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Family Computer => Technical & Repair Assistance => Topic started by: pxlbluejay on July 27, 2019, 12:17:22 am

Title: Famicom rf switch
Post by: pxlbluejay on July 27, 2019, 12:17:22 am
The top of my Famicom's original rf switch is completely missing. The pin that's supposed to be sticking out? Nup. Not there. I can see a tiny hole in the white stuff that's supposed to be surrounding the pin, but I guess that doesn't help... I've heard that users who wanted to use different, you know, plugs that go into your tv other than the bare cable,they were expected to strip the cables themselves. Will stripping mine result in a nice, new pin sticking out, or do you think nothing will come out until there is no cable left? What should I do?
Title: Re: Famicom rf switch
Post by: FAMICOM_87 on July 27, 2019, 01:28:23 pm
some pictures may help  ::)
Title: Re: Famicom rf switch
Post by: pxlbluejay on July 27, 2019, 06:48:26 pm
Sure!
But I can't seem to figure out how to post a pic here on a smartphone... It'll take me a few days to get back to where I left my laptop.
Title: Re: Famicom rf switch
Post by: conrat4567 on July 28, 2019, 02:45:01 pm
Do you mean the actual port for the cable or the switch that switches RF channels? If its the port then you may be able to replace it with an RCA module but I would have to open mine to double check. If its the channel switch then I'm sure you can replace the plastic nub.
Title: Re: Famicom rf switch
Post by: pxlbluejay on July 29, 2019, 01:55:38 am
Oh
it's the plug and the antenna pin that goes into the tv.
Title: Re: Famicom rf switch
Post by: conrat4567 on July 29, 2019, 02:39:29 am
So the green circled part of the image attached? If so, with a bit of soldering you can probably fit another one by finding a replacement but I would suggest getting it modded to output AV as this produces a much nicer image.
Title: Re: Famicom rf switch
Post by: pxlbluejay on July 31, 2019, 05:50:24 pm
Actually, no. Gimme a few minutes and I'll  post a pic.

Post Merge: August 01, 2019, 06:36:29 am

There.
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Title: Re: Famicom rf switch
Post by: Great Hierophant on August 01, 2019, 06:10:09 pm
Strip it down past the white part about 1/4", then you should see the solid wire. You'll need to put a coax adapter on it.  Use the webby wire around the plastic part as your ground. 
Title: Re: Famicom rf switch
Post by: pxlbluejay on August 01, 2019, 07:18:49 pm
Sure. Thanx a lot!
Title: Re: Famicom rf switch
Post by: conrat4567 on August 02, 2019, 12:19:38 am
Wow never seen that box before lol. I assume its similar to how the atari box works? Looks overkill though lol
Title: Re: Famicom rf switch
Post by: UglyJoe on August 02, 2019, 04:50:25 am
You're really best off grabbing an NES rf adapter (or similar).  Those original FC ones are all sorts of strange ;D
Title: Re: Famicom rf switch
Post by: Great Hierophant on August 02, 2019, 06:33:27 am
The Famicom RF box makes a lot more sense once you understand how TVs were wired in Japan at that time.  Many Japanese TVs had a screw and bracket connector.   You used stripped coax cable, fish hooked the solid-core wire around the screw and laid the bracket over the ground mesh wires and tightened both connections.  This connection is otherwise identical to our screw-type coaxial connectors (75 ohm impedance).  There is a screw and bracket connector on the RF Famicom box to switch between the Famicom and another video source like the cable box or a VCR. 

This being the early 1980s, many Japanese TVs would be the older type that only accepted twin-screw TV antenna leads for the VHF antennas ("rabbit ears") and another set of screws for a UHF antenna ("the big circle").  These antennas connected to the TV with twin-leads 300 Ohm impedance.  The Famicom RF box has a pair of screws for this type of input for a VHF antenna. 

Inside the Famicom RF box you should find a balun, an iron ring with wire wrapped around it.  The balun allows the twin lead to be used with coaxial connectors.
Title: Re: Famicom rf switch
Post by: conrat4567 on August 02, 2019, 09:48:14 am
Interesting. Still lots I don't know lol UK was always simple growing up. RCA all the way, well that and using the ariel port on my TV for my PS1 back in the day
Title: Re: Famicom rf switch
Post by: pxlbluejay on August 06, 2019, 09:43:17 pm
I'm currently trying to strip it with a wine opener(the knife part) and boy, the thing is stiff...

Post Merge: August 07, 2019, 07:51:01 am

I finally got it out!
Now time for more sawing to get more of the wire out!
Shouldn't take more than an hour! ;D