I was wondering if any one had a mint complete copy of Akumajou Denetsu (Castlevania 3).
Nope. I don't have one. I saw one on eBay last week, tho. :) Juggalo's a big fan of the series, but I don't know if he's got one -- plus he hasn't been around in a while...
dang i really want it especially to play it, but i wont buy one unless its complete.
Hmmm? Why?
here's why, would you jut download the rom and just play it there? no, its the same thing with having it complete it makes me alot more happy to own the real complete game. just like it would be better to own the cart instead of a rom.
Holding the game and a Famicom (maybe NES) controller in your hand is important -- as you call it, makes it "real". I hope you find it...and btw, welcome. I hope you stick around.
thanks man
Yeah, I hope you stick around!
Yeah, it's just like the nes scene--each collector decides what to collect! I'm certainly a cart only kind of guy. I personally would rather get the game and start playing than try and search for something complete! ;)
Quote from: michaelthegreat on August 24, 2006, 01:51:10 pm
Yeah, it's just like the nes scene--each collector decides what to collect! I'm certainly a cart only kind of guy. I personally would rather get the game and start playing than try and search for something complete! ;)
I have to agree, I'd rather buy the games to play than to collect. I really only "collect" accessories, since there's some stuff I'd never in my right mind use...
i guess i forgot to mention i collect castlevania games.
Quote from: trevorbelmont on August 24, 2006, 04:55:11 pm
i guess i forgot to mention i collect castlevania games.
Hahahah, awesome! They're so expensive Japanese wise...
rondo of blood was expensive.
Thing is, the Japanese sellers sell it high on the US eBay because they know people will pay those kind of prices there. They can't sell them for anywhere near that much to Japanese buyers because they're smart enough to know how insanely common they are...same thing with titles like Gryzor or DBZ, stuff that sells insanely high here but really isn't common at all...while the rare shit goes dirt cheap because nobody knows what exactly it is :P
Oh, and as for the completeness issue, I feel that I'd rather have complete games, but if I really wanted it, I'd pick up a cart, and upgrade later on down the road. But something about having a CIB copy, especially a CIB mint copy, of a game is just special.
Not to knock this thread too much off course, but you make a good point, Wiz666. I've found it really stupid how a lot of US eBayers will drool over and bid really high on games they're familiar with, but won't spend more than a couple bucks if the name is unfamiliar to them. You see the Famicom version of NES games selling like mad, but you hardly ever see the Japanese-exclusives doing so hot. Some sellers don't even seem to offer the exclusives all that much 'cause they can't rake in the dough with those (unless it has a familiar title like Dragon Ball Z).
To tie it all in: The same is true of Akumajo Dracula Dentsu. US eBayer drool over it, even thought there's a lot of better Japanese-exclusive games out there.
I really have to agree with the above statements, which is also why Soap Panic would never sell on eBay unless sold under its NES name: Bubble Bath Babes
JC and JL have good points, I've sold some great Japanese games for next to nothing and lost money on them because majority of American buyers are looking for something familiar, that they understand. People like things they know but are slightly different, it's really exciting to see something you've grown up playing and loving in a different way. And as far as popular games going for more in US than in Japan, well of course, that's supply and demand. And ebay is crazy anyway, one day something will go for twenty bucks and then next it'll go for hundred, ya never know.
Quote from: featherpluckinfilm on August 31, 2006, 07:42:07 am
JC and JL have good points, I've sold some great Japanese games for next to nothing and lost money on them because majority of American buyers are looking for something familiar, that they understand. People like things they know but are slightly different, it's really exciting to see something you've grown up playing and loving in a different way. And as far as popular games going for more in US than in Japan, well of course, that's supply and demand. And ebay is crazy anyway, one day something will go for twenty bucks and then next it'll go for hundred, ya never know.
Yeah, I pretty much agree with that 100%. Especially consider this: How many Famicom game buyers are regular buyers? Unlike with the NES, I never see regular names. I only see Laurent Kermel of vgden.com, besides me. However, sometimes games that came here have a justifiable reason for going for a huge amount of money. Take Abarenbou Tengu, for example. Came to the U.S. as Zombie Nation. I'd love to get a copy of the Japanese version...
how much fo you guys think Akumajou Denetsu is worth?
$30 even?
a mint complete copy is worth 30?
No, based on rarity, it's probably only worth $10. That's what it sells for :P
Quote from: the_wizard_666 on August 31, 2006, 08:05:07 pm
No, based on rarity, it's probably only worth $10. That's what it sells for :P
You are correct, Wiz. :)
Quote from: the_wizard_666 on August 31, 2006, 08:05:07 pm
No, based on rarity, it's probably only worth $10. That's what it sells for :P
wow are you kidding me? thats so low. its not that it matters no one is going to sell it for 10.
Quote from: trevorbelmont on September 01, 2006, 05:28:11 am
Quote from: the_wizard_666 on August 31, 2006, 08:05:07 pm
No, based on rarity, it's probably only worth $10. That's what it sells for :P
wow are you kidding me? thats so low. its not that it matters no one is going to sell it for 10.
Exactly the point all of us are making. People spend so much because it was released in the U.S., while gems like Tama and Friends go for about $5...
The ONLY reason why A Week of Garfield is expensive is because of the power of the internet, the articles written, the ROM, and testimonials saying how "bad" it is, when it is DEFINITELY a very good game.
Garfield is a highly recognizable name -- Americans know Garfield.
Quote from: JC on September 01, 2006, 11:16:42 am
Garfield is a highly recognizable name -- Americans know Garfield.
Americans know who Mega Man is, why do his games go for cheap?
Well, you gotta look at it case-by-case. I don't think Rock Man goes for cheap. Featherpluck just sold all six for over $100.
Quote from: JC on September 01, 2006, 11:30:12 am
Well, you gotta look at it case-by-case. I don't think Rock Man goes for cheap. Featherpluck just sold all six for over $100.
But you can do that with the U.S. version carts and get away with it, too...
Akumajou Densetsu is definitely not a $10 game and basing the value of a game of an eBay auction is a hard thing to do as well because that is the value of it during a weeks period set by those few people who were able to see it. Even if those same people saw it at a different point in their life it may have a different value based on how much extra money they have or if they are craving it more. I sold Tama and Friends for $5 but its definitely not a $5 game. Regular store price would probably be something more like $10 or $15 not complete. Mr. Belmont is trying to find out whether I offered him a good price or not, I offered him $65 for Akumajou Densetsu complete, with all the inserts, ads and registration cards. This price was based on how much I wanted to keep the game for my own collection (since I had just sold mine since he had asked me to) and how much that one just sold for ($80some). When I try to find games for people I try to get the best price but at the same time I'm not gonna work my butt off going through crap loads of clearance games trying to find you a $10 complete game that is impossible to find, spending hours and hours to make 5 bucks. And if it's something I wanna keep then I'm gonna want more for it too. Also if someone asked me to find Tama and Friends for them I seriously doubt I could sell it for $5 bucks because games I find are usually just flukes that I found for cheap in some lot with a bunch of other games. The cheapest things are found randomly and not when looking for something specific, thats why my auctions are ususally cheaper than if you ask me to find something for you. Just like the Joyball controller, you could never find that for $1.99 in a store. Those are the kind of things that I do lose moeny on sometimes. But so used game prices are really so variable its hard to set just one price for their value, there are so many variables, especially when you're talking about Japanese games in America.
exactly, I wouldnt really wouldnt be asking 10 bucks either because its not reasonable, if it was i would have asked you buy now :) I think somewere in the 30's is a reasonable price but thats just what I think. featherpluckin i know you prbably know this but i wasnt trying to figure out if you were trying to rip me off nor do i think you were.
Quote from: featherpluckinfilm on September 02, 2006, 01:57:42 am
Akumajou Densetsu is definitely not a $10 game and basing the value of a game of an eBay auction is a hard thing to do as well because that is the value of it during a weeks period set by those few people who were able to see it. Even if those same people saw it at a different point in their life it may have a different value based on how much extra money they have or if they are craving it more.
Yeah, eBay is such a strange creature. I hear what you're saying about how drastically prices on eBay can fluctuate for some items. During the summertime, when I assume gamers had more time to be searching eBay, the prices seemed to go much higher, and now that the academic year is starting up, there are less people looking for those hard-to-find great deals on eBay -- thankfully for a buyer like me.
I've always wondered how you determine pricing. I know you aren't out to lose money, but at the same time you're here to help us get ahold of stuff we can't from outside of Japan. I noted elsewhere that your videos tend to be priced higher than most items -- I assume those are just harder to come by. And it sounds like the same is true of Akumajo Densetsu.
Do you think it's true that American buyers favor games they're familiar with over games they haven't tried before?
(And geeze, living in Japan, I bet you've got an awesome collection!)
QuoteDo you think it's true that American buyers favor games they're familiar with over games they haven't tried before?
Definatly. I mean, if you buy something that's familiar to you, but in its uncut, original from, you don't have to worry about the language because you already know the play controls, what to do/where to go, etc.
On the flipside, I believe most people think the North American Famicom community is a rather small group, and you wouldn't think that those minds would be all collected together and easy to find. For example, a popular gaming forum is GameFAQs.com. 'Round there, the Japanese Castlevanias, SMB2j, and the Rockmen are about all the Fami disscution that goes on the NES board (I don't think the have a separate board for Fami; just FDS, and that's got a whole nother list of risks to go along with it). Given that, most are afraid that they'll end up with some RPG entierly in Japanese and be forced to use a guide, which probably drops the enjoyment level. Also, if they buy an unfamiliar game, even with the instruction booklet, they might not be able to figure it out.
Don't believe me? When was the last time you bought a game soley based on the name? Weren't your first FC purchases familiar ones? For those with the FDS, didn't you want to buy Doki Doki Panic, SMB2j, Zelda, or Metroid first? It's perfectly natural to go with what we know and head for the sure buy, so we know what we're getting for our money.
Quote from: nes_pwnerer on September 02, 2006, 07:49:10 pm
Don't believe me? When was the last time you bought a game soley based on the name? Weren't your first FC purchases familiar ones?
I may be a special case, but my first Famicom purchase was not familiar at all. I bought a CIB Famicom that came with 40 games -- not a single one of which I could identify without the help of friends here and on other forums. And, within that lot, I've discovered a lot of gems I wouldn't have found without being forced to explore these unfamiliar titles. For instance, some that I had never heard of: Galaxian, Joy Mech Fight, SD Hero Soukessen, Akumajo Special, Don Doko Don, etc. The list could continue. I didn't know a single one of those when I jumped into Famicom gaming. And I still make it a point to buy games that I've never heard of. I did that recently with about five games, one of which turned out to be really fun: Higemaru Makaijima. And it's not that I have money to waste; I just enjoy that surprise of finding a gem that no one here or on other forums is yet talking about.
But I agree with you on your other points. You run the risk of buying a game that, because you don't know Japanese, will be impossible to play, without some shitty guide/translation. That's why I started a thread here a while back called: Don't Buy! Unless You Know Japanese.
Yeah, I'd better go check out that thread.
i have boughten many Japanese games before that i had trouble doing some things because i didn't know Japanese even though i still dint, i still buy some Japanese games that catch my interest. But i have been castlevania 3 since i was young (it got me into castlevania) I was born in 91 cv3 cameout in 90 (89 in japan)
I played this game on the nes(all the nes games were my brothers and this one was the only one we had.) when i was 3 or 4, I wasn't even aware of how much of a classic this game was! ,I could have played something else anything else, hell its just a great game too! so I'm not just familiar with this game it very special too me it brings back the greatest memories as it does for others.
CV III is an incredible game; the music is even stuning on the NES version (I have a copy myself). Did it ever have a period where people just went "OMFG TEH MUSAK CHIP PWNZORZ j00r @$$" and the price just went straight up, or is that yet to come?
Btw, trevorbelmont, the thing you said about looking for a familiar face in a different light is exactly what I ment by the whole "sure buy" thing, so now we have stone cold proof (Well, it kinda was already proved, but still...). And JC; You had never heard of Galaxian prior to the Famicom? It was in arcades and such too, eh? It even had an NES port.
Suprisingly, no, I hadn't heard of Galaxian even though it was in the arcades. And I wasn't shy about arcades, either. I just missed that one, I guess.
I see...I'm more of a Galaga man myself (I find it more fast-paced; plus you can have more shots on the screen at once) but Galaxian still has its place as a classic along side Galaga on the dozens of pirate carts out there.
I was gonna mention Galaga. My older brother swears I used to play Galaga religiously at Pizza Hut. That's were all the arcade games were found back in the '80s in my small desert town. My recollection of gaming at Pizza Hut is hazy. So, I guess it's always possible that I played Galaxian, too, and just don't remember.
I miss all of this great conversation...DAMNIT!
But yeah, I ALWAYS buy stuff that I'm not familiar with, that's how I found out about the addictiveness of Pizza Pop!, Tama and Friends (Which when looking at the Japanese website, is MASSIVLY popular and I can see why feather says that it's not worth $5.), Famista '90, amongst others. However, I do believe that Castlevania is really in reality only worth between $10-$15 RARITY WISE, other than that, I can see why some of you think that it's worth more money, especially in stores. That's why I don't use eBay as a reliable source of pricing Famicom games. Mike of NESPlayer got Soap Panic for $75 loose, when it goes for around $130-$140 loose, if you look at the rarity and the company that released it (Hacker).
I just hope i get a god deal on Akumajou Denetsu someday.
Hey, there's no such thing as a bad deal man. Say you bought a game for $40 that's worth $5, but you love the game, and play it all the time. Who's to say it's a bad deal? If you get $40 worth of play time out of it, it's definitely a good deal. We're not saying it's not worth that much, we're saying that based on rarity it should never reach prices that high...but it consistantly will because people love the game.
as of right now i have no money but 40 bucks for a mint complete cpy (that looks really good) ofcourse i would pay 30 to 40 bucks for it but no one is selling it for that much.
Quote from: the_wizard_666 on September 04, 2006, 03:08:37 am
Who's to say it's a bad deal?
Exactly. Some people might think I was an idiot for buying Sweet Home complete for $40, but I love the game, so I don't care. :)
im suprised none here has a akumajou denetsu.
...or just doesn't want to part with it. ;)
oh yea that too, actually that IS the reason no one is selling it.
or just the complete part throws us off... I've got 3 or 4 copies of it cart only. I think I've paid 15-25 each for them. I really think the 50-70 range is correct for the complete.
Perfect looking copy....decent price compared to the other CIBs I've seen lately.
HERE (http://cgi.ebay.com/NES-Famicom-Akumajo-Dracula-Densetsu-JAP-JP-IMPORT_W0QQitemZ120023642110QQihZ002QQcategoryZ54957QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
Wow; that cover art looks amazing!
Quote from: JC on September 15, 2006, 08:21:59 am
Perfect looking copy....decent price compared to the other CIBs I've seen lately.
HERE (http://cgi.ebay.com/NES-Famicom-Akumajo-Dracula-Densetsu-JAP-JP-IMPORT_W0QQitemZ120023642110QQihZ002QQcategoryZ54957QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
HOLY SHIT!!! I JUST GAVE MY MOM 60 dollars and NOW I SEE THIS!!!
this is totally not fair im sure this will sell in a couple days and i dont have the money to buy this!
It's gone! Anyone know the buyer: mr_ookami? I was hoping someone from here would snag it.
Ouch...
damnit i should have never gave my mom the money. I finally see a good copy as soon as i have no money to buy it. I swear if it wasnt for bad luck i would have NO luck!
Hadn't seen one in a while...this one isn't as mint as the last one:
HERE (http://cgi.ebay.com/AKUMAJOU-CASTLEVANIA-III-DRACULA-FAMICOM-IMPORT-MINT_W0QQitemZ230041000730QQihZ013QQcategoryZ62053QQcmdZViewItem)
Another...
HERE (http://cgi.ebay.com/NES-famicom-Japan-CastleVania2-complete_W0QQitemZ8206405228QQihZ020QQcategoryZ62053QQcmdZViewItem)