Famicom World

I could probably start saving stuff for people since I have access to Taiwan auction sites, not to mention the flea market here, (famicom is called "red white machine" in Chinese :)  I could bring everything home with me in December so if your in the US, you wont have to pay huge shipping, but I need to know what the general value of famicom pirates are and what people would be wiling to pay.   If you have specific wants, post them here (with link to a pic please) and the price you'd pay and I'll see if I can find them.

Also, is there a decent list of games somewhere online (besides famicomworld) with value including pictures?

(sorry, this probably should have been put in Buy/Sell forum...)

Looking for:

Kart fighter* 20-30$  Pic: http://www.geocities.com/dvdtranslations/kart_fighter/cart.jpg

Pizza Pop! Mario* 25$ Pic: http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/7563/1011788.jpg

Super Simpsons 50$ : http://www.famicomworld.com/Pirated/Super_Simpsons_PIR.htm

That Pica Union Bond 4 in 1 game with picaclick and pac man with a pikachu head. No pic, just gat anything with pokemon on it 20$

Contra fighter no pic, any label should show anything related to contra and street fighter 30$

DK country 30$ Pic: http://www.famicomworld.com/Pirated/Super_Donkey_Kong_PIR.htm

Earthworm Jim 3 30$ http://www.famicomworld.com/Pirated/Hi-Game_3_in_1_Earthworm_Jim_Three.htm

PS: The * means must be on a single game cart.

(http://i38.tinypic.com/2mdlxmp.jpg)

I'd pay $20 - 25 for it, + I'll love you forever.

Also, if you happen to find ANOTHER Kart Fighter, I'd love to buy that from you as well.

And of course, we all want Super mario World. It's highly sought after and I'll pay $40 - 50 for it.

Quote from: MS-DOS4 on October 16, 2009, 10:25:49 pm

And of course, we all want Super mario World. It's highly sought after and I'll pay $40 - 50 for it.

Yeah... same here...

Quote from: MS-DOS4 on October 16, 2009, 10:25:49 pm



And of course, we all want Super mario World. It's highly sought after and I'll pay $40 - 50 for it.

Well, the one everyone wants is the full version on the multi-cart, which I'd pay more than $50 for.  Until then, I'm happy with this one  ;D (not sure how often you see them with a box [it is the short version though])

(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i7/4regt4/SMW1.jpg)

Otherwise, I'd have interest in Pandamar,  Donkey Kong Country, Earthworm Jim,  the sprite hacked M.C Kids game with Mario, as well as Rock and Ball Mario and Mario 8.  

wow, i just figured out why Chinese translate Mario as Mary---cause the phonetic name used for Mario is Ma li, which is also the same as the phonetic translation for Mary.  (wow, i'm such a nerd, but we all are so its okay)

Quote from: Medisinyl on October 17, 2009, 12:27:07 am

I'd pay more than $50 for.

Oh yeah? Then I'll pay $80 (http://sa.tweek.us/emots/images/emot-clint.gif)

Quote from: MS-DOS4 on October 17, 2009, 02:11:44 am

Quote from: Medisinyl on October 17, 2009, 12:27:07 am

I'd pay more than $50 for.

Oh yeah? Then I'll pay $80 (http://sa.tweek.us/emots/images/emot-clint.gif)

:D :D :D

i have 2 pandamar games (pj-008)

Yeah, SMW (Full Version) & DK Country

I'd also like cart versions of Doki Doki Panic [$25] & Almana no Kiseki [$50] (even if it has downgraded music :-\), & Vs. ExciteBike [$100], if that exists.

If you can find felix the cat, gi joe real american hero, spiderman, kiwi kraze, talespin, or darkwing duck please tell me!

Hey everybody!  don't forget to put the price you'd pay for them since I'll be looking on auction sites and don't want to over pay.

I'll especially look for Mario World but since you're offering so much for it, I'm thinking the chances of finding it are slim.

Also...whats the going rate on multi-carts including Mario hacks (without mario world).  I've found a few of those for $10 or $15 each.

Did you already go?

yeah, went back to the flea market.  I found a bunch of single-game carts for about $.60 each, so bought a bunch, but didn't find anything you guys were looking for :(  I'll have to get back home to see what most of the games i got were since some had no labels and others were all in Chinese. 

I'll let you know what I found then...in the mean time, I'll be checking auction sites which is why i need prices, so I don't over pay for something.  I found some multicarts on auction that had pictures of mario world, but no indication of actually having the game on it.  I asked my friend to email the seller and see, so...slim chance, but who knows...

If you see a multi that says JY 45-in-1, and it has some indication of Mario on it, then that's the one multicart known by many to have the FULL version of SMW.  Which is one of the things I'm looking for too. :)

There are a ton of multicarts that says Super Mario World 3 or something similar and is always Super Mario Bros. 3. You gotta be careful. Super Mario World Full is only on 45 in 1 multicarts, one by JY Company and another by some other company.

Hummer Team, right?

Hummer Team is JY. Just another name for JY. I'm pretty sure.

Quote from: sumguy on October 19, 2009, 06:24:38 am
yeah, went back to the flea market.  I found a bunch of single-game carts for about $.60 each, so bought a bunch, but didn't find anything you guys were looking for :(  I'll have to get back home to see what most of the games i got were since some had no labels and others were all in Chinese. 

I'll let you know what I found then...in the mean time, I'll be checking auction sites which is why i need prices, so I don't over pay for something.  I found some multicarts on auction that had pictures of mario world, but no indication of actually having the game on it.  I asked my friend to email the seller and see, so...slim chance, but who knows...

You should post a pic of them with all the labels showing.  Should be some people here that can identify at least some of them.

You'll be my hero if you can get a Mario World and hold it till Christmas.
I really don't care at all if it's full of demo.

I know, it's not like, I WANT IT NOW! Or anything. I'm just saying, if you find a crate of em, can I buy one?

Are you sure Nintendo sold games in China? I know there was a limited release of the official Famicom and about four or so pulse line games, but my presumption is that Nintendo failed to make enough sales to keep the product viable and quickly gave up, largely because pirate companies, like Whirlwind Manufacturing, cut into Nintendo's market.

Quote from: cubelmariomadness on October 19, 2009, 01:41:37 pm
I know, it's not like, I WANT IT NOW! Or anything. I'm just saying, if you find a crate of em, can I buy one?

Quote from: MasterDisk on October 19, 2009, 10:13:03 am
If he got it, I will get it because I asked first (90% sur).

Or whoever is willing to pay the most, I'm sure. :P

I've been trying to get my Taiwan contact to find that multi cart with no luck so far. I'll certainly be impressed if sumguy finds it. I actually never considered flea markets in Taiwan, for some reason that concept feels like it doesn't fit over there.... :P

Bah! Multi-carts are a dime a dozen in China. Work on getting singles instead.   :)

Agreed there. They're also misleading. My recent multi cart I got because one game is titled Earthworm 3 in Chinese, yet says Boogerman in English under it. Took the risk to see it was EWJ or not. It wasn't :/

Besides the one with SMW I can't think of any multi's that offer much that's unique that you can't find on single. Though I guess it's hard to find certain games in either form, so you take what you can get :)

Ya, multicarts are so sketchy in China. It's such a risk. It's much better to just concentrate on Originals or singles. I could probably get, literally, box's and box's of yellow mutli-carts. How many would be valuable? Probably less than 3%, which sucks!

sounds right.  i wont worry about getting too many multicarts.  Funny arguments about a game I haven't found and probably wont find  :D :D

I'm going to wait on posting pics of what i found until Dec, when I can get home, sort them out and test them on a machine.

Its amazing how much info you guys have on the history of this stuff.  Very interesting.

Quote from: Trenton_net on October 19, 2009, 07:50:55 pm
Ya, multicarts are so sketchy in China. It's such a risk. It's much better to just concentrate on Originals or singles. I could probably get, literally, box's and box's of yellow mutli-carts. How many would be valuable? Probably less than 3%, which sucks!

these yellow carts?

http://cah4e3.shedevr.org.ru/pirates.php


I'd murder to get in one of those stores for 5 minutes.

That's awesome. Kinda makes you think twice about paying $30 for a multicart.  :-\

Quote from: MS-DOS4 on October 19, 2009, 10:00:18 pm

these yellow carts?

http://cah4e3.shedevr.org.ru/pirates.php

I'd murder to get in one of those stores for 5 minutes.

:o

Well, unless you want to spend lots to fly to the country that has them for $1 or so, I wouldn't expect to get carts that might have rare games on them for very cheap. Just the way things work, but I sure as hell wouldn't find the JY 45-in-1 and decide to sell it for $3 if I got it for that much. Rare is rare after all :)

But ya, I agree, $30 is ridiculous if there's no games on the cart that can't be found very easily as a single.

Quote from: MS_DOS4these yellow carts?

Ya, except now days less ghetto looking.  :D  Places outside of China, like Russia, etc just get all the leftover crap from China I suppose.

Quote from: MS_DOS4http://cah4e3.shedevr.org.ru/pirates.php

Meh :-\ Like I said, multicarts are so sketchy and old tech now. Why invest in old multicarts when you could sell Originals (remakes) of popular games, and have them in Chinese language which 99% of the buying population can read?  Not only that the collectors value is 10x higher.

Quote from: MS_DOS4I'd murder to get in one of those stores for 5 minutes.

Now, now... Murder is not the answer. I suppose that guys game shop is kind of neat in a 1995 kind of way. But why not just buy directly from me and my cousin instead? :D J/K!



Leave black market stuff to the professionals! 8) My cousins friend runs a pretty good racket. Not only do you NOT have to guess what game your getting (no multi-carts here), you get your stuff CIB with box and manual.

Quote from: Trenton_net on October 19, 2009, 11:15:36 pm

old tech

All these 8-bit games are old tech.  :D

Ah,  touché!  :D

http://goods.ruten.com.tw/item/show?11090417930994

I'm guesing this isn't the Donkey Kong Country everybody wants...

No, that's a hack of Tiny Toons 1.

I've also seen a cart that looks exactly like that that's also that other very shitty "original" game called Domkey Kong or something.

I have a PJ-008 which contains the following games:

80 Days; 1942; Arkanoid; Aladdin III; Argus; Adisland; ASCII; Arabian; Badminion; Baltron; B-Wings; Balloon Fight; Bird Week; Boomman; Brush Roller; Clay Shoot; Chack and Pop; Circus Charlie; City Connection; Challenger; Dig Dug; Dough Boy; Druaga; Devil World; Dingdong; Door Door; Dynamite Bowl; Elevator Action; Exerion; Formation Z; Front Line; Fire Dragon, Flappy; Flipull; Field Combat; Galaga; Galg; Geimos; Gyrodine; Gotcha; Galaxians; Gradius; Hyper Olympic; Joust; Karateka; Kage; Lode Runner; Lunar Ball; Macross; Magic Jewellery; Magmax; Mappy; Millipede; Ninja Fighter; Ninja II; Nuts and Milk; Othello; Pooyan; Pac Land; Pandamar; Penguin; Route 16; Raid on Bay; Road Fighter; Soccer; Sky Destroyer; Space ET; Star Gate; Star Force; Son Son; Spartan; Spelunker; Spy vs. Spy; Sqoon; Star Luster; Tag Team; Tank; Twin Bee; Wrestling; Wrecking Crew; Wisdom; Warp Man; Xevious; Zippy Race.

firefly572002

I'm also interested in a full version of Super Mario World.

There's already 2 offers for $150. Better be able to beat that if you want it  ;D

Quote from: Bramsworth on October 21, 2009, 08:51:17 pm
There's already 2 offers for $150. Better be able to beat that if you want it  ;D

Not surprising, and I don't think one has ever been sold with the knowledge of all the interested FW members being aware, so who knows what FW could drive the price up to.    

Though being a multi-cart probably hurts the value some degree, but it sounds like it doesn't exist any other way  :-\

I started a new topic with some auctions i found....Dont know how much to bid for each one or if some of them are worthless, so let me know the values of them if you can.  Thanks :)

I merged that with the price check thread.

yah...i know nothing about hardware, but wouldn't there be a rom dump of that mario world somewhere that someone could make new carts with?  or is everyone just after the original?

If you'll do a search through this site, you'll see that many people have asked the same question, and almost all of them have been presented with the same answer.  No, this is not doable, because the Super Mario World pirate (and the JY 45-in-1) are mapper 90.  Mapper 90 is apparently a special mapper that is extremely hard to reproduce unless you sacrifice a mapper 90 game, which so far, are only known to be in the JY 45-in-1, the SMW pirate, and very few other games.  If you had either one of those, then it wouldn't make any sense to sacrifice it to make the same thing. :D

However, there are ROM dumps readily available on the internet, so you'll be able to play it on your computer, and possibly the PowerPak if Bunnyboy actually makes it compatible.  Mapper 90 is "planned", so we'll just have to wait and see I guess. :-\

IMO, the SMW pirate has crappy controls and is frustrating to play. I only have the demo version, but can't understand what all the fuss is over it, besides that it's rare. I certainly wouldn't pay $150 for the full version.  ::)

Was it really necessary to post that in two threads? ::)

I agree. Aside from that fact that it's uncommon, I have no idea why people care so much about it. There are loads of games people never even heard about yet, which I would say, are probably more uncommon than Mario.

But if some sucker wants to pay $150... Hey hey! Thats just more money for us sellers. :D

$150? I'll just wait then.

Quote from: Trenton_net on October 22, 2009, 03:18:30 pm
I agree. Aside from that fact that it's uncommon, I have no idea why people care so much about it. There are loads of games people never even heard about yet, which I would say, are probably more uncommon than Mario.

But if some sucker wants to pay $150... Hey hey! Thats just more money for us sellers. :D

Rarity is certainly one of the driving factors with anything, and of course, it has to be known to a select group of people that are waiting for one to show up. 

I recently bought a record (vinyl) for .13 cents (bulk average), and sold it for $810.00 on eBay after my girlfriend noticed signatures inside and I checked the value online (showed sales of $700-$1200 or so on Popsike).  Record by "The Topics" -- a group I've never heard of, nor anyone I know has heard of, but I guess when something only shows up for sale once a year, then people will scramble at the rare chance.

Of course, there are plenty of glass case items people will buy for $1000s just to have sit in the corner.  At least you can play SMW, and $150 is certainly nowhere near the price of a gold NWC cart.

Interesting about mapper90...

anyway....I'm going to post the pictures in this thread instead of the other one.  I'm starting to get a sense of what is sought after so if anyone is interested in these, give me a price offer...(again, I can't guarantee getting it, but I'll try)

(I know some of you have already asked for some of these...don't worry, I found multiples)

(http://img.ruten.com.tw/s1/4/da/cd/11080309648077_233.jpg)
(http://b.rimg.com.tw/s1/6/80/4b/11090314998859_347_m.jpg)
(http://b.rimg.com.tw/s1/f/f3/15/11070405795605_820_m.jpg)
(http://f.rimg.com.tw/s1/e/18/c9/11070405674185_397_m.jpg)
(http://e.rimg.com.tw/s2/6/d7/84/11090519493508_74_m.jpg)
(http://img.ruten.com.tw/s2/7/63/0e/11090323445518_903.jpg)
(http://a.rimg.com.tw/s1/5/c6/c9/11081012254409_386_m.jpg)
(http://c.rimg.com.tw/s2/1/be/70/11071014087280_543_m.jpg)
(http://img.ruten.com.tw/s2/f/6d/f2/11090208629234_366.jpg)
(http://img.ruten.com.tw/s1/0/5b/23/11090910187299_276.jpg)
(http://img.ruten.com.tw/s1/9/6c/d5/11090303656149_93.jpg) Contra multicart
(http://img.ruten.com.tw/s2/f/ad/be/11090704622014_58.jpg)
(http://img.ruten.com.tw/s2/b/6f/60/11090203124576_703.jpg)

Those chips aren't strange. They are just epoxy globs used to prevent reversing.

Quote from: MasterDisk on October 24, 2009, 05:48:51 am
OMG, Original SMB2j Kaiser label ! This label version is very rare !

I never understood why people care so much about rare/common label variations.  Especially for pirates.  The labels themselves have absolutely no value.

Anyway, that cartridge with the DIP switches looks pretty cool.

Quote from: MasterDisk on October 24, 2009, 05:48:51 am


EDIT: OMG, Original SMB2j Kaiser label ! This label version is very rare !

Noticed that as well.  I have a Kaiser SMB2j with a different label.  

Quote from: nintendodork on October 24, 2009, 10:36:02 am

Quote from: MasterDisk on October 24, 2009, 05:48:51 am
OMG, Original SMB2j Kaiser label ! This label version is very rare !

I never understood why people care so much about rare/common label variations.  Especially for pirates.  The labels themselves have absolutely no value.

Anyway, that cartridge with the DIP switches looks pretty cool.

Switch cart looks cool, but an unnecessary pain to actually use (especially when I can't read any of the games  :P)

As for labels, to say they have no value themselves just isn't true.  They have a rarity and collector value of their own--sometimes hunting down every variation is the goal of a collector that has everything else.  I certainly can't afford being such a collector, so I may never fully understand it myself, but it does make sense as there are plenty of collectors determined to get everything.

I can sort of understand for official games (since there aren't nearly as many label revisions), but since pirates are cheaply made in the first place, I figure I'd behold something just as valuable if it came from my own printer.

Quote from: nintendodork on October 24, 2009, 10:47:15 am
I can sort of understand for official games (since there aren't nearly as many label revisions), but since pirates are cheaply made in the first place, I figure I'd behold something just as valuable if it came from my own printer.

Same for me, which is why I'm plenty happy with my pirated versions of expensive games (ANN, Recca, etc.).  But for collectors, it only takes two people looking for a rare item to potentially drive the price up.  And many serious game collectors seem to be exceedingly wealthy (those with nearly complete sealed NES collections and such are mind boggling). 

I think you guys hit the nail on the head. That's why I tend to stay away from common pirates. It is much more valuable and collectible to get items that are tangibly unique you couldn't get elsewhere. I mean, in some cases you can't get an item because its expensive, rare, or both. In those cases getting a pirate/clone makes sense. Same rules apply for Originals as well, like Resident Evil or Zelda 3. You just couldn't get the experience otherwise.

How much would a Sonic 6 or Sonic 5 cost?

all the stuff I'm getting is from ruten.com.tw

you're welcome to look there yourself as well...pictures are just what I think people might want (can't get anything heavy though).

That's the best way to do it. For example, I search the Taiwan auction sites and email the links to my friend who buys them. I pay commission for each auction, kind of like any proxy, plus all the other costs (game price, shipping, fees, etc.). It makes it much easier for the proxy to do it that way.

This is great!  ;D I was wondering if u could find Kart Fighter and M.C. Mario. :)

Quote from: sumgamer on June 19, 2013, 01:11:51 pm
This is great!  ;D I was wondering if u could find Kart Fighter and M.C. Mario. :)

2009.

 :-\I'm new so do not think I was doing something ridiculous.

I wouldn't mind selling you my copy of Kart Fighter.