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Misc. => Other Gaming => Topic started by: satoshi_matrix on January 26, 2008, 11:28:48 am

Title: Sega CD
Post by: satoshi_matrix on January 26, 2008, 11:28:48 am
I've got a question for you guys regarding the ol' Sega CD.

Over the years I've played numerious games on that system some great such as Lunar: The Silver Star others not so hot like Sewer Shark. I went to play Lunar recetnly but I guess it has a scrach in it and wont boot up properlly. My question is this:

Does the Sega CD have any copy protection and if not, can it play burnt games? Info on the net would seem to suggest it can, but I'm wondering if any of you know anything speicifc about it.

I'm presently downloading a torrent of Sega CD games, and I hope to be able to create playable copies of my childhood favoritres and some I've never played before, like Snatcher. I heard that its real good.
Title: Re: Sega CD
Post by: MaxXimus on January 26, 2008, 12:30:46 pm
The Sega CD has no protection. As far as I've read, it's just burn and play. Nothing special about the burning either like with Dreamcast.
Title: Re: Sega CD
Post by: manuel on January 26, 2008, 01:21:04 pm
Woo, nice!

I guess I need to get a Sega CD when I'm in Japan.

Can anybody recommend me some good games? (You may know my favourites are platformers, adventures and RPGs)
Title: Re: Sega CD
Post by: MaxXimus on January 26, 2008, 04:10:28 pm
Sonic. :P
Title: Re: Sega CD
Post by: UglyJoe on January 26, 2008, 04:15:32 pm
Snatcher.
Title: Re: Sega CD
Post by: satoshi_matrix on January 26, 2008, 04:31:57 pm
Lunar Silver Star
Lunar Eternal Blue
Mickey Mania
Sega Classics Collection
Snatcher
Sonic CD

off the top of my head.
Title: Re: Sega CD
Post by: Har the cat on January 26, 2008, 05:49:29 pm
FINAL FIGHT ;D
Title: Re: Sega CD
Post by: FamicomFreak on January 26, 2008, 07:01:46 pm
Only crap are you serious?? I must get a Sega CD NOW!!! I have four games I bought in the flea market that I wonder how they play.....another reason to get a Sega CD
Title: Re: Sega CD
Post by: manuel on January 27, 2008, 02:38:51 am
Thanks for the input. I'll look for those in Japan. :)
Title: Re: Sega CD
Post by: keiffer01 on January 27, 2008, 10:17:53 am
Definetly Snatcher and Sonic CD!!! ;D
Title: Re: Sega CD
Post by: satoshi_matrix on January 27, 2008, 11:23:29 am
Does anyone know just how to make a Sega CD rom into a playable version on the actual hardware? For instance, Snatcher(U). I downloaded it from ROMmantion and the rar file is like this:

Snatcher 02.mp3
Snatcher 03.mp3
Snatcher 04.mp3
Snatcher 05.mp3
Snatcher 06.mp3
Snatcher 07.mp3
Snatcher 08.mp3
Snatcher 08.mp3
Snatcher 10.mp3
Snatcher 11.mp3
Snatcher 12.mp3
Snatcher 13.mp3
Snatcher 14.mp3
Snatcher 15.mp3
Snatcher 16.mp3
Snatcher 17.mp3
Snatcher 18.mp3
Snatcher 19.mp3
Snatcher 20.mp3
Snatcher 21.mp3
Snatcher 22.mp3

As well as Snatcher.iso which is another rar inof itself contining countless .bin data files.

I tried burning it streight to a disc but the Sega CD won't reconize it. Any help?

I'm using Win XP and use Nero 6.
Title: Re: Sega CD
Post by: keiffer01 on January 27, 2008, 11:47:26 am
Well you should have disc juggler (download the free demo on google) , which is what I use to burn Sega CD games. Then, open Disc Juggler, open the Snatcher ISO folder, take the Snatcher ISO, and drop it in disc juggler. Disc Juggler should give you options a couple of options to prepare the cd. Click on the one ,''Make disk image''. Then you just insert a blank CD and click on start to burn the game. Hope that helps :)
Title: Re: Sega CD
Post by: 133MHz on January 27, 2008, 11:54:54 am
I don't own a Sega CD, but I think if you don't add the MP3s as audio tracks on the CD you won't get any music from the game, you have to join them someway as audio tracks after track 1 which is the data track.
Title: Re: Sega CD
Post by: UglyJoe on January 27, 2008, 12:27:47 pm
edit:  The cue file doesn't work entirely.  The game gets stuck while trying to load any of the driving scenes  :-\

There's a program called Sega Cue Maker that will generate a cue file for you to use.  Tell a competent burning program to use that cue file, and it should work.  I actually downloaded the iso/mp3 rip last night, so I have the cue file already.  It's working for me in an emulator.  The cue file is:


FILE "Snatcher.iso" BINARY
  TRACK 01 MODE1/2048
      INDEX 01 00:00:00
      POSTGAP 00:02:00
FILE "Snatcher 02.mp3" MP3
  TRACK 02 AUDIO
    PREGAP 00:02:00
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Snatcher 03.mp3" MP3
  TRACK 03 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Snatcher 04.mp3" MP3
  TRACK 04 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Snatcher 05.mp3" MP3
  TRACK 05 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Snatcher 06.mp3" MP3
  TRACK 06 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Snatcher 07.mp3" MP3
  TRACK 07 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Snatcher 08.mp3" MP3
  TRACK 08 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Snatcher 09.mp3" MP3
  TRACK 09 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Snatcher 10.mp3" MP3
  TRACK 10 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Snatcher 11.mp3" MP3
  TRACK 11 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Snatcher 12.mp3" MP3
  TRACK 12 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Snatcher 13.mp3" MP3
  TRACK 13 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Snatcher 14.mp3" MP3
  TRACK 14 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Snatcher 15.mp3" MP3
  TRACK 15 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Snatcher 16.mp3" MP3
  TRACK 16 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Snatcher 17.mp3" MP3
  TRACK 17 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Snatcher 18.mp3" MP3
  TRACK 18 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Snatcher 19.mp3" MP3
  TRACK 19 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Snatcher 20.mp3" MP3
  TRACK 20 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Snatcher 21.mp3" MP3
  TRACK 21 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Snatcher 22.mp3" MP3
  TRACK 22 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00

Title: Re: Sega CD
Post by: MarioMania on January 27, 2008, 12:57:46 pm
Final Fight CD & Sonic CD
Title: Re: Sega CD
Post by: TheSSNintendo on January 29, 2008, 04:56:22 pm
Shining Force CD
Title: Re: Sega CD
Post by: satoshi_matrix on January 29, 2008, 05:40:32 pm
UglyJoe or anyone else:

Okay, so I downloaded Sega Cue maker, and now have the cue file and the .iso and the mp3s for Snatcher.

What do you do to burn it correctly so it can play on the Sega CD?

Also, what about PAL or Japanese roms? will they be able to be burnt and played on a NTSC Sega CD? Any advice is appricated.
Title: Re: Sega CD
Post by: UglyJoe on January 29, 2008, 05:58:18 pm
I usually use Nero to burn stuff.  Just tell it to burn a disc image and load the cue file.  It should be able to do the rest (such as converting the mp3s to cd audio).  As far as I know, the SegaCD has no region lockout (although I'm not sure how a PAL game would work on an NTSC SegaCD/TV).
Title: Re: Sega CD
Post by: satoshi_matrix on January 30, 2008, 12:55:03 am
more specifically, a PAL ROM. I mean, the disc would record in ntsc mode wouldn't it? I'm cerious. One other thing: do you know if the CDX would be behave any differently? I heard some things that some burnt games won't run on it. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Sega CD
Post by: UglyJoe on January 30, 2008, 04:54:44 am
Quote from: satoshi_matrix on January 30, 2008, 12:55:03 am
more specifically, a PAL ROM. I mean, the disc would record in ntsc mode wouldn't it? I'm cerious.


PAL/NTSC don't refer to how the disc is recorded.  The data on the disc will still be formatted for PAL televisions.

Quote
One other thing: do you know if the CDX would be behave any differently? I heard some things that some burnt games won't run on it. Any thoughts?


Sorry, I have no idea.
Title: Re: Sega CD
Post by: MarioMania on January 30, 2008, 11:35:38 pm
I have the Sonic CD iso & tracks..I want to try to burn it from diskjuggler..What do I need to do..I have the orignal CD btw
Title: Re: Sega CD
Post by: UglyJoe on January 31, 2008, 04:36:51 am
Quote from: MarioMania on January 30, 2008, 11:35:38 pm
I have the Sonic CD iso & tracks..I want to try to burn it from diskjuggler..What do I need to do..I have the orignal CD btw


The same way I described to satoshi_matrix.  Get Sega Cue Maker, make the cue file, and tell Diskjuggler to burn the cue file.  You should be able to just copy the original CD, too, the same way you would copy any other CD.
Title: Re: Sega CD
Post by: satoshi_matrix on January 31, 2008, 04:06:17 pm
Ayup. I've already done that.CD Copy in nero or whatever works great.
Title: Re: Sega CD
Post by: MaxXimus on February 05, 2008, 03:12:55 pm
How are the graphics on the Sega CD? are they smooth? 16 bit right? Do the controls work well? I may pick one up if people think it really is worth it.
Title: Re: Sega CD
Post by: satoshi_matrix on February 06, 2008, 03:29:19 pm
two perspectives:

first, the angry videogame nerd complaining about it

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/19089.html

second, a much more objective look at it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=071wQCCUwhg


skip the first 3 minutes and 51 seconds because frankly, I don't know why it was included and man its baddddddddddddddddd XD Also this review is more of a response to the AVGN perspective, so watch that first.


All in all, the Sega CD does have some good games, but the good are washed out by a sea of crap.
Title: Re: Sega CD
Post by: Har the cat on February 07, 2008, 02:04:28 pm
There are just a few nice games according to me.
The only reason that i want a mega cd is because you can play the real final fight.
Thats the only reason. Allthough the wondermega and the mega cd 1 are very cool consoles but the wondermega is the same as selling a kidney :)