Hello fellows.
Did anyone of you guys heared about a game called "Bomberman 97" for Famicom? Supposedly it is an unlicensed copy of Super Bomberman or similar (in a similar manner to the downgraded SMW). I have this game in posession although not in physical posession (it is not in my house), so I can unfortunately not provide you with any screenshots or such.
I have never heared about this game but some years ago I bought it from a Korean guy in Sweden who sold me a whole bunch of games, and this was in a multicart if my memory serves me correctly.
I might have a picture of the cartridge but maybe it is already dumped? Please let me know if you have heared about this game. Thanks. :mspacman:
Edit: Here is a picture of the label. Apparently it was called "Bomber King 97" and nothing else. I am not sure, but it was not released by any of the more famous companies. J.Y or N.T or such (I am not an expert of these companies but seems it seem to be "fairly" old, it should at least have not been released by Waixing (not that I can recall). Maybe the Lion King game might be a clue?
Also, it is Not the official Bomber King released by Hudson Soft. This is a unlicensed game (I only played it maybe one time to test if it was working and it seemingly remember me of the SFC\SNES version of Super Bomberman 3 or 4 or something similar (those games with all the animal upgrades and such. I am not that into Bomberman).
(http://i67.tinypic.com/23lcxoz.jpg)
Huh, the only unlicenced Bomberman clone I remember was called (IIRC) Bomberman 2002 by Nice Code. Presuming it's not that given the 1997 release date, I'd be interested to see what it actually is at some point ;)
That's interesting. I've never heard of that 2002 version. Was it made by Russians? My copy if I remember correctly was more... In lack of a better word "unpolished". I remember the graphics was not that colorful although I might be mistaken. The first level was more of the greyish scale of color and looked a bit more"classic" although it was certainly nota hack but really a proper version of an unlicensed game. :bub:
I will eventually sell it, but the person buying it has to promise of uploading gameplay footage of it. ;D
I've never heard of it before, but if it is what you claim it to be, I would be interested in purchasing it from you and writing a write-up about it on my blog.
Right now it is on-hold by a certain Dutchmen which name starts with a P ;) But I have asked my friend who is posessing (storing) the game for me for a short video. It might take a while to make him actually do it, but it will be done at least within a week (hopefully). Anyways, I hope that this get dumped so that everyone can get a chance of playing it, and if that certain Dutch Gentleman doesn't want it, then you will be the next in line. But a shorter video will for sure be coming up within a near future.
Quote from: Retrospectives on June 03, 2016, 10:33:39 amBut I have asked my friend who is posessing (storing) the game for me for a short video. It might take a while to make him actually do it, but it will be done at least within a week (hopefully).
I look forward to it, feel free to post a link here once it's up ;D
Not that I'm really interested in owning it but if it was an interesting piece I'd send it to get it dumped~
Sure thing! That's was my intention since I don't have the game physically in my hands this would be the best I can do right now.
Thanks MasterDisk, You got a dumping source in Europe? We could dump it over here but then it had to be going back and forth and that would honestly be kind of a hassle, but well...Since I already put it up for offer then I suppose that it's pretty much up to the new owner to decide. A digial preservation would be valuable though (for the sake for preservation).
CaH4e3 would be a good bet, since he is in russia, I'd just send it in registered airmail as a "safety" but for the two time I sent stuff to him it always went fine!
Okay. Let us wait and see what P****K has to say. fcgamer showed an interest as well (as stated above) but hopefully it would be able to work something out. I just want to make clear that I do not have the particular copy in my hands and that is why it is a bit of a hassle. But if that guy in Russia can dump it, then it certainly sounds great.
Oh he is a good friend of mine. If he does get it, I'll let him know my interest should he decide to sell later on. :)
Sure thing. I kind of suspected that you knew each others quite well hehe, but yeah. I will talk to him and see what he has to say about it. :)
Hey folks, this is indeed a "brand new" old game, and it has been dumped by me and NRS over at nesdev. He kindly fixed a couple of bugs in the game as well so that it is now playable until the very end.
(https://i.imgur.com/t0wLe0Q.png)
This is a bit of an exciting moment as a "Super Game" rom hasn't been newly released in a long time. It's not a terrible game, either.
Enjoy :) (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fbzH87gJsYMtErwm5OTOhJKfnzk2UA9O/view?usp=sharing)
PS: This came from the exact cart that started this thread. The cart is available for trade.
Edit: for preservation purposes, here is the link to the original ROM (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZDOifVCd9foqouX905PCDahj8n2sfS4u/view?usp=sharing) without bomberboy extracted
Quote from: famiac on August 31, 2018, 08:42:13 pm
Hey folks, this is indeed a "brand new" old game, and it has been dumped by me and NRS over at nesdev. He kindly fixed a couple of bugs in the game as well so that it is now playable until the very end.
(https://i.imgur.com/t0wLe0Q.png)
This is a bit of an exciting moment as a "Super Game" rom hasn't been newly released in a long time. It's not a terrible game, either.
Enjoy :) (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fbzH87gJsYMtErwm5OTOhJKfnzk2UA9O/view?usp=sharing)
PS: This came from the exact cart that started this thread. The cart is available for trade.
Hi,
I'd be interested in that cart. I'll send you a PM.
Thanks for making it publically available. Is good to have as a preservation. I never really played the game that much but I am glad NRS could debug it and "fix" it. Got myself a real good trade from you as well. ;) Good job, thanks!
Yes good job and thank you! I will have to play it later!
No worries :)
Speaking of bugfixes...
Every single Super Game game doesn't work on the Famicom's Expansion Controller, because the controller doesn't read from a loop.
Might I ask you guys if you can do a revision in the bugfixed versions of the game ?
Quote from: MrNorbertbecause the controller doesn't read from a loop.
I have no idea what that means.
As for the request itself, it's not exactly a bugfix, more like adding a feature that the games did not have before. You might as well ask me to improve the graphics or enhance the sound.
Quote from: NewRisingSun on September 03, 2018, 08:56:15 am
Quote from: MrNorbertbecause the controller doesn't read from a loop.
I have no idea what that means.
He means that the FC EXT port isn't recognizing the game and therefore he cannot use the external controller. Same goes for many other things that were not produced directly for official Famicom but rather Famiclones, such as multicart menus and such thing that many doesn't recognize the external port of the original Famicom.
No idea if this support external pinout of some Famiclones but if it does then is because the Famiclone EXT port is wired up differently (which is the case in most famiclones vs original Famicom). With that said, I wouldn't bother debug one game just to get access to external controller but rather is better building a transformer adapter, if even that would help.
I think many (most?) Famiclones used Atari-style controller ports.
Most licensed NES (i.e. Western) games did not recognize a Famicom-style expansion port controller, naturally. But some (A Boy and His Blob) did not even add that recognition to their Japanese release, which must have frustrated Japanese players quite a bit.
Actually the vast majority of earlier Famiclone systems that did not have hardwired controllers used the exact controller ports as the original Famicom 15 pin ext port. Of course with different pin assignment. Later Famiclones, if we talk after around year 2000 like the Neo Fami here in Japan using the Atari type of ports. :D
Yeah, i don't think the game is getting any "official updates." The original "fix" was done so gamers can actually see the ending and experience the content that was already programmed by the creators.
Of course, other ROM hackers are free to do whatever they want. I don't care.
Also, the download post was recently updated with the original rom for the multicart
I am not sure if it was mentioned elsewhere, but the particular version of The Lion King on that 2-in-1 multicart has an additional bug not found in the original single-cartridge release: if you need too much time to defeat the first boss, the game never proceeds to the second level once you have defeated him. Whoever put that multicart together actually managed to insert an additional bug that was not there before. Just try it for yourself.
The [f Bugfixes] version of the multicart ROM image therefore not only fixes Bomber Boy's bugs as described in Notes.txt, but also that additional bug in The Lion King.
Thanks for noticing the bug and that you made something about it. Most impressive work for me was not the debug though, but the mapper hack itself. 8) Mad skills ahaha.
Incredibly weird backport of Bomberman '94. That chasing AI the enemies all have is the stuff of nightmares. :o
Whoa, what? A new FC bootleg from the past and not some crappy modern thing? Didn't think another one would ever be found. Glad this got dumped! Makes you wonder how many other multicart-only things could still be out there.