Famicom World

Famicom World => Updates and Suggestions => Topic started by: Milky B on November 05, 2007, 11:17:30 am

Title: Database of FAMICOM Manuals
Post by: Milky B on November 05, 2007, 11:17:30 am
I had an idea that I thought I'd share with you all.  I think you could try to incorporate it into Famicom World.

Well I was just thinking how a lot of companies that make electronic audio, video and music equipment often have manuals for all the equipment they've ever made, going back like at least 25 years, available on their website for download.  I was thinking it would be great if software companies had this, because, as we all know the manuals always get lost and it would be great to look at the old manuals.  also it would be really sweet to look at the japanese famicom manuals.  so, I don't think that any software companies are going to actually do this so I think this is an area where fan sites really have to take over.

Creating a famicom manual database would be a huge task but the value of such a service would be huge.  Scanning each manual would and putting the pages in a .pdf would be the best and most professional method but even a plain text database would be extrememely useful.

well... what'd'ya think????
Title: Re: Database of FAMICOM Manuals
Post by: manuel on November 05, 2007, 11:48:29 am
If there weren't copyright issues this would be a great idea, but I don't think it's possible. FW would possibly get sued by several companies. :-\
Title: Re: Database of FAMICOM Manuals
Post by: Slushie on November 05, 2007, 06:38:40 pm
Quote from: manuel on November 05, 2007, 11:48:29 am
If there weren't copyright issues this would be a great idea


Yeah, that always seems to be a problem with having Manuals Online, certain copyright issues, and some companies are fine with it, while others get upset for some reason and take action.

It really bugs me, because if a company isn't willing to do so, why not let their fans spend there time, energy, and money doing so if they want, it won't cost them anything, if anything it would help them out, buy giving free support to their customers.
Title: Re: Database of FAMICOM Manuals
Post by: JC on November 05, 2007, 08:03:33 pm
As far as I understand there are no copyright problems with doing this. FW is nonprofit, and as such could use US Code that allows distribution of information (i.e., manuals) for educational purposes. Plus, the companies aren't making money from the manuals anymore, so there would be no loss of profit to the company. The reason I hesitate to do this is because it takes a lot of time and most of us wouldn't be able to read the manuals anyway.
Title: Re: Database of FAMICOM Manuals
Post by: manuel on November 06, 2007, 09:30:28 am
I could read them.  :P ;D

But even if you can't read them, many manuals have very nice and interesting illustrations.
Title: Re: Database of FAMICOM Manuals
Post by: UglyJoe on November 06, 2007, 09:37:01 am
It would be nice, but it could incur a large bandwidth bill. 
Title: Re: Database of FAMICOM Manuals
Post by: manuel on November 06, 2007, 11:19:48 am
I don't know anything about bandwidth... Is it very expensive? Is "unlimited bandwidth" affordable?
I'm just curious,  how much traffic does FW (with forums) generate per month? Does anybody know that? (question goes mainly towards JC and FamicomJL)

If you had manuals on the site, lots of people from other places would of course download them. From time to time there would be leechers who download the whole manuals folder just for the sake of having it all on the HDD.  ;)
Title: Re: Database of FAMICOM Manuals
Post by: JewWario on November 06, 2007, 11:27:29 am
Well, I don't see any reason why we couldn't do this. The NES Files (LINKY HERE (http://www.nesfiles.com/games/)) carries manuals on their site... it'd be the same, just in Japanese. (I can read 'em too)  ;)

We would, however, have to agree on a size format. Their files are fairly small and with decent quality. I, for one, have quite a few manuals for the Famicom and Famicom Disk that I can scan and contribute. It won't take THAT long. I've done scanlations in the past, and I'd bet that it wouldn't take even a fraction of THAT (man, those were some long days). ;D

It would be a great help to those of us who purchase loose games and would like the manual in some form or other. I vote yes.
Title: Re: Database of FAMICOM Manuals
Post by: Slushie on November 06, 2007, 01:58:56 pm
Quote from: manuel on November 06, 2007, 11:19:48 am
I don't know anything about bandwidth... Is it very expensive? Is "unlimited bandwidth" affordable?


It really varies from place to place, but it's pretty much always a bad decision to go with a company that offers "unlimited bandwidth" as there is no such thing, and they'll always cut you off if you start to use too much, always best to go with a company that says what they give. And it really varies from company to company on price, one may give 20gigs bandwidth for $5 a month, and another 100gigs bandwidth for $5. Although the 20gig company would most likely be more reliable.

Anyway, if there wouldn't be any legal problems, I think it would be a great idea. There are sites to get manuals for other systems, but not really any place to get a large selection of Famicom Manuals, and if some get translated, even better. Would also get more people to FW.

If JC and JL want to do this I'll be fine with upping their bandwidth/space limit. And if they start to need a very large amount, I could always rent a VPS or a shared server somewhere that could be used to just store the manuals.
Title: Re: Database of FAMICOM Manuals
Post by: JewWario on November 06, 2007, 09:05:16 pm
Quote from: Slushie on November 06, 2007, 01:58:56 pm
If JC and JL want to do this I'll be fine with upping their bandwidth/space limit. And if they start to need a very large amount, I could always rent a VPS or a shared server somewhere that could be used to just store the manuals.

You're awesome.

Let me look around at what NES manuals have for their average size and I'll see if I can get one or two scanned in by the weekend for demo purposes.
Title: Re: Database of FAMICOM Manuals
Post by: JC on November 09, 2007, 09:50:27 pm
I wouldn't mind seeing this happen, only I don't have any time to do anything more than upload stuff to the site. Someone else would have to scan (or collect scans) and convert (or whatever) the manuals.
Title: Re: Database of FAMICOM Manuals
Post by: MaxXimus on May 27, 2008, 08:13:22 am
I just had a really great idea. :P I don't know who would want to do it though as it can ruin your box, but my idea was to unfold the entire box (including where it is glued) and take a scan of the box like that, so others can go to staples and make a printout on cardboard paper to make their own boxes. :P
Title: Re: Database of FAMICOM Manuals
Post by: 133MHz on May 27, 2008, 09:50:27 am
And somebody with mad Photoshop skillz could fix all the blemishes and restore the like-new look digitally.
Title: Re: Database of FAMICOM Manuals
Post by: manuel on May 29, 2008, 07:19:05 pm
Basically that's a nice idea, but as you said, I wouldn't want to do it, because I'd fear ruining the precious box. :-[
But isn't it possible to just scan all 6 sides of the box and add them together in photoshop?
Title: Re: Database of FAMICOM Manuals
Post by: UglyJoe on May 29, 2008, 07:33:32 pm
If you unfold the top and bottom, you can flatten the box.  Scan both sides, and you've got it all.
Title: Re: Database of FAMICOM Manuals
Post by: 133MHz on May 29, 2008, 07:54:34 pm
Yeah, when done right there's no risk of damage to the box. You'd have to avoid folding it too much.
Title: Re: Database of FAMICOM Manuals
Post by: manuel on May 29, 2008, 09:08:16 pm
That's an easy solution, too.  :-[
Title: Re: Database of FAMICOM Manuals
Post by: corisco on October 03, 2008, 07:24:18 pm
I can help with some games from my collection, but I don't have time enough too work too much on it :-[

here's the Recca Summer Festival scans

http://www.filesavr.com/famireccaartscans
Title: Re: Database of FAMICOM Manuals
Post by: L___E___T on January 17, 2009, 07:11:04 am
I'm happy to help with fixing up the blemishes etc as and when I have time.  I don't mind doing that, I had to do it at work when we put a game on PSN and it wasn't that bad so long as the manuals are scanned right. 

You have to scan just below the printing dot matrix resolution so you don't get all thos dots which are hard to clear up.  Does that make sense?

This is a great idea for the exclusive disk writer games...
Title: Re: Database of FAMICOM Manuals
Post by: skyrunner14 on February 14, 2009, 05:54:14 pm
I already have a little something I'd be willing to scan... the hint guide that game with Final Fantasy 1+2! Plus the manual!  ;D
Title: Re: Database of FAMICOM Manuals
Post by: nintendodork on February 14, 2009, 08:49:06 pm
The only manuals I have are DDP, SMB2j, Volleyball, Metroid, and Professional Mahjong Goku
I can scan any of them if you want

Quote from: corisco on October 03, 2008, 07:24:18 pm
I can help with some games from my collection, but I don't have time enough too work too much on it :-[

here's the Recca Summer Festival scans

http://www.filesavr.com/famireccaartscans
Do you have CIB Recca or something??  If you do, I envy you :P
Title: Re: Database of FAMICOM Manuals
Post by: L___E___T on April 05, 2009, 07:57:35 am
doh, Recca manual is gone..
Title: Re: Database of FAMICOM Manuals
Post by: corisco on July 07, 2009, 11:28:49 pm
It's here (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XJSKALQN) . Hope you enjoy.

Quote from: nintendodork on February 14, 2009, 08:49:06 pm
Do you have CIB Recca or something??  If you do, I envy you :P
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Yes, I have it ;)
(http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii100/Corisco73/Nintendo/th_recca.jpg) (http://s262.photobucket.com/albums/ii100/Corisco73/Nintendo/?action=view&current=recca.jpg)
Title: Re: Database of FAMICOM Manuals
Post by: L___E___T on July 14, 2009, 10:19:09 am
Did you say the Recca manual is back too, do you have a link? :)
Title: Re: Database of FAMICOM Manuals
Post by: corisco on July 16, 2009, 02:39:02 am
Yes, just click in the work "here" ;)
Title: Re: Database of FAMICOM Manuals
Post by: L___E___T on August 09, 2009, 01:47:09 pm
sounds obvious, but it didn't work last time I checked :)
The filesavr link is dead too :(   and this one:

http://www.nesfiles.com/games/



Finally found it (did a Ctrl +F) so I'll re-post it below if that's cool, I couldn't tell where your post was pointing to lol:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XJSKALQN

Title: Re: Database of FAMICOM Manuals
Post by: robcfg on August 18, 2009, 08:55:05 am
Would this be only for japanese Famicom games or would it include NES releases in other countries?