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Family Computer => Technical & Repair Assistance => Topic started by: gamer888 on March 12, 2018, 11:18:13 am

Title: RF and LCD TVs
Post by: gamer888 on March 12, 2018, 11:18:13 am
I might get a Famicom (the first one, with the controller attached) and a Sega Mark III

Both use RF but I know so little about it. Do japanese systems work on a LCD TV (purchased I believe in 2009).

Not sure whether it is relevant but I live in Europe and my TV was bought in Europe. I can play japanese and US systems fine on it using scart RGBm component, RCA...but RF????
Title: Re: RF and LCD TVs
Post by: famiac on March 12, 2018, 12:24:23 pm
Might as well mod your famicom. The frequency band used in Japan may differ from your country's and newer tvs tend not to have analog tuners built-in
Title: Re: RF and LCD TVs
Post by: FAMICOM_87 on March 12, 2018, 02:18:45 pm
no problem modern TVs are multi-standard  :redcart: 8)
Title: Re: RF and LCD TVs
Post by: gamer888 on March 12, 2018, 02:56:45 pm
I heard so many different answers..some say japanese RF is by no means compatible with LCD screens..others say it is urrgghh....any personnal experience???
Title: Re: RF and LCD TVs
Post by: FAMICOM_87 on March 12, 2018, 03:09:45 pm
all new TVs are compatible with everything :)
even older CRT are from middle 90's and early 2000's
Title: Re: RF and LCD TVs
Post by: gamer888 on March 12, 2018, 03:10:33 pm
hehe thanks!
Title: Re: RF and LCD TVs
Post by: FAMICOM_87 on March 12, 2018, 03:22:19 pm
Quote from: gamer888 on March 12, 2018, 03:10:33 pm
hehe thanks!


No problem :) analog tuners are still present in the modern TV sets :)
Title: Re: RF and LCD TVs
Post by: Nesmaniac on March 16, 2018, 09:49:05 am
RF is fine & I got it working properly on 3 different televisions 2 lcd's & a CRT with VCR used as a pasthru to get channel 95-96. The thing I've learned is to use a good shielded Subwoofer  Audio cable which I use a short 3' one this makes or breaks the image quality. I've tried short regular run of the mill composite cables in interference makes it unplayable. I've not tried a longer subwoofer grounded cable yet since I don't have one but if you don't switch out controller with NES length the only option of playing the famicom on a large screen is to be able to move it close to where you sit. This is where it would be good to know if a longer good shielded cable would work. Below is a chart of famicom serial numbers and what channels the versions work on on best. I've also found that early units won't play newer multicarts like the 150 in 1 from aliexpress but only the very early systems as asterisk in chart shows ones that I have that won't work them. I AV modded a early famicom but to be honest RF is plenty good. Here's some pics. Hope this helps others who are thinking about getting into famicom gaming because I've spent a lot time and money figuring this stuff out.

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Title: Re: RF and LCD TVs
Post by: gamer888 on March 16, 2018, 10:22:17 am
wooow thanks for all of that!

Any experience with other system such as mark III or PC Engine??
Title: Re: RF and LCD TVs
Post by: Nesmaniac on March 17, 2018, 05:15:47 pm
Quote from: gamer888 on March 16, 2018, 10:22:17 am
wooow thanks for all of that!

Any experience with other system such as mark III or PC Engine??


I've never owned those. I do have turbografix 16 & it's easy to run AV pins to the back & simply plug them into the little pin for composite video but I done that back before realizing the RF-F adapters existed. Those little adapters and good quality cables will make RF really shine I've come to realize on pretty much any RF game system I've tried.
Title: Re: RF and LCD TVs
Post by: gamer888 on March 18, 2018, 06:56:47 am
I have made a quick google search for RF-F adapters but I had a bunch of different devices.

Could you send a link to see how they look like exactly???
Title: Re: RF and LCD TVs
Post by: Nesmaniac on April 03, 2018, 08:08:05 am
https://www.amazon.com/RiteAV-Female-F-Type-Coax-Adapter/dp/B000V1O1LM/ref=pd_sbs_63_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B000V1O1LM&pd_rd_r=ZX6Y3438E9X3KMJAJEA0&pd_rd_w=FtvTh&pd_rd_wg=O1fwn&psc=1&refRID=ZX6Y3438E9X3KMJAJEA0

Here's amazon link to them. I recommend buying a lot of 6 or 10 of them because you can get them for like $6-10 that way and they come in handy with all old game systems. Also, buy a good thick shielded grounded Audio cable (like a subwoofer cable) while you are at it and if you can get buy with 3 feet do it shorter the better. I've not tried 6' ones yet but for my famicom player I use NES controller length wire I switched out & 3' cable. Picture on LCD is great like that.