Just won a gamecube, Comes with 2 controllers, a memory card, some sonic game, and all of the cords.
I was thinking of making it so it can play japan games, Like Doshin the Giant, and... Um.. Doshin the Giant.
Wondering a few things.
Is there anything I can do (Without a chip) to make it play burned games*
WOuld I burn them To Mini DVDs or Mini CDrs?
Can I make it to play PAL games*?
Any other cool things I can do to it?
I bought it to do stuff to it.
I have never been a fan of Gamecube, it seemed like a half-assed attempt by Nintendo in my opinion.
New conversions can be done to use full size disk, with case mod. You will need a chip to play non region 1 games.
Quote from: nurd on September 28, 2008, 06:39:08 pm
I was thinking of making it so it can play japan games, Like Doshin the Giant, and... Um.. Doshin the Giant.
If you only want to play Japanese games, do a region switch mod.
Quote from: nurd on September 28, 2008, 06:39:08 pm
Is there anything I can do (Without a chip) to make it play burned games*
You can get a Freeloader disc to play burned games without a modchip, but IMO it's a PITA to load it and swap every time you want to play a game. Get a modchip. XenoGC's are about 10~20 bucks a pop, totally worth it.
Quote from: nurd on September 28, 2008, 06:39:08 pm
WOuld I burn them To Mini DVDs or Mini CDrs?
DVD. The GameCube doesn't read CDs. It won't read any cheapie DVD-R though. You have to find the right dye and probably boost the laser power output slightly.
Quote from: nurd on September 28, 2008, 06:39:08 pm
Can I make it to play PAL games*?
XenoGC allows you to play PAL games in 60Hz. My copy of Soul Calibur II and Super Smash Bros. Melee are PAL and they run fine.
Quote from: nurd on September 28, 2008, 06:39:08 pm
Any other cool things I can do to it?
I bought it to do stuff to it.
Emulators if you don't own an Xbox, and other homebrew stuff. A modchip is a must, a XenoGC is your best bet. Cheap as dirt, easy to install and great compatibility.
If you don't find the right brand of mini DVD-Rs, you'll have to do a case mod to use normal DVD-Rs (or buy a special case for that purpose).
To add a personal touch to your 'cube, change the power LED to another color, like blue, white or green,
Quote from: The Uninvited Gremlin on September 28, 2008, 07:10:34 pm
I have never been a fan of Gamecube, it seemed like a half-assed attempt by Nintendo in my opinion.
I have to disagree. They used mini DVDs rotating at constant angular velocity (CAV) with a carefully crafted data structure to get rid of loading times in almost every situation. The system is small, silent, low power and tough as steel. Even doing casemods and installing modchips are easy things to do. Also the controller is very intuitive and expandability was built in from the start. The only thing that puts me off is the lack of a proper RGB output.
Quote from: 133MHz on September 28, 2008, 07:11:15 pm
Quote from: nurd on September 28, 2008, 06:39:08 pm
I was thinking of making it so it can play japan games, Like Doshin the Giant, and... Um.. Doshin the Giant.
If you only want to play Japanese games, do a region switch mod.
http://www.gamesx.com/importmod/ngcmod.htm (http://www.gamesx.com/importmod/ngcmod.htm)
Quote from: 133MHz on September 28, 2008, 07:18:15 pm
Quote from: The Uninvited Gremlin on September 28, 2008, 07:10:34 pm
I have never been a fan of Gamecube, it seemed like a half-assed attempt by Nintendo in my opinion.
I have to disagree. They used mini DVDs rotating at constant angular velocity (CAV) with a carefully crafted data structure to get rid of loading times in almost every situation. The system is small, silent, low power and tough as steel. Even doing casemods and installing modchips are easy things to do. Also the controller is very intuitive and expandability was built in from the start. The only thing that puts me off is the lack of a proper RGB output.
I saw one at a flea market with 10 games for 10$ and nobody took it; I know because I walked back to the stand as the lady was putting everything away.
So, I think not many people like Gamecube either.
I am still partial to Dreamcast, over Gamecube, PS2 and Xbox. I think Dreamcast was the best of the last gen systems.
Dreamcast ftw!
I think the Dreamcast gets so much love because it's so easy to pirate games for it.
Yeah.
Jet Grind radio is great.
PROBLEM: My fingers get sweaty when I hold plastic, dunno why.
IT makes it VERY hard to play JGR, because my fingers slip and I end up falling, or my thumb slips on the analog stick.
It's great though.
OH GOD MY SEAMAN ARE DEAD ITS BEEN LIKE 9 MONTHS.
Quote from: UglyJoe on September 28, 2008, 07:57:26 pm
I think the Dreamcast gets so much love because it's so easy to pirate games for it.
It also has one of the best game libraries ever. The percentage of good games on the Dreamcast is huge.
Quote from: son_ov_hades on September 28, 2008, 10:01:04 pm
Quote from: UglyJoe on September 28, 2008, 07:57:26 pm
I think the Dreamcast gets so much love because it's so easy to pirate games for it.
It also has one of the best game libraries ever. The percentage of good games on the Dreamcast is huge.
Both reasonings are correct, its perfect for both.
Just in case anyone is interested, here are my thoughts on the thee last gen systems starting with the gamecube:
Nintendo Gamecube:
Pros:
-small design makes it able to be placed anywhere
-the mini-DVD system emilinates almost all load times. Playing the Gamecube is like playing a system of the distant future when somehow loadtimes will be completely abolished.
-Nintendo knows how to make good games. And they made a lot of 'em.
-uses the same AV port as the AV Famicom, SNES and N64. Such a good idea not to change that.
-The controller is extremely well suited to certain games much much better than any other controller could possibly be
-The GameBoy Player is an exellent peice of hardware
-The Wavebird is an exellent alternitive to wired controllers.
Cons:
-mini DVDs can only hold 1.8GB vs standard DVD of 8. Obviously, this meant that in multiplatform releases, the Gamecube version would ALWAYS be missing something.
-The memory cards use an odd "block" system that leaves the user never quite sure how many MB games use. I suppose this isn't a huge deal, but it always did annoy me.
-Nintendo's online apporch was a needless train wreck. They did not support it and as a result, games didn't support it either.
-The controller is NOT well suited as a general purpose controller. The +pad is identical to the one used in the first gen GBA. The C-Stick isn't as percise as either the PS2 or Xbox's right sticks. A is too big and B is too small. As I said, Nintendo did find ways to use it to its advantage in games where the controller made great sense, but it sucked the rest of the time.
-modchips are still rather expenisve for the gamecube and although I don't know a whole lot about homebrew for it, the homebrew scene is rather small.
-there was very little third party support. It was a shame.
-Next to no RPGs. Tales of Symphonia was great, but it was pretty much on its own.
-The controller wires are too short.
-Over time, memory cards have been known to currupt files and make them unplayable.
If I had to give the Gamecube an overall grade, I would give it a B-. It's aged only so-so.
Microsoft Xbox
Pros:
-The most technically impressive of the three
-has the best general use controller. The Controller S that is.
-internal 8-10 GB harddrive eliminates the need for memory cards.
-If you like FPS, you'll be in heaven: the Xbox has the best shooters on any console, bar none except for possibly its successor, the Xbox 360.
-Xbox Live was and is STILL is better than the Playstation Network.
-You can softmod an xbox making it capable of running homebrew and burnt games while not even taking it apart.
-Softmodding is super easy.
-With a modchip, you can install any IDE harddrive you wish. I use a 500 GB harddrive in mine.
-Since the xbox is basically a modified P3, the xbox homebrew sceene is still thriving with new releases every few months.
-The homebrew Xbox Media Centre. Google it. It fucking OWNS.
Cons:
-Its a pretty noisy console. Doesn't make as much noise as the PS3 and 360 do, but its still up there on noise generation.
-The sheer size of the system. The xbox is HUEG.
-The original controller F "duke" is godawful.
-General japanese apathy meant that japanese devolopers tended to avoid making xbox games. however, the japanese xbox games that were made are some of the most bazaare games I've ever played.
-Like the Gamecube, there are next to no RPGs for the Xbox.
-Its fun to hate on the xbox, and those who are in the group of hating it just because the next guy does never got the chance to experience all that the system had and still has to offer.
Grade: B+ I am NOT a microsoft fanboy, the xbox just happens to be the best of the three in an overall sense.
Quote from: satoshi_matrix on October 03, 2008, 12:27:36 am
modchips are still rather expenisve for the gamecube
10~20 bucks for a XenoGC sounds pretty cheap for me. Also easy to install.
Payed 14 dollars for chip and 5 dollars for Gamecube opening tool.
Now I hear that I have to burn the discs differently: Is this true?
133MHz's Tips for GameCube ISO Burning:
1) Burn them with ImgBurn (http://www.imgburn.com) at the lowest speed possible.
2) Don't use cheap DVD-Rs, your 'cube won't read them/get read errors all the time.
3) You may need to adjust laser power output, it's a very simple procedure. You need a digital multimeter and a very small screwdriver.
4) The ISO/GCM file size should be EXACTLY 1.459.978.240 bytes. If not, the image should be fixed with fstfix.
5) If playing Japanese games, you have to dedicate a separate memory card for them since data is stored in another format. Trying to save a file from your Japanese game to your normal memory card will corrupt it.
Its called the Datel Freeloader.
Why am i the first to metion the Freeloader in this thread?
Quote from: YamiMario on October 15, 2008, 10:49:01 am
Why am i the first to metion the Freeloader in this thread?
Quote from: 133MHz on September 28, 2008, 07:11:15 pm
Quote from: nurd on September 28, 2008, 06:39:08 pm
I was thinking of making it so it can play japan games, Like Doshin the Giant, and... Um.. Doshin the Giant.
If you only want to play Japanese games, do a region switch mod.
Quote from: nurd on September 28, 2008, 06:39:08 pm
Is there anything I can do (Without a chip) to make it play burned games*
You can get a Freeloader disc to play burned games without a modchip, but IMO it's a PITA to load it and swap every time you want to play a game. Get a modchip. XenoGC's are about 10~20 bucks a pop, totally worth it.
Not the first, sorry.
Gamecube freeloader works like a charm.
You can't play backups, but imports from any region. Which was good enough for me.
it is kinda sad :(
Gamecubes aren't expenisve at all around where I live anymore....you can get one at a Wal-mart or something with 2 controllers,and a memory card for $75 and games are $20-30. Or if you're a SUPER cheap-ass...then there is a used game store that sells 'em like new with a memory card, 2 controllers and your choice of a game for $30
Lone Gamecubes at this game store (w/ cables) start at $3 ;D
Quote from: gwonammaster on November 26, 2008, 10:51:52 am
The Gamecube is an underrated system and it deserves more respect. It was a great system and Nintendo still focused on hardcore gamers when it was out. Nintendo is now a company that doesn't care anymore about hardcore gamers. They only care about casual gamers now, sad isn't it? :( I miss the old Nintendo.
You forget that Nintendo is a business. They set out to make money. How do you make the greatest amount of money? By trying to appeal to the largest audience. The average gamer is 25 or so now, So they want adult oriented games. The problem is that adult targeted games have taken all sorts of flak by parents because their kids also want to play them. So by making general all-ages casual games, nintendo hopes to target kids and adults alike.
The other thing that Nintendo is doing almost single handedly by making casual games is attracting more women to gaming. Women historically did not play videogames, but that is slowly starting to change due to Nintendo's efforts.
Because of the market share that children and women combined represent, I don't think the "old" Nintendo will ever resurface.
BUMP.
Mostly related, but I am having trouble running backups on my wii.
I have Backup Launcher channel installed, And I have used Two kinds of DVD.
Lightscribe DVD+R, did not work, I didn't expect it to
Sony DVD-R, did not work.
I have read different things about this, some say you must use DVD-Rs, some say DVD+R's have worked, I have no idea what I'm supposed to do at this point. :-\
The .iso's are the correct size, and I am using IMGBurn at 3x speed.
It's a Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition iso.
I'm not sure we should discuss current gen piratery so openly...
Quote from: nurd on January 13, 2009, 04:31:22 pm
I have no idea what I'm supposed to do at this point. :-\
Instead of trying to play your
backup copy, how about you just play your
original copy?
Because then he can't play his insanely modded WarioWare: Twisted!
That would be awesome if someone modded the microgame$ of that game :P
Quote from: manuel on January 22, 2009, 04:09:43 am
I'm not sure we should discuss current gen piratery so openly...
nurd's not giving links to the software much less tell you how to install/run it. He's just saying which brands of DVD-Rs were tested on his console, which is anecdotal evidence and couldn't even be considered as fact since every console is so variable (not every one of them like the same discs).
That's true, but you know how stupid companies can get when it comes to their current gen consoles and copying their stuff.
In favour for nurd I assume he of course has the original, but doesn't want to risk scratching it.
Yeah! nurd is just "taking extra precautions" ;)
Every time I take a Wii or Gamecube game case off the shelf, they all fall over. :P
Also, I like keeping them in their cases; I hate having to switch them out, too.
It would be easier just to be able to take some burned game dvd and not need to care if it gets scratched 'just make another one'.
Why is the NINTENDO GAME CUBE called the GCN and not the NGC?
Because it's the Gamecube, by Nintendo
It was already taken by the Neo-Geo Color. Even though NGPC is the official abbreviation, Nintendo went with GCN.