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Title: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: manuel on September 28, 2010, 11:08:02 pm
The Nintendo 3DS will be released in Japan on Feb 26, 2011 for 25000 Yen.

Anybody planning to import?
I'll preorder mine as soon as preorders are up at Yamada Denki.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: nintendodork on September 29, 2010, 04:59:30 am
I was thinking about importing one, but I heard somewhere that they're going to have region-lockout.  If that's true, it's an incredibly stupid move by Nintendo, because there's absolutely no reason for it.  Need an example?  Every other portable Nintendo system. :P
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: manuel on September 29, 2010, 05:48:18 am
I agree that it would suck big time if it was region locked.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: UglyJoe on September 29, 2010, 06:22:47 am
I'm not gonna import one, but I'll probably end up pre-ordering one from Amazon once they start taking US pre-orders.

Quote from: nintendodork on September 29, 2010, 04:59:30 am
I was thinking about importing one, but I heard somewhere that they're going to have region-lockout.


Are the carts region-locked, or is it just the DSiWare stuff like the DSi?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: manuel on September 29, 2010, 06:33:23 am
My guess is that only the downloads would be locked to one region.
It would be nice if you could have several accounts like the PSN, where I have a Japanese, a German and a USA account.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: nintendodork on September 29, 2010, 03:17:02 pm
On top of what I said earlier, if the 3DS sells in North America for what it does in Japan, that's about $300.  That's $100 for every dimension!

Annnddd, it's more than the Wii was at launch. :( Don't think I'll be importing it, sadly.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: UglyJoe on September 29, 2010, 04:11:11 pm
They haven't listed a US price yet.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: MS-DOS4 on September 29, 2010, 04:12:57 pm
Released in 2001?


Anyway, I won't be importing, and I'll probably just wait until a friend has it so I can see if the gimmick is worth the price tag.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: nintendodork on September 29, 2010, 04:28:31 pm
Quote from: UglyJoe on September 29, 2010, 04:11:11 pm
They haven't listed a US price yet.
Oh, I suppose I should've worded my post better.  Fixed.  But if this follows the same price trends as the DSi, then I guess it'll still be around $250.  Which is still quite a lot.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: rotomrocks12312 on September 29, 2010, 04:58:22 pm
Quote from: MS-DOS4 on September 29, 2010, 04:12:57 pm
Released in 2001?


Anyway, I won't be importing, and I'll probably just wait until a friend has it so I can see if the gimmick is worth the price tag.


DAMN! I'm too slow...
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: manuel on September 29, 2010, 06:21:23 pm
2011! Damn typos...

I think there's no way it'll be more than 249$ in the US.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: L___E___T on September 30, 2010, 10:48:59 am
It's released for the same price as Wii, so will the games.  If you do a straight converion it ends up more dollars (but not £s) - but Nintendo have not announced their US or EU pricing yet.

I would strongly recommened AGAINST importing.  Wait the extra month and don't suffer from region lock-out of 3DS games, DSi (specific) games, DSi Ware, 3DS Ware and more.

Yes it is worth the price tag.  The connectivity will change the way you play games away from home.  I'll have one soon as well.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: MS-DOS4 on September 30, 2010, 10:59:55 am
Incase some of you gentlemen missed this video:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=GRSdUvbLhSo


By the looks of it, you can now finally loose at Street Fighter without even having to play it, thus saving you tons of time. Also, I'll be looking forward to checking my stocks right before bedtime.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: petik1 on September 30, 2010, 01:10:13 pm
Streetfighter characters stand on blue cakes and ram into each other... Without you even seeing! :D
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: nintendodork on September 30, 2010, 01:39:38 pm
What was the deal with that question block card at 1:53?  It looks pretty cool, but it doesn't seem to serve a purpose.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: manuel on September 30, 2010, 04:08:54 pm
Those cards are used for augmented reality games.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: jackhandy566 on October 08, 2010, 01:12:00 am
what's the conversion for yen to useless american dollars?

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: MS-DOS4 on October 08, 2010, 01:59:45 am
I wouldn't know that one, never heard of useless American currency.

According to Google, currently 1 Yen = 0.0121 of 1 Dollar
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: nintendodork on October 08, 2010, 05:28:21 am
Quote from: jackhandy566 on October 08, 2010, 01:12:00 am
what's the conversion for yen to useless american dollars?


www.xe.com

or Google.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: cubelmariomadness on October 08, 2010, 10:00:06 am
Looks like very roughly, 100 yen equals a dollar.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: L___E___T on October 08, 2010, 12:10:19 pm
Don't rely on currency converters for the retail price though.  Just wait for the official announcement.  Expect same pricing as the Wii when it launched.  That means $60 games potentially :(
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: hashiriya1 on October 19, 2010, 04:33:23 pm
I imagine Yamada Denki doesn't offer as much points as GEO for buying a 3DS. I'll be getting mine at either GEO or Seagull.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: L___E___T on October 19, 2010, 04:39:29 pm
I'll be getting mine before launch! Woohoo!  OK I'm done bragging now, but I played on one the other week and it was even better than I had hoped.  Can't wait.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: famiac on October 19, 2010, 04:43:55 pm
 :o how?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: linkzpikachu on October 19, 2010, 06:35:47 pm
Quote from: L___E___T on October 19, 2010, 04:39:29 pm
I'll be getting mine before launch! Woohoo!  OK I'm done bragging now, but I played on one the other week and it was even better than I had hoped.  Can't wait.

damn you and your job at square enix....
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: petik1 on October 19, 2010, 06:44:21 pm
Quote from: L___E___T on October 19, 2010, 04:39:29 pm
I'll be getting mine before launch! Woohoo!  OK I'm done bragging now, but I played on one the other week and it was even better than I had hoped.  Can't wait.


(http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/profile-ak-snc4/object2/821/74/n115065605181171_5137.jpg)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: manuel on October 19, 2010, 06:47:42 pm
Quote from: hashiriya1 on October 19, 2010, 04:33:23 pm
I imagine Yamada Denki doesn't offer as much points as GEO for buying a 3DS. I'll be getting mine at either GEO or Seagull.


I don't care about the points I'll get, I care about the points I already have and with these I can get a 3DS practically for free.  :D

And damn you, L___E___T , do you always have to rub it in?  :P
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: L___E___T on October 20, 2010, 05:11:27 pm

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs327.snc3/28964_106572902718683_106571662718807_55105_4821380_n.jpg)

Sorry, but it won't be a real 3DS, just a circuit board with screens - and no games....  I have to wait like everyone else!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: manuel on October 20, 2010, 05:50:07 pm
That pic is scary somehow...
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: petik1 on October 20, 2010, 06:43:37 pm
I think its the eyes that make it creepy...

Is it a working pcb? Or just a mock up?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: manuel on October 20, 2010, 10:01:11 pm
Usually game companies get working PCBs I guess, because mock-ups won't help them much.  ;)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Rob64 on October 22, 2010, 07:32:27 am
I wouldn't import. I won't get it when it first comes out either unless I win a lottery or something. I will have one because of how it boggles my mind as a math/science student.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: L___E___T on October 22, 2010, 08:23:20 am
Really?  The technology is simple and very effective, it's nothing new - it's just only affordable on small screens at the moment.  It's been on Japanese cell/mobile phones for a while now.  I have a feeling they outsource the screens from one of those companies anyway.

Please pre-order if you hope to get one, they will be sold out for a month at least.  I've pre-ordered two.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Rob64 on October 22, 2010, 08:51:41 am
The entire concept of what the 3DS does is new to me. 3D without glasses, pretty cool. If it does exist on a japanese cell phone, I have no idea.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: UglyJoe on October 22, 2010, 03:38:46 pm
This is more or less how it works: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/08/12/3d_illusion/ (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/08/12/3d_illusion/)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: L___E___T on October 23, 2010, 04:50:33 am
Also, I was wrong.  They are here and are like retail units too, but better.  Fully unlocked and region free, but with different coloured casing that doesn't look as nice etc. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: FamicomRetroGamer on October 23, 2010, 08:46:16 am
Meh, the games were kinda crappy (they shown), except DoA which was pretty good.

Ridge Racer 3DS seemed inferior to the PSP version.

It's still early to say if it's worth it or not, I don't care about 3D but about the gaming experience.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: L___E___T on October 23, 2010, 11:28:02 am
I would buy it simply for Super SF4, heck I'm buying two but I think it's sensible to wait as well. 
Don't buy it for 3D, but the 3D isn't really a feature or gimmick like it was with Wii (motion control).  Even most of the launch titles are treating 3D like a bonus, not something to base the design on.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: petik1 on October 23, 2010, 01:42:31 pm
Well, I hope games aren't specifically designed for 3d, or else they might turn out like the trashy party games on the wii. Still, can't wait to see it. Can't shell out 300 right now, but at least I can play store demos!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: linkzpikachu on October 25, 2010, 06:20:00 pm
i saw a video on bobshouseofvideogames.com and the graphics look really nice for it, almost up to par with the PSP or modern consoles
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: L___E___T on October 25, 2010, 07:50:40 pm
What I saw was in all cases better than PSP and in some cases as good as gamecube.  Think Smash Bros (Brawl) quality visuals in some cases.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: manuel on October 25, 2010, 07:51:46 pm
I don't have such high standards.
If games look like DS games or better, I'm OK.  :D
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: famiac on October 25, 2010, 08:10:27 pm
Does anyone else see the logic flaw in releasing super paper mario for the 3DS ?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: MS-DOS4 on October 25, 2010, 08:14:17 pm
No? What's wrong with it?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: nintendodork on October 25, 2010, 08:15:03 pm
He's saying that paper is flat.  

3D isn't.

Zing...?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Rob64 on October 25, 2010, 08:21:26 pm
Yeah, but they made it work in Super Paper Mario on Wii.

I think it can work because with respect to the paper Mario series, it's just a look of 2D in a 3D world.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: MS-DOS4 on October 25, 2010, 08:27:49 pm
Well, Super Paper Mario on the Wii had a 3d mode.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: famiac on October 25, 2010, 09:16:50 pm
Quote from: nintendodork on October 25, 2010, 08:15:03 pm
He's saying that paper is flat.  

3D isn't.

Zing...?


that's exactly what i meant, MS-DOS  ::)

lol

Quote from: nintendodork on October 25, 2010, 08:15:03 pm
Zing...?

that's going to be my new catchphrase.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: manuel on October 25, 2010, 10:04:25 pm
But with 3D turned on you can look behind paper Mario, which might be a nice effect.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: L___E___T on October 26, 2010, 01:29:59 am
One piece of paper is flat. Several pieces of paper layered, or a pop-up book, or even that same piece of paper tilted, becomes 3D in that sense.  SPM uses similar perspectives as the Wii version, relying on flat paper to then turn that assumption around.  While it's not for me, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.  I just think Mario should be a platformer not an RPG myself. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: manuel on October 26, 2010, 02:46:26 am
Quote from: L___E___T on October 26, 2010, 01:29:59 am
I just think Mario should be a platformer not an RPG myself. 


I wholeheartedly agree.
I have all the Mario RPGs, but just couldn't seem to get into them...
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: FamicomRetroGamer on October 26, 2010, 08:29:46 am
Quote from: linkzpikachu on October 25, 2010, 06:20:00 pm
i saw a video on bobshouseofvideogames.com and the graphics look really nice for it, almost up to par with the PSP or modern consoles


3DS has PS2/Wii graphics, not 360/PS3.

3DS graphics are a bit better than PSP, but the preview screens of Ridge Racer for 3DS look horrible, even worse than PSP (not saying PSP's version is bad).
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: nintendodork on October 26, 2010, 08:36:08 am
I really don't understand how you could say a whole lot about the 3DS or compare it to other things just by demos and videos that have been released. I would wait until I actually play it myself before drawing any conclusions.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: L___E___T on October 26, 2010, 08:50:05 am
I would skew it at PS2/Gamecube level graphics from what I've seen so far.  Just remember that graphical quality comes down to optimisation of game code, not tech specs (how fast things load, get painted and animate etc etc... 

Ridge Racer could well be unable to render as much as quickly without pop-up, for example.  Compare Smash Bros Melee to Something like Soul Calibur 2 and there's a notable difference even though they're both fighters on the same console.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: petik1 on October 26, 2010, 01:31:32 pm
Wait, i thought the paper mario game was gonna be a new one, not just spm... And plus, imagine seeing the layers of paper physically instead of just some visual cues.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: L___E___T on October 26, 2010, 03:54:49 pm
Yeah, it's new.  Was just trying to illustrate what you pointed out :)