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Title: Connecting the FDS to a front-loading NES
Post by: i heart yuna on December 20, 2007, 06:53:18 am
Will connecting an FDS to a front loading North American NES work? Aside from the obvious cosmetic incompatibility.

Has anyone attempted this?
Title: Re: Connecting the FDS to a front-loading NES
Post by: 133MHz on December 20, 2007, 07:35:48 am
Yes, it works.
Title: Re: Connecting the FDS to a front-loading NES
Post by: i heart yuna on December 20, 2007, 09:29:41 am
how?
Title: Re: Connecting the FDS to a front-loading NES
Post by: 133MHz on December 20, 2007, 05:45:29 pm
NES + Cart Converter + FDS Adapter + Disk System - NES top cover = NES Disk System

Sometimes you'll need a Game Genie if the connection is not secure enough, but it works 100%.
Title: Re: Connecting the FDS to a front-loading NES
Post by: UglyJoe on December 20, 2007, 07:38:52 pm
Quote from: 133MHz on December 20, 2007, 05:45:29 pm
Sometimes you'll need a Game Genie if the connection is not secure enough, but it works 100%.


I think the sound would be a bit off.  You can't write directly to the NES's sound output like you can on the Famicom, so I think you would lose the Disk System's saw wave extra audio channel.
Title: Re: Connecting the FDS to a front-loading NES
Post by: 133MHz on December 20, 2007, 08:31:24 pm
If you want the FDS's sound you can take a wire from the FC cart connector on the converter directly to the expansion port on the bottom, and ba-da-boom, FDS sound on your NES.

Maybe a tidier option would be using one of the unused pins on the NES cart connector to carry the signal to the expansion port.
Title: Re: Connecting the FDS to a front-loading NES
Post by: i heart yuna on December 21, 2007, 07:18:32 am
Here is a great tutorial i found that is complete with pictures:

http://nesplayer.com/technical/FDS.htm
Title: Re: Connecting the FDS to a front-loading NES
Post by: son_ov_hades on June 09, 2008, 06:44:44 pm
Sorry if this has been done, but I want to purchase a FDS and don't have a Famicom. I have a top loading NES and a converter. My question is, does the disk system function properly on a NES? I think as long as the RAM adapter is plugged into the converter it should work, right?
Title: Re: Connecting the FDS to a front-loading NES
Post by: 133MHz on June 09, 2008, 06:46:20 pm
Yes. You'd have to take the top off your NES & use a Game Genie to extend the cartridge connector though, but it's completely possible.
Title: Re: Connecting the FDS to a front-loading NES
Post by: son_ov_hades on June 09, 2008, 06:55:48 pm
I would have to take the top off of the top loading verson of the NES? I don't see how that would be much help.
Title: Re: Connecting the FDS to a front-loading NES
Post by: JC on June 09, 2008, 06:56:57 pm
Take a look at the link a few posts above. ;)
Title: Re: Connecting the FDS to a front-loading NES
Post by: son_ov_hades on June 09, 2008, 07:01:33 pm
Yeah but I have one of these.

(http://tnca.myrmid.com/gfx/topload.gif)
Title: Re: Connecting the FDS to a front-loading NES
Post by: ericj on June 09, 2008, 07:03:31 pm
You'd only have to take the top off the toaster, not the top loading nes. Correct me if I'm wrong  ;)
Title: Re: Connecting the FDS to a front-loading NES
Post by: 133MHz on June 09, 2008, 07:19:01 pm
Right. Try not to stress the RAM adapter too much by leaving it dangling just held by its connector. Fill the space between the console & RAM adapter with old papers or something.
Title: Re: Connecting the FDS to a front-loading NES
Post by: keiffer01 on June 10, 2008, 05:34:53 pm
Quote from: 133MHz on December 20, 2007, 08:31:24 pm
If you want the FDS's sound you can take a wire from the FC cart connector on the converter directly to the expansion port on the bottom, and ba-da-boom, FDS sound on your NES.

Maybe a tidier option would be using one of the unused pins on the NES cart connector to carry the signal to the expansion port.
A couple of months ago I wanted to attempt this on one of my NES systems, but I dont remember quite well what i had to do in order to add the extra channel. I soldered two pins on the expansion port together (pins 18 and 43? I dont remember). So now i would have to solder one of the unused game pins on the NES cart connector to where on the expansion port? ???
Title: Re: Connecting the FDS to a front-loading NES
Post by: UglyJoe on June 10, 2008, 05:51:30 pm
Quote from: keiffer01 on June 10, 2008, 05:34:53 pmSo now i would have to solder one of the unused game pins on the NES cart connector to where on the expansion port? ???


http://www.famicomworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=1860.msg21868#msg21868 (http://www.famicomworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=1860.msg21868#msg21868)
Title: Re: Connecting the FDS to a front-loading NES
Post by: RGB_Gamer on July 01, 2009, 02:21:19 am
I have an RGB modded (not modded by me) NES system and I was wondering if there was any kind of way to play FDS system on my system without having to open up the top and daisy chain converters/game genie.

thanks!
Title: Re: Connecting the FDS to a front-loading NES
Post by: b1aCkDeA7h on July 01, 2009, 08:21:59 am
If it's a toaster, I'm sure there's no easy way to do it.

As for all NESes, won't you not be able to hear the expansion sound channels anyway?
Title: Re: Connecting the FDS to a front-loading NES
Post by: 133MHz on July 01, 2009, 11:13:17 am
Please read UglyJoe's linked thread. It explains how to mod a NES for extra FDS sound in great detail. The rest is just mechanical aspects that can be solved with a chain of Game Genies.

Quote from: UglyJoe on June 10, 2008, 05:51:30 pm
http://www.famicomworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=1860.msg21868#msg21868 (http://www.famicomworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=1860.msg21868#msg21868)
Title: Re: Connecting the FDS to a front-loading NES
Post by: mobiusclimber on July 01, 2009, 12:46:02 pm
Pretty huge headache, tho. I mean it's cool that you CAN do it, but seriously, just buy a Fami, AV Fami or Twin Fami. If space is an issue, get an AV Fami, they're tiny. Heck, perch it on top of a front-loader.
Title: Re: Connecting the FDS to a front-loading NES
Post by: RGB_Gamer on July 01, 2009, 06:46:36 pm
Quote from: mobiusclimber on July 01, 2009, 12:46:02 pm
Pretty huge headache, tho. I mean it's cool that you CAN do it, but seriously, just buy a Fami, AV Fami or Twin Fami. If space is an issue, get an AV Fami, they're tiny. Heck, perch it on top of a front-loader.


Reason I asked about FDS on an NES is my NES is RGB modded and AV fami/Twin fami I have never seen an RGB mod for those.
Title: Re: Connecting the FDS to a front-loading NES
Post by: 133MHz on July 01, 2009, 07:03:50 pm
The RGB mod involves replacing the PPU so it should be the same procedure for the Famicom.
Title: Re: Connecting the FDS to a front-loading NES
Post by: RGB_Gamer on July 01, 2009, 07:11:48 pm
Quote from: 133MHz on July 01, 2009, 07:03:50 pm
The RGB mod involves replacing the PPU so it should be the same procedure for the Famicom.


I talked to acem77, the guy who did my RGB NES, and he says it's such a pain to mod a famicom, that the amp had to be external since it's such a tight fit. I don't really care much about the design of the famicom and hardwired buttons either.
Title: Re: Connecting the FDS to a front-loading NES
Post by: RGB on September 09, 2009, 08:04:30 am
Quote from: RGB_Gamer on July 01, 2009, 07:11:48 pm
I talked to acem77, the guy who did my RGB NES, and he says it's such a pain to mod a famicom, that the amp had to be external since it's such a tight fit. I don't really care much about the design of the famicom and hardwired buttons either.


Well, that's not true :/ You can easily fit the amp circuit in both Famicom and Famicom AV consoles. Here's a pic of my RGB modded Famicom AV for reference:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3467/3836435883_970a9fb9b8.jpg)

And it can be even tinier if you use SMD components.
Title: Re: Connecting the FDS to a front-loading NES
Post by: RGB_Gamer on September 09, 2009, 11:22:37 am
http://www.famicomworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=3848.msg60970#msg60970


I have a Unidapter so I can now use it with my RGB NES. And yes, the famicom/FDS extra sound channels are supported
Title: Re: Connecting the FDS to a front-loading NES
Post by: RGB_Gamer on September 12, 2009, 02:28:17 pm
RGB,

that is pretty slick. Have you ever RGB modded a Twin Famicom before?