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Misc. => Other Gaming => Topic started by: Mindfreak on May 04, 2009, 03:19:13 pm

Title: What if Final Fantasy VII was on the N64 ?
Post by: Mindfreak on May 04, 2009, 03:19:13 pm
I heard that FFVII was originally planned for the N64...but it would have been expensive to SqaureSoft to manufacture the carts...so they moved to the Playstation...CDs were cheaper to make....

BUT


What if FFVII was for the N64 ?

do you think it would be the same...or had the same effect it has today ?

Thanks for your time.
Title: Re: What if Final Fantasy VII was on the N64 ?
Post by: nintendodork on May 04, 2009, 03:22:48 pm
It would probably better, since the PSX was only a 32-bit system...

Now if we're talking Animal Crossing, it would be exactly the same ::)

On FFVII, I'd probably just expect better graphics, and maybe a few extra features.
Title: Re: What if Final Fantasy VII was on the N64 ?
Post by: MaxXimus on May 04, 2009, 03:34:38 pm
No real FMV though.

Plus lol at the thought of a multiple cartridge game :P
Title: Re: What if Final Fantasy VII was on the N64 ?
Post by: Blue Protoman on May 04, 2009, 03:46:06 pm
It'd require a memory expansion pack.
Title: Re: What if Final Fantasy VII was on the N64 ?
Post by: Rogles on May 04, 2009, 05:04:27 pm
http://lostlevels.org/200510/

I found this pretty interesting.
Title: Re: What if Final Fantasy VII was on the N64 ?
Post by: japanfreak on May 06, 2009, 11:35:52 am
It should be a lot faster... DAMN YOUR LOADTIME PSX! Seriously, I think much of the gameplay is lost by the loading times...
Title: Re: What if Final Fantasy VII was on the N64 ?
Post by: Blue Protoman on May 06, 2009, 12:03:20 pm
Depends on the frequency and length of load times.  I.E., for Brawl, it's not much of a problem, IMO.
Title: Re: What if Final Fantasy VII was on the N64 ?
Post by: Lorfarius on May 07, 2009, 02:41:14 am
Wasn't there a mockup video made of an N64 FF game at one point by Square? With all the characters in 3D?
Title: Re: What if Final Fantasy VII was on the N64 ?
Post by: manuel on May 07, 2009, 05:57:16 am
I think there is such a video, maybe even on youtube.
Title: Re: What if Final Fantasy VII was on the N64 ?
Post by: japanfreak on May 07, 2009, 07:55:37 am
Brawl doesnt have that long loading times as the psx seriously, a normal level takes 5x more the time then a fds game that needs to start up.
Title: Re: What if Final Fantasy VII was on the N64 ?
Post by: FamicomFreak on May 10, 2009, 11:38:47 pm
Final Fantasy VII doesn't have much loading time you know. Have you even played the game? So what if games take sometime to load? You cry over losing precious seconds.....well guess what all new consoles ended up using discs which means yeah loading time! 
Title: Re: What if Final Fantasy VII was on the N64 ?
Post by: satoshi_matrix on May 11, 2009, 11:35:50 am
In the mid 90's, square and nintendo had a bit of a falling out and really didn't want anything to do with one another. Due to much stronger hardware, cheaper development coasts and of the course, CD media, the playstation was the clear choice for the seventh game. An N64 version could not be done, at least not without severe cuts and reduction of quality. CD media allowed games to contain full CD-quality audio, voice acting, cutscenes, longer and bigger games not limited to compression sizes. My personal feeling is that if Final Fantasy VII had come out for the N64, it would have been Final Fantasy VIII for the PSX that would be the one remembered as revolutionary today.

Ask most people what separated the PSX and the N64 from another and the answer you'll most get is The PSX could do Final Fantasy VII; the N64 could do Mario 64.
Title: Re: What if Final Fantasy VII was on the N64 ?
Post by: japanfreak on May 11, 2009, 01:46:08 pm
@Famicomfreak

I was talking about the psx in the main.
Title: Re: What if Final Fantasy VII was on the N64 ?
Post by: son_ov_hades on May 11, 2009, 03:46:54 pm
The N64 actually had the stronger hardware.
Title: Re: What if Final Fantasy VII was on the N64 ?
Post by: 133MHz on May 11, 2009, 03:54:46 pm
Agreed, except for some abysmally small texture cache memory and the limited storage of cartridge media, performance-wise, the N64 kicked PlayStation's ass.
The Dreamcast also runs circles around the PS1 performance wise (a DC can emulate PS1 games at twice the resolution!). In the end the PS1 won because of rampant piracy IMO.
Title: Re: What if Final Fantasy VII was on the N64 ?
Post by: nintendodork on May 11, 2009, 04:06:53 pm
Doesn't the Dreamcast handle piracy better?
Title: Re: What if Final Fantasy VII was on the N64 ?
Post by: 133MHz on May 11, 2009, 07:27:15 pm
Sort of. It doesn't need a modchip but the games need to be modified.
The PS1 came out around 4 years earlier than the DC, that gave it precious time to establish a significant user base (of pirates).
Title: Re: What if Final Fantasy VII was on the N64 ?
Post by: Lorfarius on May 12, 2009, 07:31:51 am
The DC was next gen compared to the PS1, it came out around the same time as the PS2.
Title: Re: What if Final Fantasy VII was on the N64 ?
Post by: MarioMania on May 12, 2009, 09:19:25 pm
Can you run PS Games on the CD with a bootdisc ??
Title: Re: What if Final Fantasy VII was on the N64 ?
Post by: japanfreak on May 13, 2009, 09:53:11 am
I actually dont know how to set those things on cd's:S I WANT CHRONO CROSS DAMMIT!
Title: Re: What if Final Fantasy VII was on the N64 ?
Post by: satoshi_matrix on May 14, 2009, 12:27:53 am
I'm not a sony fanboy, but as someone who lived through and was old enough to comprehend the era, it is as clear to me now as it was then that the Playstation was leaps and bounds better than the N64 and espically Saturn.

The Playstation, like its successor, was leaps and bounds better than its competition solely on account of one thing: its library. Sony was able to capitalize on Nintendo's folly of using cartridges yet again and produce games like Final Fantasy VII - games that simply could not be produced on the competition's hardware. Using the strength of the CD and lessons learned about what works and doesn't on CD-games from the Sega CD, Turbografx16 CD and other attempts at CD-based systems before them, Sony really was able to produce noteworthy standalone games. The mixture of knowledge of how to make good games and the execution of talented developers really marked one of the major evolution points in gaming that can still be felt today.

Why do I say this? The Playstation simply had more good games that people wanted to play. This is among the reasons why the Playstation won out over the Saturn of which it was designed to compete with. Indeed, it could even be said that the Playstation outlasted even the Saturn's successor, the ill-fated Dreamcast. So what did the PS1's technically inferior specs matter in the long run?

With PS2 games still being made today dispite the fact that nearly everything else out there is superior, gaming history has shown us twice in a row that superior hardware does not win out in the long run. I believe that this same principle will repeat itself in the long run with Nintendo's Wii, but to a lesser extent since the Wii primarily targets the younger, casual, and non-hard-core gamers whereas the 360 and PS3 crowd are a totally different set of older, more sophisticated gamers.

The Playstation legacy will be the stuff of legends and its no arguing that the Playstation is as an important turning stone in console gaming history since the NES itself. Can the N64 claim the same...?

Title: Re: What if Final Fantasy VII was on the N64 ?
Post by: japanfreak on May 14, 2009, 09:30:37 am
I pretty much hate it that the n64 got a control stick and some months later, the ps1 got it too. The same happened with the d-pad, made by poor mr. yokoi. I dunno how you say it in english but sony just uses plagiaat... Nintendo made everything! NINTENDO!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SONY SUCKS! DAMMIT! WAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!


Sorry, I had the nintendo virus:S
Title: Re: What if Final Fantasy VII was on the N64 ?
Post by: son_ov_hades on May 14, 2009, 09:34:55 am
Fanboy alert. Oh and I think the word you're looking for is "plagiarism".
Title: Re: What if Final Fantasy VII was on the N64 ?
Post by: japanfreak on May 14, 2009, 10:58:37 am
Yeah:D

Im a fanboy and im proud of it
Title: Re: What if Final Fantasy VII was on the N64 ?
Post by: Blue Protoman on May 14, 2009, 11:24:27 am
Quote from: japanfreak on May 14, 2009, 10:58:37 am
Yeah:D

Im a fanboy and im proud of it


Join the club.  I'm not Nintendo-only, though; I'm anti-Sony and anti-Microsoft.
Title: Re: What if Final Fantasy VII was on the N64 ?
Post by: japanfreak on May 14, 2009, 11:40:47 am
me too! My top 5 developers would be

1. Nintendo of course
2. Konami
3. Capcom
4. Taito
5. Ehhhmmmm... Treasure?
Title: Re: What if Final Fantasy VII was on the N64 ?
Post by: satoshi_matrix on May 15, 2009, 06:23:11 pm
For me, it would be:


1. Capcom - what else did you expect? Megaman, Street Fighter, Phoenix Wright, Resident Evil, Bionic Commando, Strider, Devil May Cry, all those sweet arcade classics....
2. Konami - Castlevania, Metal Gear Solid, Silent Hill Gradius, Yu-gi-oh, TMNT, Contra
3. Namco - Soul Calibur, Tales of..., Katamari, Xenosaga, all those sweet arcade classics and of course, Riddddddddddddddddddddddge Raccccccer
4. Nintendo - For obvious SMB and Zelda reasons
5. D3 Publisher - they are small and obscure, but made most of the Simple 2000 Series and for that I love them.
Title: Re: What if Final Fantasy VII was on the N64 ?
Post by: Blue Protoman on May 15, 2009, 07:57:57 pm
Top 5:

1. Nintendo
2. Sega
3. Capcom
4. Konami
5. Namco
Title: Re: What if Final Fantasy VII was on the N64 ?
Post by: Rogles on May 16, 2009, 11:09:27 am
Konami
Cave
Team Shanghai Alice
Capcom
Nintendo.
Title: Re: What if Final Fantasy VII was on the N64 ?
Post by: LocalToast on May 16, 2009, 11:35:50 am
I'd say Valve is definitely high on my list. They're just plain awesome.
Title: Re: What if Final Fantasy VII was on the N64 ?
Post by: nurd on May 17, 2009, 02:55:48 pm
I just like whoever makes things I like.