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Family Computer => Technical & Repair Assistance => Topic started by: BroSir on December 02, 2024, 05:12:00 pm

Title: NES toploader is modded for exp audio. Now for the honeybee adapter
Post by: BroSir on December 02, 2024, 05:12:00 pm
So my modder is following firebrandx's page.

http://www.firebrandx.com/edn8tonesrgb.html

That walkthrough is for a front loader. On consolemods.org for expansion audio, regarding a top loader, it says the following.

"If you have a NES top-loader, and have added the resistor(s) described in the above sections, solder a wire from pin 46 on the Famicom side of the adapter to pin 51 (EXP9) on the NES side of the adapter."

Everything seems straight forward. Can anyone confirm this is good to go, specifically with the honeybee? I know there are some resistors etc on the honeybee that im not seeing on more common fami 2 nes adapters. Should i expect any problems? Or am i good to go for audio expansion with cv3 and FDS games?


Ty you in advance. Also, please be gentle with your responses lol. Ive checked several posts and theres a lot of stuff that i dont understand.
Title: Re: NES toploader is modded for exp audio. Now for the honeybee adapter
Post by: P on December 03, 2024, 03:04:25 pm
I think those components are for the lockout-chip-defeat-circuit. It's a stun-circuit that zaps the CIC chip to prevent it from acting.
It won't affect your expansion audio but it's pretty shoddy, doesn't always work and I think it can actually damage your hardware. If I were you I would replace it with an AVRCICZZ.

Cartridge connector pinout (https://www.nesdev.org/wiki/Cartridge_connector#Pinout_of_72-pin_NES_consoles_and_cartridges)
CIC pinout (https://www.nesdev.org/wiki/CIC_lockout_chip_pinout)
Adding CIC clone to 72-pin adapter (http://www.dbwbp.com/index.php/10-electronic-projects/4-adding-cic-to-famicom-to-nes-adapter-import-adapter-mod)
Title: Re: NES toploader is modded for exp audio. Now for the honeybee adapter
Post by: BroSir on December 07, 2024, 05:49:47 pm
Quote from: P on December 03, 2024, 03:04:25 pmI think those components are for the lockout-chip-defeat-circuit. It's a stun-circuit that zaps the CIC chip to prevent it from acting.
It won't affect your expansion audio but it's pretty shoddy, doesn't always work and I think it can actually damage your hardware. If I were you I would replace it with an AVRCICZZ.

Are you able to link me anything about removing it, how to, and where i can obtain an AVRCICZZ?
Title: Re: NES toploader is modded for exp audio. Now for the honeybee adapter
Post by: P on December 08, 2024, 04:12:50 pm
Nope sorry, I don't know what needs to be done nor have I've seen a guide anywhere. Someone better at electronics could probably figure it out though.


The AVRCICZZ (https://github.com/krikzz/avrciczz)is just an ATtiny13 microcontroller which you can buy at electronic parts stores like Digikey or Mouser (or look in a local store that is cheaper). It's not expensive but you need to program it with the AVRCICZZ program. Or you could maybe check ebay or something for a preprogrammed AVRCICZZ.