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Misc. => Other Gaming => Topic started by: nintendodork on March 16, 2009, 06:07:51 pm

Title: Cuttle Cart
Post by: nintendodork on March 16, 2009, 06:07:51 pm
Anyone know how to get one of these now?  It seems impossible to find them, and from what I've read, they're out of production.
Any additional info is also gladly accepted :)
Title: Re: Cuttle Cart
Post by: Blue Protoman on March 16, 2009, 06:29:13 pm
Rare, rare, rare.  Only 204 were produced.
Title: Re: Cuttle Cart
Post by: Rogles on March 16, 2009, 07:20:54 pm
What's a cuttle cart?
Title: Re: Cuttle Cart
Post by: nurd on March 16, 2009, 07:21:55 pm
For running Atari game roms through audio thing. it would be cool to have.
Title: Re: Cuttle Cart
Post by: Rogles on March 16, 2009, 07:22:32 pm
Ah, just googled it. Looks cool.
Title: Re: Cuttle Cart
Post by: nintendodork on March 16, 2009, 07:35:40 pm
And, there's also a Cuttle Cart 2 and 3...
2 is for the 7800; it plays all 2600 games and 7800 games..except for Pitfall 2 (of course)
3 is for the Intelevision; it plays all Intelevsion games, 2600 games, AND 7800 games....except for Pitfall 2..

I know CC2 was $200 originally, I don't know about the others though.
Title: Re: Cuttle Cart
Post by: shoggoth80 on March 16, 2009, 11:40:03 pm
"For running Atari game roms through audio thing. it would be cool to have"

Ummm.... NO.
That would be the Starpath/Arcadia Supercharger.... which is neat in its own right yes... you can get the whoe game collection for that thing on CD, which is very convenient. Saves the tapes.

The Cutle Cart, and CC2 are basically Atari Flashcarts...I believe one of them was for the 7800, but I could be wrong there. Tough to find... not many were made, and those that have them tend to not give them up easily. When they do pop up, they go high.... last one I saw I think broke the $200 mark on eBay. Very cool if you can find them... but definitely something you are going to have to throw down some serious bucks for.
Title: Re: Cuttle Cart
Post by: 133MHz on March 17, 2009, 12:34:50 am
For those serious bucks you could also get all the necessary equipment to build your own Atari 2600/7800 multicarts.
Title: Re: Cuttle Cart
Post by: nintendodork on March 17, 2009, 04:07:37 pm
Quote from: shoggoth80 on March 16, 2009, 11:40:03 pm
I believe one of them was for the 7800, but I could be wrong there. Tough to find... not many were made, and those that have them tend to not give them up easily. When they do pop up, they go high.... last one I saw I think broke the $200 mark on eBay. Very cool if you can find them...
Yeah, the CC2 is for the 7800

Quote from: 133MHz on March 17, 2009, 12:34:50 am
build your own Atari 2600/7800 multicarts.
I've actually been thinking about that, but I have little soldering skills, and I don't know how to make one.
Title: Re: Cuttle Cart
Post by: manuel on March 17, 2009, 08:55:51 pm
That's the problem. 133MHz thinks everybody is as good with tools as he is.  :'(
Title: Re: Cuttle Cart
Post by: nurd on March 17, 2009, 09:00:19 pm
Quote from: shoggoth80 on March 16, 2009, 11:40:03 pm
Ummm.... NO.


'" It allows one to load ROM images (games) into an Atari 2600 using an audio interface such as a CD player""

From http://schells.com/cuttlecart.shtml
Title: Re: Cuttle Cart
Post by: manuel on March 17, 2009, 09:34:36 pm
That's neat.
I wonder how many ROMs would fit on a CD...
Title: Re: Cuttle Cart
Post by: 133MHz on March 17, 2009, 09:36:41 pm
Atari 2600 ROMs are really small (like 2 or 4 KB average), with a good audio encoding my guess would be a lot.
Title: Re: Cuttle Cart
Post by: manuel on March 17, 2009, 09:38:58 pm
But the CDs would have to be burned like audio CDs, right? So we're talking 80 minutes. How many minutes or seconds would a ROM of let's say 4kb take up?
Title: Re: Cuttle Cart
Post by: shoggoth80 on March 18, 2009, 08:28:53 am
Really, will the CC allow you to do something from CD too? I wonder if it has some extra RAM built in there or something as well. I thought someone was confusing the Supercharger cassette programs/Stella CD, and the Supercharger unit with the Cuttle Cart. apparently, I mixed up some of the CC's cpapabilities.

I KNOW that the Supercharger loads games from program tapes, which I am guessing translates from audio waves. I have a supercharger, and a modest stack of tape games... so this device is no myth.
The disc I have of Supercharger games was professionally pressed... it's called "Stella Gets a New Brain" you can find it for about $5... can't remember the site of the guy who put it together...but you can google it. I am GUESSING that you could copy the disc, or find an image and burn it as well.
Title: Re: Cuttle Cart
Post by: nintendodork on March 18, 2009, 01:27:27 pm
Quote from: shoggoth80 on March 18, 2009, 08:28:53 am
Really, will the CC allow you to do something from CD too?
Quote from: nurd on March 17, 2009, 09:00:19 pm
It allows one to load ROM images (games) into an Atari 2600 using an audio interface such as a CD player
It's the Dreamcast of Atari games, so to speak :P
Title: Re: Cuttle Cart
Post by: Blue Protoman on March 18, 2009, 02:12:05 pm
And Intellivision, if you have a CC3.
Title: Re: Cuttle Cart
Post by: TanookiSuitSam on March 18, 2009, 04:25:47 pm
Quote from: manuel on March 17, 2009, 09:38:58 pm
But the CDs would have to be burned like audio CDs, right? So we're talking 80 minutes. How many minutes or seconds would a ROM of let's say 4kb take up?


Considering a 80 black is usually hold about 700mb, it's safe to assume you could probably fit the entire library on one CD ROM.

Maybe 2
Title: Re: Cuttle Cart
Post by: Blue Protoman on March 18, 2009, 04:30:33 pm
You probably could fit the whole library one one CD.  This is 4k per game fitting into a 700MB CD.

That is, the entire commercial, 2600, non-homebrew library.  New 2600 games are being developed all the time.  Plus, if you use a CC3 on the Intellivision, you have 2600, 7800, and Intellivision games at your disposal.  That might not fit on a whole CD.
Title: Re: Cuttle Cart
Post by: shoggoth80 on March 19, 2009, 01:09:34 pm
I think some of the more interesting games for the 2600 exist due to the homebrew video game hobby. There are a million that I would love to add to my collection, not the least of which being Dark Mage, Venture 2: The Abysmal Abyss, Fall Down, Starfire, and Skeleton +.

I am not entirely sure how many Atari ROMS will fit on a 700Mb disc... I don't know how big the entire current library is, but I imagine that you could get close to the whole thing. Maybe split it up between two discs... I mean really, what have you got to lose at that point?
Title: Re: Cuttle Cart
Post by: UglyJoe on March 19, 2009, 01:13:42 pm
Keep in mind these devices aren't loading roms the way an emulator loads roms.  The roms have to be converted to an audio format and (presumably) burned as an audio CD.  The filesize of the audio for that 4kb rom will far exceed 4kb.