Hello everyone. I have my share of NES knowledge but, when it comes to Famicom, I am a total n00b. Here's my question:
I am looking for a Famicom, but I'm not sure which one I should get. I've broken it down to either a regular Famicom w/ AV modification, a knock-off (one of those ones that look exactly like the system but has a different colour scheme and name), or a plain old, untouched model. I've ruled out the AV Famicom, Twin Famicom, and NEX because I just don't have the money and I dislike the NEX's NOAC design. So, which is the best way to go? Oh, and do the knock-offs use the NOAC design? Thanks.
My opinion is that you should go for the regular Famicom. You have the chance of the knock-off of not working...
And welcome aboard.
Thanks. One more quick little bit...
I've been scouring eBay, and this is what I've come up with:
"http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250023202621&fromMakeTrack=true" This should shoot throught the roof and shipping is breakin my balls
Or
"http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=160024823929&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=006" However, your warning about pirated goods makes me reconsider.
One? The other? Neither? What do you guys think?
That is one swank looking pirate. :)
Once, I saw one that looked JUST LIKE the Famicom with no logos...I was shocked!
If given those two choices, I'd go for the pirate, because the shipping in the first auction is a rip-off.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Hey, do you know WHY people charge so much for shipping? Partially it's because people the most they can get outta you, but also because that the sellers have to pay a certain percentage of their final selling price to eBay, so what they do is just hide it in the shipping costs. eBay hates it when people do this, but then again, people are still selling protos and demos long after they have forbade them, so I don't think they're going to do anything about it.
I hear that percentage is rising and rising, too...it's soon going to become a damn joke to even use it to sell anything, anymore...
Damn, I've been watching both of those very closely. I think the first one with the high shipping would be a great steal for me, because i don't want the Famicom, just the games, so I'd be able to resell the Famicom. And that Russian pirate is awesome. That seller's had some great stuff the past couple of days. I snagged myself a multi-cart with a bunch of hacks, like the teletubbies inserted for Mario characters in Super Mario Bros. More on that one when I get it.
I'd go with a regular Famicom myself. It's the most reliable. You'd have a tough time with the pirate -- look at the AC adaptor. You'd need a new one that can pull the proper juice, or you'd need a prong converter.
TELETUBBIES?! Do an article and pics, as soon as you can!
Yeah it's also got, I think Toy Story characters inserted into another game, and then the Ninja Turtles inserted into DK or something like that. I'll know when I get it. The description wasn't clear, but the seller guaranteed it'll have cool hacks like that, plus about 70 other games (like you're standard multi-cart).
That just kicks so much ass!
:-\Ack! Now I've become torn again! Meh, I guess I'll go for the pirate; the real deal looks like I'd be too much for me with the box 'n all those games. I'll just pick up a loose one later...
Btw, do the pirate use NOAC or something else?
Super Teletuby Bros.? LOL! That'd be a sight for sore eyes!
It'd definitely be an interesting sight, for sure.
QuoteBtw, do the pirate use NOAC or something else?[/quote[
NOAC= ?
How much are you looking to pay for a Famicom?
To FamicomJL:
NOAC is... ah screw it; I'm too lazy: "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NES-on-a-chip". The stuff it says about glitches inaccurate colours, sounds, etc. has been true for me in the past (anyone heard of Yobo? Yeah i regret that purchase too...)
To JC: Like I said above, I am the Famicom n00b, so I'm not really sure on the value. I suppose it would depend on things like condition n' all like all other classic items, but I really don't have an idea.
And I'm pretty sure trying to give you an estimate from eBay would result in you telling me off :P
Ahhhh, I get it now, thanks. :D
Well, maybe we'd tell you off for wanting to pay too much. We're all pretty tight saps here. :P But I was just curious what, as a newbie, you'd be willing to pay. Not 'cause I want to rip you off right now -- we'll save that for later -- but because I'm curious what a newbie thinks the Famicom is worth.
And that NES chip looks neat, aside from all the glitches. I probably have one in that controller-console I just bought. The controller-console has a few glitches, but nothing major. Occasionally on the screen there are dark, scrolling patches. Yeah, bad, but overall not too bad for how cheap they can come.
There are probably some clones that are better than others. I guess I just got the short end of the stick (music is all swiched around and tint is off. As well, it won't play Castlevania III due to it having an extra chip). Anywho, from what I've been able to gather, the fair prices for thesse things are roughly equal to the of the NES-101(not on eBay), so $50-$70 is what I'm thinking. How close am I, if at all?
Sounds reasonable to me: lower end for console/cords only, higher end for CIB. You can even get luckier if you find a national seller. Shipping from overseas is a bitch for large items, so I'd recommend finding a Famicom wherever you are. And sometimes if you're patient enough, you'll find one that's mislisted, which'll bring down the price considerably. I got lucky with mine -- found a cheap BIN with CIB Famicom and 40 games, but I think the shipping was overpriced. I paid just over $100, plus shipping.
Yeah, if you wait long enough you can get anything at any price. One thing remains; should I just wait it out for the real deal or stick with the pirate? The good old red-and-white master of disaster just has that extra charm.
I'd really hesitate before I buy a foreign pirate. I have a couple and they're difficult to get working. In fact, I haven't yet gotten my pirate consoles working.
Wow. I didn't know pirates were so bad. I'm definatly sticking with the real thing now.
If I'm feeling sassy, I might keep an eye on the auction perviously posted; see if it goes for anything.
Hey, you better not swipe that from me. :P
And yeah, it isn't that the pirates themselves are bad, but that foreign systems have all their unique TV and power requirements. It takes a lot of converters and know-how to get them working. I don't have the converters or know-how!
My brother's a bit of a comp guy, but w/e. The real thing is also more reliable so yea, thats the way I'll go
Don't worry, I won't swipe it ;D ... Seriously, I haven't got that kinda money right now so don't worry. Man, I need a job.
I was lucky. My first system ever was pirated, and it was very simple and worked very well. The only problem being that the colors were a bit bright...
Yes, it's things like the bright colours and such that drive me away from pirated systems. I'm really anal about all that. However, the guy selling the system is from Texas, so I'll ask him about the hookups, see if there's a problem there.
Like I said, look at the pic; the power adapator it comes with it not gonna be easy to hook up. I was in communication with the seller last night about this item. He is nice and may be able to offer you some hints on how to get it to work. He may have the hookups he used to get it working (assuming he actually used it) and he might be willing to offer them up as part of the purchase. It's a neat system, but it might not be more than a collector's item, if you can't get it to work.
He does say that it's never been tested. This seems to be a lot of trouble for something that might not even be functioning to begin with. This is all rather frustrating because I remember a number of months back, I could've picked up an AV modified one w/o hookups for $25 plus $20-$30 something (it's been awhile and I can't really rememeber) shipping since it was in Thailand. Looking back, I can't believe I passed that up. Oh well, I'll just keep my eyes peeled for one in the future.
Hmm...I remember that one. I thought of picking it up myself. I hesitated and the next time I checked, it was gone.
Yeah, what ever happened to those guys? I'm crossing my fingers to hope they crank out a few more.
Also, what's the value of a Twin? They're a few of them up right now at around $55 apiece.
The Twin Famicoms usually go for over $100, I think, depending, of course, on condition. If you're really looking for a quality Famicom/FDS combination, the Twin is the one to go for! But those can get expensive.
That's what I remember. When I first got into NES, I saw those things and $100 was the regular going price. If they're so rare, why is there always at least one on eBay 24/7? Think about that :)
I don't think a lot of what we see in the Famicom list on eBay is all that rare...in Japan. Here, it's a little more rare. And the Twin Famicoms are the combinatin of Famicom/FDS. If you think about the price that the Famicom and FDS actually go for -- which is over $100 if you buy both, then the Twin Famicom isn't all that unreasonable.
Touche ::)
Then I guess it all really depends on wheather or not you're going to play disk system games. For me: umm... maybe; I mean, buying anything FDS-related is expensive and comes with huge risks that really throw functionality into question. The seller could test it, see that it works, arrive on my doorstep, and then go caput. The whole idea seems pretty shaky.
I haven't purchased anything FDS yet, including the system. I'm leery of it, too. I like the certainty of having a solid board in my cart, instead of a flimsy whatever it is in a disk. Plus, you can get some, if not all, of the good FDS games on cart, though often as pirates. But I love pirate carts!
Indeed, pirates are rather fantastic. Who else could stick up to 80 games onto one tiny cart or put whole Famicoms into N64 controllers or Nomad and GBA lookalikes?
Then again, I live for that feeling you get when a friend comes over, looks at whatever crazy thing you got set up and say "What the hell is that thing?". I've heard that many times about my Virtual Boy and even gotten this comment from people looking at my Genesis with its 32X on top of it! Some people are so...not out-of-the-loop.
To JC:
After much deliberation, I'll probably hit up that Famicom w/ the games that I posted earlier (I'll have to make some sacrifices, but it'll be worth it.). Sorry dude, but not only will this get me a BOXED bad boy, but I'll have some games to boot. It'll probably end up shooting out of my range rather quickly , but it's worth a try, right?
I won't neccessarily get it...all I'm saying is watch out ;D
Quote from: FamicomJL on August 31, 2006, 01:13:16 pm
TELETUBBIES?! Do an article and pics, as soon as you can!
Damn. I got screwed. That multi-cart with the cool hacks never came. Got lost in the pipeline somewhere between the seller's hands to my hands. I'm damn bitchy right now. >:(
Man, that blows. Did you get your money back?
No I didn't get my money back.
I didn't think it was fair to the seller to request a refund, because I really trust the seller and I don't think he did anything wrong. He says he shipped it out, and I believe him. You remember...it's the Texan who was also selling that Russian Famicom. He promised to give me a good deal on the Russian Famicom as a way of putting the missing cart behind us. :)
Oh well that's cool.
Also: http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120026760071
I'm pretty sure i went overboard, but oh well; I think its worth it.
Ah nice! That's about $15 more than I would have paid, but it's in such nice condition. I can't get over how white it is. I hope it works out ok. You'll have to tell us if the 190 in 1 is any good. Maybe it'll have some cool games on it -- I hope not too many repeats, though most with more than 100 games have repeats. Sometimes the pirate dudes make the repeats fun, hacking the speed of the repeats or what have you.
Yeah, I'll totally keep you guys posted. I'd be rather angry if it didn't work, but if the guy accidentally fried the thing, wouldn't it be kinda obvious to him if he broke it? Like the system smoking or something?
Anywho, I may have payed a bit too much, but you know how you get when really want something and get goo-goo eyed :o Also, the whole turing yellow thing, is that like with the SNES where it's a result of cheap plastic corroding? How does it happen?
Two good questions and I can't answer either with any certainty. I think if he fried it, it would have gone pop! and then died. Not really dramatic like with smoke and flames and fire engines.
And the yellow, as far as I know, is just from light. I keep mine stored away and only pull it out to play. Obviously, the more sunlight, the worse it is. So direct sunlight is a huge no, no. But a little sunlight bouncing off white walls isn't as bad. Again, I don't know for sure how it's caused or what amount of sunlight it would take to yellow it.
Sunlight... :o I'm speechless...
Anyway, I don't mean the FC would burn his house down or anything. I just mean it might be like the pirate console on NESPlayer that looks like a SNES. The guy tested it out and smoke billowed out of the system.
http://www.nesplayer.com/pirates/SNES.htm
Yeah, I was exaggerating for the fun of it. But I guess a little smoke is possible when a system gets fried. :)
Thought you were...let us all pray for its functionality...
Let us know when you get it and how it works out. I'm curious if it's modded and if that makes it easier to set up. Oh, and that multi-cart -- don't forget to divulge the contents.
K, I'll give you guys a lil' update here. On the 11th, I got this e-mail from the seller:
"Hi Bryan!
Many thanks for the PayPal echeck! I'll have your package shipped out in a couple days
when it clears.
Gerald
This email confirms that you have received a Pending eCheck Instant Purchase Payment for $65.50 USD from Bryan xxxxx (bc_in_mb@hotmail.com).
This eCheck Payment will remain "Uncleared" until the funds have cleared from the sender's account, which usually takes 4 business days. If you are shipping an item, please do not ship your item until the funds have cleared into your PayPal account. You will be notified by email when the funds have cleared into your PayPal balance. "
So, according to this, it's somewhere in the mail, right? In a week or two, I'll have my Fami. Can't wait! ;D
So just as I was leaving my house today for a funeral, I see the one thing that can make you jump for joy even when you're on your way to a funeral barreling down my street: the Canada Post delivery truck. Sure enough, when I got home, one of those Delivery Notification slips was in my mailbox. So tomorrow, after 1:00 PM, I'll drop by my local 7-Eleven and pick up my new FC!
Well, then I'm happy and sad for you. :) :(
And why 7-Eleven? When I get a notification slip I go to the post office to pick up the package. Dang weird-ass Canadians. :P :)
"And why 7-Eleven? When I get a notification slip I go to the post office to pick up the package. Dang weird-ass Canadians."
hahahaha i was thinking the same thing!
Hey! I take offence to that comment. Where else can I pick my purchases and get some sort of tasty treat all in one location?
What? Oh yeah...the FC's BROKEN! I can't tell you how disapointed I was when I tried firing it up. Nothing at all comes up on the screen. You wouldn't even be able to tell if I turned it on or not. I took it apart to examined the innards, and nothing looked broken or melted or anything. However, from what I see, I think it's a power problem. There must be some loose connection somewhere...
At least the pirate is good. When you turn it on, "Super 190 in 1" scrolls up slowly on a starry background. Then you pick a section either 1-100 or 100-190. Then you get to another page with some sweet upbeat music and pick from another seclection of pages of games. Once again I've only been to the 1st page, so when you go there, the same music that is on my 31-in-1 boots up. I see the usually Exerion and 1942 and that. It also contains both the BPS Tetris and Tengen's Tetris, which is totally excellent as I'm a Tetris fan. Another interest is a game called "The New Human" which is kinda like Gun.Smoke.
Anywho, don't wanna take up the whole page, so I'll leave you with this. I'll post again when I check out more of the cart (or if you guys know any more about busted FCs...).
After more examining of the cart, there's about 85 or so unique games. One pleasant surprise was "Fancy Mario" which is the same game as the "Dream Mary" posted on your Pirates section. Note that all of the uniques are in the first half of the cart: the other half has "Super", "Crazy", or "Crazy Super" at the beginning of each game, which just allows you to modify certain aspects of the game (lives, starting level, etc) (And yes, me and my friends all had a good laugh at "Crazy Arabian"). When I'm less lazy, I'll write out a full list of games.
And again, if anyone has any tips of what to look out for when trying to figure out how to get a Famicom to work, (like a checklist or something) please let me know. I'm dying to play the real thing!
Sorry about my abscence! I've been busy and haven't even been playing any games in awhile. Anyway, I've got pics:
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j59/nes_pwnerer/DSC01608.jpg)
Here's our subject. As you would expect, there is NO Ghostbusters on the cart
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j59/nes_pwnerer/DSC01610.jpg)
This is the back, complete with a game list. It's all in Japanese, so it doesn't help me much.
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j59/nes_pwnerer/DSC01615.jpg)
Duh-nuh..........duh-nuh...........
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j59/nes_pwnerer/DSC01616.jpg)
.....dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j59/nes_pwnerer/DSC01617.jpg)
DAH!!!!....That was the intro. The cart may have repeats, but it just redeemed itself right there (Note that there really isn't any Jaws-type suspence sounds effects; that was for dramatic buildup).
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j59/nes_pwnerer/DSC01618.jpg)
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j59/nes_pwnerer/DSC01619.jpg)
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j59/nes_pwnerer/DSC01620.jpg)
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j59/nes_pwnerer/DSC01621.jpg)
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j59/nes_pwnerer/DSC01622.jpg)
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j59/nes_pwnerer/DSC01623.jpg)
All in all a pretty solid multicart. If anyone has any questions regarding titles or what-have-you, please ask.
Yes, is each Tetris different? I take it one of them is the Tengen one. ;)
Tetris I is BPS Tetris (as seen on the site) and Tetris II is Tengen Tetris. It was cool to finally play the BPS version, but Tengen is much better, mostly because two can play at once.
It would be okay if were to put that on the site, right? ;D
Sure, no problem. I do what I can.
Also, I have a 200-in-1 if you're interested. It's in an NES cart though...
Quote from: FamicomJL on November 05, 2006, 07:12:46 am
It would be okay if were to put that on the site, right? ;D
You gonna type out the games list, JL? :P
Quote from: JC on November 05, 2006, 07:39:17 pm
Quote from: FamicomJL on November 05, 2006, 07:12:46 am
It would be okay if were to put that on the site, right? ;D
You gonna type out the games list, JL? :P
Let me get back to you on that one... ;D
Quote from: nes_pwnerer on September 24, 2006, 04:47:24 pm
And again, if anyone has any tips of what to look out for when trying to figure out how to get a Famicom to work, (like a checklist or something) please let me know. I'm dying to play the real thing!
Did you ever figure out what's wrong? Or can you say whether it's the adaptor, RF, or just a burnt Famicom? It sucks that you can't get it working, but hey, I've owned a Famicom for over three months and have yet to play it. But I think the problem with mine is my TV not my Famicom. I'll know for sure in about a month when I have a new TV to test it on. And if the Famicom works, brace yourself for an ecstatic post from me about it. ;D
Can't wait! I'm going to try getting an official AC adaptor first because it seems it's not getting any power, so hopefully that'll work. If it does, I'll make an almost-as-ecstatic post as yours.
http://tinyurl.com/y28r8q
I've finally got one...and what's better is it's actually in my area, so I can just pick it up instead of paying ridiculous shipping priceses to get it over the Pacific. AND it comes w/ a game (anyone recognize it?). Bonus!
Finally for you, eh? :P
Awesome. :D I hope this one works out much better. I don't recognize the game by the label. Pirate or authentic?
Welcome back, JC! And yes, I'm very glad to have finally got one (it's still in the mail, but you know what I mean...). Also, the seller has verified its functionallity, so as long as I take the proper precations, I think I'll be fine.
As for the cart, I never asked and the flash kind of blocks out the label, so I'll see when it gets here. He says it's a basketball game, so I hope its the Japanese version of Magic Johnson's Fast Break, if that exists. Slammin' Jammin' Basketball Action! :D