just list off the pirate hacks/originals I can remember:

Kart Fighter
Q Boy (If you press select while the game is paused the main character turns into Mario)
Somari
Super Mario World
World Heroes 2
Ancient and Modern Heros
Mario Fighter III (Street Fighter II (Hummer Team) hack)
Street Fighter VI 16 Peoples (Mario appears in the background on one stage)
Adventure Mario (Adventure Island hack)
Mario 4 (Armadillo hack)
Mario 6 (Tiny Toon Adventures hack)
Mario 7 (The Flintstones hack)
Mario 8 (Don Doko Don 2 hack)
Mario 9 (Adventure Island 2 hack)
Mario 10 (Jackie Chan's Action Kung Fu hack)
Mario 11 (Adventure Island 3 hack)
Mario 13 (Kaiketsu Yanchamaru 2 hack)
Mario 14 (Kaiketsu Yanchamaru 3 hack)
Mario 16 (Joe & Mac hack)
Mario 17 (Chip n Dale hack)
Pizza Pop Mario (Pizza Pop hack)
Super Mario Pocker Mali (Crayon Shin-Chan hack)
Super Mali Hero Legends (Little Ninja Bros hack)
Super Mali Splash Bomb (Kero Kero Splash Bomb hack)
Super Mario Kart Rider (Top Rider hack)
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Every Game with Mario in it?
Post by: Jedi Master Baiter on February 11, 2016, 06:09:19 am
Quote from: P on February 10, 2016, 11:52:56 pm
So games that doesn't really have much to do with Mario and just threw Mario in as a main character also counts as part of the Mario franchise?

I messed that up; should've used "or." :-[
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Every Game with Mario in it?
Post by: pal52 on February 11, 2016, 06:55:41 am
pirates/hacks

Shen Feng - one of the hardest Mario games I have ever played, also Mario is naked.
Shen Feng 2 - extremely hard Mario game. Mario is still naked

Mario Towers - short and fun Mario game
KAETTEKITA MARIO BROS - disk system game
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Every Game with Mario in it?
Post by: fcgamer on February 11, 2016, 09:13:14 pm
^^^Most of those are just modern fan hacks  :'(
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Every Game with Mario in it?
Post by: Jedi Master Baiter on February 11, 2016, 10:38:24 pm
Quote from: fcgamer on February 11, 2016, 09:13:14 pm
^^^Most of those are just modern fan hacks  :'(

I'll include those also.

But that makes me wonder... are the list of games hacked with Mario greater than the games not hacked with Mario? :-\ If so, maybe we're working on the wrong list. :P

I'm on the fence with Dianshi Mali. Is that meant to be Mario or was he specifically named Fortran? ??? I mean, there's an 'F' on his hat.
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Every Game with Mario in it?
Post by: fcgamer on February 11, 2016, 10:55:57 pm
Name says it all:  Dianshi Mali, not Dianshi Fortran ;)



Quote from: Jedi QuestMaster on February 11, 2016, 10:38:24 pm
Quote from: fcgamer on February 11, 2016, 09:13:14 pm
^^^Most of those are just modern fan hacks  :'(

I'll include those also.

But that makes me wonder... are the list of games hacked with Mario greater than the games not hacked with Mario? :-\ If so, maybe we're working on the wrong list. :P

I'm on the fence with Dianshi Mali. Is that meant to be Mario or was he specifically named Fortran? ??? I mean, there's an 'F' on his hat.
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Every Game with Mario in it?
Post by: L___E___T on February 12, 2016, 12:53:58 am
We're sticking to Famicom / NES for now right?  If so then I guess I can add these to the cameo list:

- Pinch Out!
- Mike Tyson's Punch Out!
- Golf
- Golf Japan tour (FDS)
- Golf USA tour (FDS)
- Pinball


Mario's missing for NES would be a full Mario game, even though I wish it wasn't...
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Every Game with Mario in it?
Post by: P on February 12, 2016, 03:18:22 am
Yeah it's a fully licensed game isn't it. And Mario's Time Machine too. Sometimes Nintendo steps really low, licensing their characters out to crap like that.

Quote from: Jedi QuestMaster on February 11, 2016, 06:09:19 am
Quote from: P on February 10, 2016, 11:52:56 pm
So games that doesn't really have much to do with Mario and just threw Mario in as a main character also counts as part of the Mario franchise?

I messed that up; should've used "or." :-[

Ah, I see!

Quote from: Jedi QuestMaster on February 11, 2016, 10:38:24 pm
Quote from: fcgamer on February 11, 2016, 09:13:14 pm
^^^Most of those are just modern fan hacks  :'(

I'll include those also.

But that makes me wonder... are the list of games hacked with Mario greater than the games not hacked with Mario? :-\ If so, maybe we're working on the wrong list. :P

If we include every little hack that some kid did with pre-made hacking tools it's definitely more. But if we limit the list to unlicensed games that was manufactured and sold on cartridge I don't know.
If hacks that are spread over internet are to be included, I'd suggest to at least put them in their own list. There are tons of them, and more are coming all the time.

Quote from: fcgamer on February 11, 2016, 10:55:57 pm
Name says it all:  Dianshi Mali, not Dianshi Fortran ;)

Quote from: Jedi QuestMaster on February 11, 2016, 10:38:24 pm
I'm on the fence with Dianshi Mali. Is that meant to be Mario or was he specifically named Fortran? ??? I mean, there's an 'F' on his hat.


Yeah I think it's a pun on Xiao Mali (小瑪俐) which is apparently the name of the type of Taiwanese roulette used in the game. But 瑪俐 (Mali) also how Mario is sometimes written in Chinese. There is a similar game without Mario called Xiao Mali (http://bootleggames.wikia.com/wiki/Xiao_Ma_Li) written with the same characters.

Officially Mario is actually written with a third character as well 瑪俐歐 (Mǎ​lì​'ōu) or 馬里奧 (Mǎ​lǐ​'ào) according to wikipedia (but in simplified characters) but pirates seems to like Mali (瑪俐) for some reason.


BTW now when I think about it, I think Donkey Kong 3 also should probably be included, since it's part of the Donkey Kong/Mario franchise. Even though Donkey Kong is the only reoccurring character. What do everyone think?
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Every Game with Mario in it?
Post by: L___E___T on February 12, 2016, 05:02:58 am
 


I wouldn't add Donkey Kong 3 - Mario's not in it, and that would be very unfair to Stanley.  

(http://motherboard-images.vice.com/content-images/contentimage/no-id/1433775713237300.png)




There are probably other games that are part of the Mario franchise but that he's not in in any form, besides the thread is 'every [Famicom / Disk System] game with Mario in it' and he's not in the title or artwork...
Title: Re: Mario in Ludum est
Post by: Jedi Master Baiter on February 12, 2016, 06:09:52 am
Okay, I added a separate section for fan hacks.

As per Donkey Kong 3... nope, no Mario, not a Mario game in slightest sense, doesn't even have Mario in it, even though it's set in the Marioverse-- Donkeykongverse, whatever. Same with Wario's Woods. Someone should hack these. :-X

Because there are so many Mario hacks, I changed the thread title to Every Game A Mario in bad latin. :-[
Title: Re: Mario in Ludum est
Post by: P on February 12, 2016, 10:03:05 am
OK that makes things much clearer. Mario needs to appear, and not just characters from the Mario universe. No DK3 or Wario no Mori then.
Title: Re: Mario in Ludum est
Post by: chowder on February 12, 2016, 03:25:13 pm
Ai Amu A Tīchā: Sūpā Mario no Sētā

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YbANpltcm4
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Every Game with Mario in it?
Post by: Jedi Master Baiter on February 12, 2016, 09:11:06 pm
Quote from: fcgamer on February 11, 2016, 10:55:57 pm
Name says it all:  Dianshi Mali, not Dianshi Fortran ;)

What does the F on his hat stand for?

Quote from: Cheetahmen on February 11, 2016, 02:02:58 am
Street Fighter VI 16 Peoples (Mario appears in the background on one stage)

I need evidence. ;)
Title: Re: Mario in Ludum est
Post by: P on February 13, 2016, 01:45:45 am
Quote from: http://bootleggames.wikia.com/wiki/Dian_Shi_Ma_LiUnused tiles within the game reveal the text "Fortran", assumed to be the name of the strange Mario ripoff.

I'd probably still count it as an unlicensed Mario game though. He even hits a coin block.


http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/kusoge/kusoge-tvmario.htm
Looks like Xiao Mali machines often features Mario, so Mali might not be a pun after all, but having been a reference to Mario all along. Xiao means small btw (Dianshi Mali has no Xiao so that's why it's Big Mario I guess), and Dianshi means television (since it's a videogame version of the machine).
Title: Re: Mario in Ludum est
Post by: Cheetahmen on February 13, 2016, 04:02:28 am
Quote from: Jedi QuestMaster on February 12, 2016, 09:11:06 pm
Quote from: fcgamer on February 11, 2016, 10:55:57 pm
Name says it all:  Dianshi Mali, not Dianshi Fortran ;)

What does the F on his hat stand for?

Quote from: Cheetahmen on February 11, 2016, 02:02:58 am
Street Fighter VI 16 Peoples (Mario appears in the background on one stage)

I need evidence. ;)

I couldn't actually find the correct rom (the one I'm looking for seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth) but I guarantee you that a somewhat modified version of the background here (https://youtu.be/yDZvjlbnqq4?t=54s) is in the game. :'( For the record, Bowser's missing in the other version but Mario's still there.
Title: Re: Mario in Ludum est
Post by: MWK on February 13, 2016, 10:58:05 am
Yoshi's Cookie is also known as Mario 12.
Other "version" of Mario 14 is a Tiny Toon 2 hack.

Also,
Super Bros. Pocker Mali is a hack of Shin Chan: Ora to Poi Poi hack, just to be precise.
Super Mario & Sonik is a Chip & Dale 2 hack.
I don't know if anyone mentioned M.C.Mario being M.C.Kids hack.

And the following two are unconfirmed by me but they do exist,
Mario Bubble is a Bubble Bobble hack.
Mali Boss is a Hammerin' Harry hack.

Hey Cheetahmen, what about that Street Fighter/Mario Fighter 3 pirate where you can actually fight as a stretched Mario? It's hilarious ;D
Title: Re: Mario in Ludum est
Post by: Cheetahmen on February 13, 2016, 12:25:36 pm
Quote from: MWK on February 13, 2016, 10:58:05 amHey Cheetahmen, what about that Street Fighter/Mario Fighter 3 pirate where you can actually fight as a stretched Mario? It's hilarious ;D

Heh, I completely forgot about that one, same for Mari Street Fighter 56 Peoples ;D
Title: Re: Mario in Ludum est
Post by: MaxXimus on February 13, 2016, 12:36:29 pm
Here's some info on a bunch of the Mario sprite hacked games.
http://bootleggames.wikia.com/wiki/Mario_Pirate_Hacks
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Every Game with Mario in it?
Post by: Jedi Master Baiter on February 13, 2016, 08:13:01 pm
Quote from: L___E___T on February 12, 2016, 12:53:58 am
- Golf

Could you elaborate on that? ???
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Every Game with Mario in it?
Post by: fcgamer on February 13, 2016, 08:25:19 pm
I have never seen any evidence suggesting that the guy's name was actually Fortran.  I think that rumor started from this:

"Unused tiles within the game reveal the text "Fortran", assumed to be the name of the strange Mario ripoff. Fortran is one of the earliest programming languages that was "portable", or one that could be used on multiple machines."


So a few unused tiles in the game show the text Fortran, which was also a programming language.  The idea that an F on his hat "proves" his name is Fortran is more than dubious, and imo nothing more than internet hogwash.

As P pointed out, just looking at the name and the culture of those Xiao Mali machines says plenty about this game and its characters.  I actually saw a few of those machines a year or so ago, and I thought they were pretty neat, with some Mario music playing and everything.


Quote from: Jedi QuestMaster on February 12, 2016, 09:11:06 pm
Quote from: fcgamer on February 11, 2016, 10:55:57 pm
Name says it all:  Dianshi Mali, not Dianshi Fortran ;)

What does the F on his hat stand for?

Quote from: Cheetahmen on February 11, 2016, 02:02:58 am
Street Fighter VI 16 Peoples (Mario appears in the background on one stage)

I need evidence. ;)
Title: Re: Mario in Ludum est
Post by: P on February 14, 2016, 01:56:42 am
Yeah I pointed that out too. Nothing is proved, it's just a theory that he was supposed to be named Fortran. It's still an obvious Mario though.


Quote from: Jedi QuestMaster on February 13, 2016, 08:13:01 pm
Quote from: L___E___T on February 12, 2016, 12:53:58 am
- Golf

Could you elaborate on that? ???

Well Ossan has Mario's face. As I kid I always thought of player 1 and player 2 in this game as more realistically drawn Mario and Luigi.
It's kind of like Mr EAD in the F-Zero series which is also a reference to Mario in that world.
Title: Re: Mario in Ludum est
Post by: fcgamer on February 14, 2016, 03:05:23 am
Quote from: P on February 14, 2016, 01:56:42 am


Quote from: Jedi QuestMaster on February 13, 2016, 08:13:01 pm
Quote from: L___E___T on February 12, 2016, 12:53:58 am
- Golf

Could you elaborate on that? ???

Well Ossan has Mario's face. As I kid I always thought of player 1 and player 2 in this game as more realistically drawn Mario and Luigi.
It's kind of like Mr EAD in the F-Zero series which is also a reference to Mario in that world.


I found this from a Mario wiki, after doing a quick search (IIRC the Super Mario World guide had some mention of Mario being in Golf):

"In the Western version of the game, the golfer is Mario, though he is not wearing his traditional shirt and overalls.[1] However, he is not the golfer in the Japanese version as the game Captain Rainbow would retcon the golfer's identity as Ossan."

Ugh, retcons. 
Title: Re: Mario in Ludum est
Post by: Jedi Master Baiter on February 14, 2016, 07:59:05 am
Quote from: fcgamer on February 14, 2016, 03:05:23 am
"In the Western version of the game, the golfer is Mario, though he is not wearing his traditional shirt and overalls.[1] However, he is not the golfer in the Japanese version as the game Captain Rainbow would retcon the golfer's identity as Ossan."

Ugh, retcons. 


Okay, reluctantly added. I found the page and it cites Mario Mania Player's Guide without a page number. Any mention in the game's booklet?

Added 3D Hot Rally

What about Hogan's Alley?
Title: Re: Mario in Ludum est
Post by: fcgamer on February 14, 2016, 10:05:31 am
I don't think Hogan's Alley ever had Mario in it.
Title: Re: Mario in Ludum est
Post by: MasterDisk on February 14, 2016, 01:01:03 pm
Quote from: Jedi QuestMaster on February 09, 2016, 08:49:40 pm
Pirates










Originals
Ancient and Modern Heroes
Dian Shi Ma Li
Dooly Bravo Land
Kart Fighter
Q Boy
Somari
Super Mario World
World Heroes 2
































HackBased on
Adventure MarioAdventure Island
M.C. MarioM.C. Kids
Mali BossHammerin' Harry
Mario & Sonik 2Chip & Dale 2
Mario BobbleBubble Bobble
Mario Fighter IIIStreet Fighter II
Pizza Pop MarioPizza Pop
Street Fighter III 56 PeoplesStreet Fighter III
Super Bros. Pocker MaliCrayon Shin-Chan
Super Mali Hero LegendsLittle Ninja Bros
Super Mali Splash BombKero Kero Splash Bomb
Super Mario Kart RiderTop Rider
Super Mario IVArmadillo
Super Bros. 6Tiny Toon Adventures
Super Mario VII (Grand Dad)The Flintstones
Super Bros. 8Don Doko Don 2
Super Bros. 9Adventure Island 2
Super Bros. 10Jackie Chan's Action Kung Fu
Super Bros. 11Adventure Island 3
Super Mario Bros. 13Saiyuki World 2
Super Mario Bros. 14Kaiketsu Yanchamaru 3
Mario Bros. 14Tiny Toon Adventures 2
Mario Bros. 15Doki Doki Yuenchi
Mario 16Joe & Mac
Super Bros. 16Kaiketsu Yanchamaru 2
Mario 17Chip 'n' Dale


Fan Hacks
Fan hacks

  • Atlantis no Nazo -> Mario's Treasure Hunt

(...)
  • Spy vs Spy -> Spy vs Spy Mario Edition



I redid the pirate part as a table, it was too condensed and unreadable as a list. I chose to put the name of the hack first then the name of the original game. I also separated the numbered hacks to non-numbered to make it readable (since the numbered hacks do not use "Super Mario X" format for their name).
And imo listing fan hacks is a waste of time because there's an infinity and anyone could make one in one hour and suggest it there.

I also fixed some mistakes & added a few ;)
Title: Re: Mario in Ludum est
Post by: P on February 14, 2016, 02:57:14 pm
Quote from: fcgamer on February 14, 2016, 03:05:23 am
Quote from: P on February 14, 2016, 01:56:42 am


Quote from: Jedi QuestMaster on February 13, 2016, 08:13:01 pm
Quote from: L___E___T on February 12, 2016, 12:53:58 am
- Golf

Could you elaborate on that? ???

Well Ossan has Mario's face. As I kid I always thought of player 1 and player 2 in this game as more realistically drawn Mario and Luigi.
It's kind of like Mr EAD in the F-Zero series which is also a reference to Mario in that world.


I found this from a Mario wiki, after doing a quick search (IIRC the Super Mario World guide had some mention of Mario being in Golf):

"In the Western version of the game, the golfer is Mario, though he is not wearing his traditional shirt and overalls.[1] However, he is not the golfer in the Japanese version as the game Captain Rainbow would retcon the golfer's identity as Ossan."

Ugh, retcons. 


They are lying, Ossan is in all versions of the game, and has Mario's face.
Title: Re: Mario in Ludum est
Post by: Jedi Master Baiter on February 14, 2016, 03:27:11 pm
Quote from: fcgamer on February 14, 2016, 10:05:31 am
I don't think Hogan's Alley ever had Mario in it.

What are you talking about? That's clearly Mario right there:

(http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr343/JediQuestMaster/386_zpsjxa72d4o.png)

Come to think of it, something's not right here...

Quote from: MasterDisk on February 14, 2016, 01:01:03 pm
Quote from: Jedi QuestMaster on February 09, 2016, 08:49:40 pm
Pirates










Originals
Ancient and Modern Heroes
Dian Shi Ma Li
Dooly Bravo Land
Kart Fighter
Q Boy
Somari
Super Mario World
World Heroes 2
































HackBased on
Adventure MarioAdventure Island
M.C. MarioM.C. Kids
Mali BossHammerin' Harry
Mario & Sonik 2Chip & Dale 2
Mario BobbleBubble Bobble
Mario Fighter IIIStreet Fighter II
Pizza Pop MarioPizza Pop
Street Fighter III 56 PeoplesStreet Fighter III
Super Bros. Pocker MaliCrayon Shin-Chan
Super Mali Hero LegendsLittle Ninja Bros
Super Mali Splash BombKero Kero Splash Bomb
Super Mario Kart RiderTop Rider
Super Mario IVArmadillo
Super Bros. 6Tiny Toon Adventures
Super Mario VII (Grand Dad)The Flintstones
Super Bros. 8Don Doko Don 2
Super Bros. 9Adventure Island 2
Super Bros. 10Jackie Chan's Action Kung Fu
Super Bros. 11Adventure Island 3
Super Mario Bros. 13Saiyuki World 2
Super Mario Bros. 14Kaiketsu Yanchamaru 3
Mario Bros. 14Tiny Toon Adventures 2
Mario Bros. 15Doki Doki Yuenchi
Mario 16Joe & Mac
Super Bros. 16Kaiketsu Yanchamaru 2
Mario 17Chip 'n' Dale


Fan Hacks
Fan hacks

  • Atlantis no Nazo -> Mario's Treasure Hunt

(...)
  • Spy vs Spy -> Spy vs Spy Mario Edition



I redid the pirate part as a table, it was too condensed and unreadable as a list. I chose to put the name of the hack first then the name of the original game. I also separated the numbered hacks to non-numbered to make it readable (since the numbered hacks do not use "Super Mario X" format for their name).
And imo listing fan hacks is a waste of time because there's an infinity and anyone could make one in one hour and suggest it there.

I also fixed some mistakes & added a few ;)


Great work! ;D

But I've changed the whole point of this thread to document every instance of Mario in every game, that's why I included the based on games first, so It'd be easier for me to go through the list. And for any games that don't have a Mario hack, we're going to make one! :gamer:

It's also a good way for people to find interesting Mario romhacks. ;D I didn't know about the Bomberman one either. ;D This is so much fun.

Anyone wanna help me hack some games? :bub:
Title: Re: Mario in Ludum est
Post by: Pittydude131313 on March 23, 2016, 03:08:23 pm
Hi any help with this machine I have would be greatly appreciated.  This seemed like the place to find information.
Title: Re: Mario in Ludum est
Post by: DiskMan on March 24, 2016, 11:11:58 am
How about Family Basic?   :D :mario:
Title: Re: Mario in Ludum est
Post by: MaxXimus on March 24, 2016, 11:45:16 am
Quote from: Pittydude131313 on March 23, 2016, 03:08:23 pm
Hi any help with this machine I have would be greatly appreciated.  This seemed like the place to find information.


Very cool machine.
Title: Re: Mario in Ludum est
Post by: Jedi Master Baiter on March 27, 2016, 08:35:57 pm
Is that Xiao Mali?

Edit: of course it is!
Title: Re: Mario in Ludum est
Post by: Pittydude131313 on March 28, 2016, 07:27:15 am
If Im miss speaking I apologize that was what my research turned up, but Im happy to hear any input.
Title: Re: Mario in Ludum est
Post by: P on March 29, 2016, 06:45:14 am
Heh I didn't know Mario was in Hogan's Alley. It's the same kind of Mario as Ossan and Mr Ead etc. It's not clear if it's actually him or not, but it's a clear reference to him so I'd count them.
I love these little jokes of Nintendo's.

Quote from: DiskMan on March 24, 2016, 11:11:58 am
How about Family Basic?   :D :mario:

Of course! How could I forget.