Just curious on what you guys think of each of the big three systems, if you own any of them, and which one you play the most. I''d be interesting to hear from manuel on his thoughts on the 360 in Japan. Is microsoft trying their hardest to try to market it there or is it something that they don't bother with?
I don't own any yet, but I will get Wii and PS3 this generation.
Why? Games I want are on those 2.
The 360 in Japan? ... Well, it's not that Microsoft doesn't try. They try very hard and IMO they do a good job. They got a good amount of RPGs on the console, they have a competitive price, it just seems not many Japanese people are interested in the 360.
I got a Wii shortly after launch and loved it. I haven't played it much recently due to the lack a good games coming out, but I'm looking forward to some titles.
I really want a PS3 for MGS4 and RE5 and of course blu-ray. The 360 doesn't interest me much at all.
I got a Wii on launch day (Didn't even have to camp-out, reserve, or anything!! Good ol' K-Mart!) and I love it. I play it quite often..True they don't have many good games out right now, but I'm fine with the games I have. Plus all the Virtuole games such as Super Mario RPG, SMB2j, and WiiWare titles such as Strong Bad's Awesome Game for Attractive People ;D
I got the Wii at launch and really it is a great console. This year at christmas I got an Xbox 360 and honestly I am fairly dissapointed with it. You have to buy EVERYTHING apart in pieces for around 50-100$, you don't have any Blu-ray, you can't put anything you want in the HardDiskDrive, and when you play games you absolutely have to copy them to the HDD because if you play with a DVD the console makes so much noise I can't even hear the tv! And to top it all off it seems that these consoles are very easy to break! I seriously regret of ever buying that shit and I should've gone with a PS3 instead. :-\
Yeah, I hear the RRD are fairly common..I wanted one at one time because a few of my friends have them and they've never had problems with them. Plus there are some games that are console exclusives that are very fun...
Buuuuuuuuuuuuuut I wouldn't get one because I'd have to spend so much extra money out of the initial $300 I'd have to spend just to buy it..
None of the games on 360 that I've played have been that fun.
Played the RE5 demo for 360 at friend's house, the controls are shit.
PS3 version will most definantly be better.
I got a wii before launch at it was the most fun I've had with a new console, period. I still play it every now and then too but I think in reality there's only a handful of good retail releases, I think the hardware itself is not aging well. Having said that with the money that Nintendo have made from every one of these sold they've not only saved their company but they can put alot of that back into R&D and have something very popular and very advanced for the next hardware run.
Let's wait and see.
Myself, I saved for a long time to get a PS3 only to realise it's really not good value and I'd rather pick up a bargain 360, making the most of its popularity while it's here. It has the strongest community, best online and probably the best range of great games compared to PS3. Most multi platform games look best on 360 mainly as they're developed on it as lead platform and then 'ported' to ps3 if that makes sense.
I'll only pick up a few games for it like Bioshock, Prince of Persia and a couple others - I admit though I got it only for street fighter 4. I'm a bigger street fighter fan than I am a nintendo fan!
You can get Bioshock and PoP on the PC too
...and street fighter 4, but my PC is not up to that and you don't get the same community aspect. Besides any of that, I have a strong disdain for PC gaming!
I only own the ps3 out of the big three mentioned. However, I am currently borrowing my girlfriends Wii. haha. The ps3 gets most of my attention I guess. I have the 60gb model ps3, so I can play all of my favorite ps2 and psx games on it. The newer ps3 consoles that emulated ps2/psx have had it disabled I've heard. The Wii however is extremely fun game console. It is a bit frustrating when your girlfriend pwns you at virtual bowling though, lol. But Mario Kart Wii is definitely worth it; I pwn at that game! I'd like to get more games of my taste to play on her wii as the games she owns are mostly stuff she is interested in.
I have a Wii and a 360 and so far I only have one reason to want a PS3 (Valkyria Chronicles). I have to say tho that most of the games I've played get old quick. I play them for a week and that's about it. The longest I've spent was on Eternal Sonata and that's b/c I played it for a week, put it down, then picked it up months later to spend another week on it! LOL
I have about the same problem. Most games become too old too quick.
Also, for buying a new console I need at least 10 titles I want to warrant a purchase.
That's one thing I lucked out on. I traded AN EXTRA (cuz people actually chew me out for this til I tell them it was an extra I got in a lot) Dreamcast & a bunch of DC games for the 360, and traded some games & an extra PSP for the Wii.
And seriously, I know the Dreamcast is much more fun than a 360, but even if it WASN'T an extra, there's no way I'd keep a cheap ass system and not trade it for an expensive (at the time) system, particularly when it's so easy to get another Dreamcast, for next to nothing. Hell, I recently got a Dreamcast FOR FREE off Craigslist.
So yeah, I wouldn't have paid for either console. I think in both cases I paid around $50... maybe in the case of the Wii around $100. Granted the stuff I traded for the Wii was worth $250 if sold, but I didn't pay that much for it.
Well i like the Wii most then i have to say PS3 and then xbox 360
I choosed the wii first because of that it have the best games.
I choosed The PS3 second because that it have the bes graphic but not many good games (i know GTA 4 is good)
Last but least the Xbox 360, "Why?" you might ask. and im ranking it as one of the worst consoles ever BECAUSE IT BREAKS INTO FUCKING PIECES AFTER 1 MONTH OF USE!!!!!
I have none next gen consoles but I will probably pick up a ps3 in the near future because of RE5! That game is going to be awesome! I was thinking about the Wii but there aren't that many titles out there to keep me interested. The Virtual Console games are nice but I have a famicom if I want to play any old games anyways....I'll nee more than MM9 to get a wii....
I've had a Wii since the January after it launched. There is a bad signal:noise ratio with the games, but when you strip all the junk away I can still rattle off a list of Wii games I still want to get. The problem with the Wii is that the technical aspects really do feel like I could be playing on a Game Cube. Especially something like an RPG that's not taking advantage of the Wii controller. However, I can't even scrounge up enough 360 or PS3 games that I'd want to play to convince me to get either system. I've even looked through the Japanese lineups, and that doesn't even help. 360 has a couple of JRPGs on it like Tales of Vesperia, but not enough quality ones to buy a console over. And I don't really like the style of RPG that Oblivion or Fallout 3 fall into, nor do I like the whole FPS scene. The Japanese seem to be shunning the 360, which means they'll have to tilt toward the PS3 for the true next-gen experience. And where the Japanese go, I go, since I mostly want to play my JRPGs and anime tie ins. But... where are the friggin games at? My friend got a PS3 for Christmas and was just telling me last night how he's barely touched it because he can't find games he likes, compared to the PS2 where any given trip to the game shop would turn up a couple of new titles.
So, basically, the Wii has good games but doesn't come off as a real next gen console. The 360 has lots of games, but not many I'm interested in. And the PS3... just doesn't have games at all. This, honestly, may be the worst console generation since the N64/PS1/Saturn. I am eager to see what Nintendo will do with its regained market dominance though. The Wii's successor, now that its technology is proven, should be something to behold.
This is just a general response for those of you that dislike the 360: The 360 does do a lot of FPS (Americans love FPS) but it also does a lot of other games that don't get noticed in the sea of FPS.
Specifically for Shockwave, if you don't like FPS or the sand-box style RPG like Fallout 3 (for whatever reason, you must be crazy! jk) there are still plenty of good games to check out:
off the top of my head, I can think of
Armored Core 4
Beautiful Katamari
Burnout Paradise
Blazing Angels 2 Secret Weapons of WWII
Dead or Alive 4
Dead Rising
Earth Defense Force 2017
Fable II
Lost Planet Extreme Condition
Ninja Gaiden II
Soul Calibur IV
Tenchu Z
Tales of Vesperia
and don't forget that the 360 is also backwards compatible with many of the best Xbox 1 games, many of which can still hold their own epically when compared to the Wii.
just to name a few Xbox 1 games worth checking out for the 360:
Dead or Alive Ultimate
Dreamfall the Longest Journey
Guilty Gear X2 Reloaded
Outrun 2006
As well as all that, there are some great games on the Xbox Live Arcade worth checking out.
Finally, for those who worry or have experienced the Xbox 360 hardware failure, the infamous Red Ring of Death, this is preventable and more importantly, FIXABLE!!
First thing you should note that Elite systems made after about the middle of 2007 and Core systems made starting in 2008 will not experience this problem due to a redesign.
The cause of the RRoD is overheating. The first generations of the 360 can experience a build up of heat overtime that continues to increase until the error occurs. It happened to me. after three years.
The solution I went with was to take apart my system and apply a heatgun (a really powerful blow dryer used to remove paint) to remelt the solder balls under the CPU and GPU. There are a few tutorials on how to do this online. Once I knew what to do, the entire process from start to finish took about an hour, and the majority of that was letting the 360 cool down! Thus, the RRoD is not a death sentience.
Once fixed, the 360 should never Red Ring again!
Wii: I think that the Wii is the best and strongest of the three current generation systems. Then again, I'm a Nintendo fan before I'm a fan of Microsoft, Sony or Sega, so take what I say with a grain of salt. The downloadable WiiWare, while pricey, is also really cool. Mega Man 9 is worth it to me alone. Game wise, you'll get a LOT of cool games, like Animal Crossing, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Super Mario Galaxy, and of course the incredibly fun Wii Sports. My only complaints are that I am NOT a fan of the Wii-mote system -- call me crazy, but a video game loses its fun when you have to move your arm in every different and stupid direction to get a character to move. We had someone like that years ago, it was the Power Glove, and it sucked then. I don't care what anyone says, I will NOT get used to this stupid Wiimote crap, and will do my best to stick with an actual remote controller, thank you very much.
XBox 360: To be honest, I actual enjoy playing games on this system. I am a sucker for NBA games, and Marvel: Ultimate Alliance, which has been my current favorite game at this point. The only problem is that XBox Live makes no sense to me, and I cannot hook that shit up for the life of me. Then again, I don't care too much to play online, so whatever. And on the whole "Red Ring of Death" controversy, I have to say this: no video game system should ever have such an issue that you actually have to open up your fucking system and use a heatgun. My first system was about a year old when it happened, and I barely ever used the damn thing. The whole problem was just the reason why I can't stand new hardware: you get lazy manufacturers that don't give a shit about something as common as a system OVERFREAKIN' HEATING!
PS3: The biggest appeal is that it has BluRay, so you don't have to spend a bunch of money on what is the crappiest current generation media player I've ever experienced. And I've seen and used a Betamax player. It makes the movie sound louder... oooohhh shit AMAZING I WANT TO SPEND 63543265354763547 DOLLARSOMG. Who cares if a movie sounds louder and more like in a theater? Quite frankly, if it sounds good and the picture is decent, it's good to me. I just don't understand the appeal of spending extra money for a format that makes things sound annoyingly loud. But maybe that's just me.
Quote from: satoshi_matrix on February 01, 2009, 12:14:17 pm
the infamous Red Ring of Death, this is preventable
That if preventable means getting a free heat gun with your Xbox 360 purchase.
I'd like to make a couple of points...
Quote from: satoshi_matrix on February 01, 2009, 12:14:17 pm
Armored Core 4
Beautiful Katamari
Burnout Paradise
Blazing Angels 2 Secret Weapons of WWII
Dead or Alive 4
Dead Rising
Earth Defense Force 2017
Fable II
Lost Planet Extreme Condition
Ninja Gaiden II
Soul Calibur IV
Tenchu Z
Tales of Vesperia
Most of those games are on or sequels to games that were original to other companies/systems and released on other systems (PS3)
Quote from: satoshi_matrix on February 01, 2009, 12:14:17 pm
and don't forget that the 360 is also backwards compatible with many of the best Xbox 1 games, many of which can still hold their own
Not
all games are compatible, and that's also only if you buy a certain kind of 360 I believe..You can play
all Gamecube games on the Wii
Quote from: satoshi_matrix on February 01, 2009, 12:14:17 pm
Finally, for those who worry or have experienced the Xbox 360 hardware failure, the infamous Red Ring of Death, this is preventable and more importantly, FIXABLE!!
First thing you should note that Elite systems made after about the middle of 2007 and Core systems made starting in 2008 will not experience this problem due to a redesign.
The cause of the RRoD is overheating. The first generations of the 360 can experience a build up of heat overtime that continues to increase until the error occurs. It happened to me. after three years.
The solution I went with was to take apart my system and apply a heatgun (a really powerful blow dryer used to remove paint) to remelt the solder balls under the CPU and GPU. There are a few tutorials on how to do this online. Once I knew what to do, the entire process from start to finish took about an hour, and the majority of that was letting the 360 cool down! Thus, the RRoD is not a death sentience.
Once fixed, the 360 should never Red Ring again!
If I bought a 360 at launch, I sure as hell wouldn't want to shell out
another $250-$400 for a console I already have.
If I instead choose to fix the console, I have two options. Sending it to M$ or fixing it myself with tools that I may not already have, and have to go buy those. If I send it to M$, it will take a little under a
month to fix and will cost money. ( The amount I'm not sure)
If I fix it myself, I may have to buy tools, and it may not be safe, plus, there isn't even a guarantee that I'll only have to do this once.
Also, to set up HD and Xbox Live
on top of any arcade games I want to buy...will cost me
more moneyIf I buy a Wii, I don't have to worry about the RRoD, Nintendo Customer Service is easier to work with, and (In my case) costs less (I got my Wii repaired for free)
Online play is free (for now), so all I have to pay for is Virtual Console games
IMO, this is how it goes
1. Wii
2. PS3
3. Xbox 360
Oh, and one more thing...
PS3 and 360 games are more expensive than Wii games :D
QuoteIf I bought a 360 at launch, I sure as hell wouldn't want to shell out another $250-$400 for a console I already have.
Microsoft will fix/replace your 360 so long as you don't void the warranty. Which is why you should NEVER open up your 360 and use a heat gun on it. (BTW, this whole deal w/ M$ is a LOT better than how Sony handled the DREs with their PS2.)
My friend's 360 is already showing signs of dying....man I'm just waiting the call from him saying "My xbox is showing the damn red ring of death!!"
Everyone I know that has a 360 has gotten the red ring at least once.
Quote from: son_ov_hades on February 02, 2009, 11:47:53 am
Everyone I know that has a 360 has gotten the red ring at least once.
Well you know ME and I haven't. =p Tho I'm sure you meant IRL. Yeah it's pretty crappy that they sent out so many ticking time bombs, but I gotta wonder if this is worse than the other failures we've seen in the past or if it's just gotten more press or what. (Both the PS2 and the Dreamcast, as well as I guess the PS1, had high failure rates at launch.)
The Wii will come out on top, hype or not. Nintendo just make quality games. Master Chief can't compete with Zelda or Mario, and neither can the Final Fantasy series. I own only nintendo consoles as of today, I got rid of the xbox because it's just garabage, I get bored with it too easy. Nintendo keeps me in, and that's why they will stay on top for a while: they know how to play their cards, they've been around before sony and microsoft entered the console market so nintendo has an advantage. Good games come to those who wait, which is why I am okay with there being no zelda or mario game this year.
Quote from: Rob64 on February 02, 2009, 02:21:24 pm
they know how to play their cards
Of course, they've been playing cards since the 19th century ::)
Very funny 133MHz, but they beat out Sega and their b.s., so they could posibly beat out sony and microsoft at some point.
Quote from: mobiusclimber on February 02, 2009, 12:43:14 pm
Quote from: son_ov_hades on February 02, 2009, 11:47:53 am
Everyone I know that has a 360 has gotten the red ring at least once.
Well you know ME and I haven't. =p Tho I'm sure you meant IRL. Yeah it's pretty crappy that they sent out so many ticking time bombs, but I gotta wonder if this is worse than the other failures we've seen in the past or if it's just gotten more press or what. (Both the PS2 and the Dreamcast, as well as I guess the PS1, had high failure rates at launch.)
Yeah I meant IRL, though most of them got the 360 shortly after it came out.
Quote from: mobiusclimber on February 02, 2009, 09:03:47 am
QuoteIf I bought a 360 at launch, I sure as hell wouldn't want to shell out another $250-$400 for a console I already have.
Microsoft will fix/replace your 360 so long as you don't void the warranty. Which is why you should NEVER open up your 360 and use a heat gun on it. (BTW, this whole deal w/ M$ is a LOT better than how Sony handled the DREs with their PS2.)
Nintendo is still better :P
i have a Wii and i love it...
there are some really fun games to play on it, but sometimes the wiimote can get laggy with the tv sometimes....
as for the other two systems i feel that the PS3 is the better choice....
Why? because i looked at the many different games from both systems that interested me, and i found that most of them can be played on both PS3 & 360, but there were some PS3 only games that really caught my attention (NobyNoby Boy coming soon)...
Don't forget LBP ;)
LBP sucks ass :P
well, all the dang moderation does anyway!!
- If people are worried about dodgy xboxes, the new [JASPER] units are virtually ringproof. I'll be getting one of those, you can tell them apart easy enough buy a code on the back, you don't have to open the box or nothin'.
I was gonna get a PS3 for ages but I'll wait till the slim one arrives if it ever does. I just realsied 90% of my friends are on xbox and I can't pass that up just to have blu-ray!
I keep telling myself that one day I will get an XBox360. It has a lot of titles I like on there...
Silent Hill 5
Resident Evil 5
There's a new LOTR
Dead Rising
Left for Dead
Bioshock
Too Human
Overlord
Halo 3
Conan
Elder Scrolls: Oblivion
Fable 2
Plenty of others given time.
I have a hard time justifying the initial layout for the console... and then have a harder time justifying $60 a pop per game. I can buy TONS of classic games for 60 bones if I shop right. Though I imagine that one of these days I will get one... just as soon as Micro$oft finds a way to keep them from turning into expensive paperweights.
I don't own any of the new systems past PS2, and never will. I see their merit and cannot deny that they give today's player the scope of interactivity that just wasn't there 25 years or more ago... but I just can't plug into them. I've tried and it doesn't work at all. For me, *The Arcade* style of gaming is what I grew up with, and evolved further with the console gaming. The types of games coming out today on all three current systems just don't call to me, no matter how good looking/high resolution. I want something I can plug into for 45 minutes to possibly 2 hours max, then be done with it.
I see the Xbox 360 as the worst console ever manufactured. It's kick ass but unreliable. The PS3 is a wonder machine but one that doesn't do anymore (in my opinion) than the X360... and the Wii is purely of it's own devices, but little more than GameCube 2.0, and honestly, I didn't have any problems with my GC when it was out. Nintendo just had to repackage their (then) existing technology with a slight jump up and throw in a gimmick. In reality, none of these systems are NEXT GENERATION at all, it's just more of the same. When we've got StarTrek *Holodec* type deals or some sort of SimStim William Gibson (Neuromancer) type deals... then we'll have arrived at a true paradigm shift in technologies that is the true harbinger of "next gen". I probably won't give a damn when that time comes though... the older I get the more I just stick with Famicom, Super Famicom, Mega Drive, Atari 7800 and Neo:Geo. I won't fault anyone else for liking the new stuff at all, and of course the generations coming up today probably couldn't be arsed to play the games of most of our youth here, unless of course they come up in a household where they grow up playing it too.
Technically, these are all next gen consoles (Except maybe the 360) because they have their high points. The PS3 can play Blu-Ray discs. Although this technology may possibly become obsolete to DVDs within a few years, if not months..it still represents something of a new quality in display...
The Wii, I will admit, is kind of an overpriced gimmick, but nonetheless next gen, because it's the first to use infrared technology in such a big way.
The 360 was the first HD console, that's next gen if you ask me.
Augh. 360 has awful controller.
It is loud and ugly.
I don't think it has any great games. A few are ok, but...
Meh.
Yeah, it was the first HD console I guess...
But nurd is right, it's loud as hell...especially if you (surprise) use the HD cables
Nintendo needs to GET OUT OF THE MAINSTREAM. If they stay there, they'll only become more obliged to cater to the casual gamer. It's sad. D:
If they don't though, they'll lose profits overall :-\
It is sad though..some most of the games for the Wii are awful.
Quote from: Rogles on February 22, 2009, 07:22:59 pm
Nintendo needs to GET OUT OF THE MAINSTREAM. If they stay there, they'll only become more obliged to cater to the casual gamer. It's sad. D:
WORD!
BTW, you're username wouldn't have anything to do with "King Rogles" from the VALIS series would it?
His YT username is RoglesOfCaledonia if that says anything.