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Family Computer => Famicom / Disk System => Topic started by: nintendodork on February 04, 2009, 03:52:48 pm

Title: Black Box Conveter Help
Post by: nintendodork on February 04, 2009, 03:52:48 pm
Okay, so I got a Stack-Up cart today, and it had a converter inside...now here's my problem..
I've heard various things about how to actually use these things in a NES..I've heard from some people that I need to modify it..and others say that I simply need to cut off the tabs..and others say I don't need to do anything but replace the original board with a Famicom game of my choice...so I would like one sure answer...
Title: Re: Black Box Conveter Help
Post by: son_ov_hades on February 04, 2009, 03:56:32 pm
I already told you how do this. It's a sure answer I've been doing it for months. I'll take a pic.
Title: Re: Black Box Conveter Help
Post by: nintendodork on February 04, 2009, 03:57:02 pm
THANK YOU
Title: Re: Black Box Conveter Help
Post by: son_ov_hades on February 04, 2009, 04:17:44 pm
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e121/son_ov_hades/IMG_0912.jpg)
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e121/son_ov_hades/IMG_0909.jpg)
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e121/son_ov_hades/IMG_0908.jpg)
Title: Re: Black Box Conveter Help
Post by: nintendodork on February 04, 2009, 04:23:02 pm
And you say you can just yank off the tabs with pliers?
Title: Re: Black Box Conveter Help
Post by: son_ov_hades on February 04, 2009, 04:25:40 pm
They broke off very easily with a set of lock pliers. If you're worried just flip it around.
Title: Re: Black Box Conveter Help
Post by: nintendodork on February 04, 2009, 04:31:54 pm
I tried that but for some reason, the connector and the pins won't line up straight..
Title: Re: Black Box Conveter Help
Post by: son_ov_hades on February 04, 2009, 04:33:54 pm
It's the same on both sides. The black box accepts 60 pin on both sides.
Title: Re: Black Box Conveter Help
Post by: nintendodork on February 04, 2009, 04:49:03 pm
I think there's something wrong with mine then..I don't wanna put to much force on it..but no matter how I try putting it in on that side, it seems the box is just a little bit too small...which concerns me, does anyone know?  Or are they usually like this...? 
Title: Re: Black Box Conveter Help
Post by: son_ov_hades on February 04, 2009, 05:48:56 pm
I think you're being a bit too timid, you have to really force it in there.
Title: Re: Black Box Conveter Help
Post by: nintendodork on February 04, 2009, 06:14:02 pm
Okay, I got the converter in the other side, but no matter how hard I push, I can't get the Famicom game to go into the other side of the converter
(http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp320/nintendodork1/Famicom/SDC10445.jpg)
And yes, I realize that I put the game in the wrong way, but I tried the other way too and it just does the same thing
Title: Re: Black Box Conveter Help
Post by: son_ov_hades on February 04, 2009, 06:47:09 pm
It's tricky but you can do it. You have to slide the whole thing in at once, if you do one side at a time it won't fit. Remember that this converter wasn't meant for this so you have to sort coax it in.
Title: Re: Black Box Conveter Help
Post by: 2A03 on February 04, 2009, 06:47:46 pm
Try filing down the sides of the converter, that's what I did with mine.
Title: Re: Black Box Conveter Help
Post by: vgthing on February 04, 2009, 07:53:32 pm
I sanded the sides of the black box so games would fit better. Then I cut up a NES game and used it as a casing. I can post a pic of the finished project.

EDIT: Here it is. I scanned it a while ago. (You can see part of Moai Kun's box...)
I can take more pics and give you tips on how to make it if need be.

http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww176/vgthing/Untitled.png (http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww176/vgthing/Untitled.png)
Title: Re: Black Box Conveter Help
Post by: Tjibynn on February 05, 2009, 12:19:34 pm
Just wondering... Is there a special reason why you use a stripped Stack-Up cart.
Why don`t use a cartridge/converter like this ??

(http://pici.se/thumbs/t_rsqXtURTZ.gif) (http://pici.se/360073)
Title: Re: Black Box Conveter Help
Post by: nintendodork on February 05, 2009, 01:33:46 pm
Welllllll.........
Pirated converters are kinda hard to find..in the U.S, that is...
Pirated converters are...well..pirated, so they don't have a 100% success rate like the Stack-Up ones do because the Stack-Up ones are made by Nintendo themselves..
Also I'll bet this was cheaper than any pirated converter because I got it in a pawn shop for 50 cents :D
Title: Re: Black Box Conveter Help
Post by: son_ov_hades on February 05, 2009, 01:52:51 pm
Plus Gyromite and Stack Up are pretty shitty games.
Title: Re: Black Box Conveter Help
Post by: nintendodork on February 05, 2009, 01:55:56 pm
I couldn't play Stack-Up to save my life, and Gyromite is kind of a nice game, about the same fun as Wrecking Crew and it has a cool gimmick...it was one of the first games for the NES, so you can't expect to much ;)
Title: Re: Black Box Conveter Help
Post by: son_ov_hades on February 05, 2009, 02:02:20 pm
SMB, Donkey Kong, 10 Yard Fight, Duck Hunt, Excite Bike, Ice Climber, Kung Fu, and Wild Gunman beg to differ.
Title: Re: Black Box Conveter Help
Post by: UglyJoe on February 05, 2009, 02:18:14 pm
Quote from: son_ov_hades on February 05, 2009, 01:52:51 pm
Plus Gyromite and Stack Up are pretty shitty games.


Hey now, Gyromite is a good puzzle game.  Stack Up isn't without its merits, but, unlike Gyromite, it's pretty much unplayable without ROB.
Title: Re: Black Box Conveter Help
Post by: Tupin on February 05, 2009, 02:26:11 pm
Hmm, I really wouldn't have ruined a Stack-Up cartridge because of its rarity, especially since you can open them with a flat-head screwdriver.

Gyromite is fun if you can play with a friend.

Title: Re: Black Box Conveter Help
Post by: son_ov_hades on February 05, 2009, 02:29:08 pm
Quote from: UglyJoe on February 05, 2009, 02:18:14 pm
Quote from: son_ov_hades on February 05, 2009, 01:52:51 pm
Plus Gyromite and Stack Up are pretty shitty games.


Hey now, Gyromite is a good puzzle game.  Stack Up isn't without its merits, but, unlike Gyromite, it's pretty much unplayable without ROB.


If I had a ROB they'd be cool, but otherwise they suck imo.
Title: Re: Black Box Conveter Help
Post by: nintendodork on February 05, 2009, 02:36:31 pm
WELL THERE'S YOUR PROBLEM
:P
Title: Re: Black Box Conveter Help
Post by: Tupin on February 05, 2009, 02:46:59 pm
Just used a black box converter to play Popeye's English Game. All I had to do was flip it around and jam it into the cart.

I'm using a Retro Duo, so it was easy for it to work. I'm still using my pirate converter for Famicom games, though.
Title: Re: Black Box Conveter Help
Post by: nintendodork on February 05, 2009, 03:03:12 pm
Ok, I got it into the other side, and Hades was right all along...I was just being a wimp :D
It feels like it mangles the pins almost, but I don't see any damage anywhere...
But nonetheless, pulling carts OFF is a PIA, so any ideas on how to make/install a proper ribbon/wire/string/etc
Title: Re: Black Box Conveter Help
Post by: 133MHz on February 05, 2009, 03:05:49 pm
Quote from: Tjibynn on February 05, 2009, 12:19:34 pm
Just wondering... Is there a special reason why you use a stripped Stack-Up cart.
Why don`t use a cartridge/converter like this ??


The Stack-Up converter contains a legitimate Nintendo Lockout chip instead of a Lockout killer circuit like most pirate converters. This means instant bootup!

Well... that's a reason
Title: Re: Black Box Conveter Help
Post by: son_ov_hades on February 05, 2009, 03:07:25 pm
Get a top loader, problem solved.
Title: Re: Black Box Conveter Help
Post by: 133MHz on February 05, 2009, 03:08:41 pm
Or cut Pin 4 from the CIC inside the console.
Title: Re: Black Box Conveter Help
Post by: Tjibynn on February 06, 2009, 12:50:45 am
Ok..now i know.
but my "pirate" converter are always workiing fine for me, so I stuck up with them....

//Tjibynn
Title: Re: Black Box Conveter Help
Post by: Steev on February 06, 2009, 09:01:30 am
Quote from: Tjibynn on February 05, 2009, 12:19:34 pm
Just wondering... Is there a special reason why you use a stripped Stack-Up cart.
Why don`t use a cartridge/converter like this ??

(http://pici.se/thumbs/t_rsqXtURTZ.gif) (http://pici.se/360073)


Gold honeybee! Yummy ;D I have one hehe