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These two portable consoles will be very competitive, but as it seems PSP 2 will be ahead because it has two thumbsticks instead of just one, this is very needed for action adventure/fps and other genre games.
3DS has 3D-effect but I'm not into it, I'm rather interested in the games.
If Sony fails to deliver PSP 2 without a physical disc drive for PSP 2 games, they can forget about even releasing it to the market. PSPgo is a good example.
FPS games are not my favourite but playing them on a portable console with two thumbsticks sure is entertaining, and online even better! ;D
Sony's supposed to announce PSP 2 this week, day 27 of January 2011, lets hope so.
Link about PSP 2: http://www.pcworld.com/article/217536/rumor_sonys_psp2_to_sport_3g_wireless_oled_display.html
Oh and, I hope all 3DS/PSP2 fanboys will die cause there's enough as it is for games and consoles already. Fanboys suck!
3DS! All the way! for me! ;D ;D
I already have a PSP slim, which I use mostly for music. There are only a few worth getting for the PSP alone, so I doubt the PSP2 will be any better.
I'm looking more forward to the 3DS. Is there really anything that new or interesting about the PSP2 that would make it stand out, besides the two analog sticks? Even though it will have two analog sticks, I have always hated FPSes on portable systems, and I don't think I can see myself spending however much money they cost on one just for that extra analog stick. And to go along what you said about the lack of a disk drive (if that does turn out to be true), Sony should've seen their mistake with the PSPgo.
My money's going towards the 3DS.
Quote from: nintendodork on January 24, 2011, 12:34:09 pm
I'm looking more forward to the 3DS. Is there really anything that new or interesting about the PSP2 that would make it stand out, besides the two analog sticks? Even though it will have two analog sticks, I have always hated FPSes on portable systems, and I don't think I can see myself spending however much money they cost on one just for that extra analog stick. And to go along what you said about the lack of a disk drive (if that does turn out to be true), Sony should've seen their mistake with the PSPgo.
My money's going towards the 3DS.
If it came out a KillZone 3 Portable Edition for PSP 2, oh my god, I would go crazy!
The series is epic, it's actually the only FPS I really like, Gears is good too but that's TPS and GTA IV (TPS).
I'd rather have the 3DS. Personally, I believe portable games should be simple and fun, like what you can find on Nintendo systems. Games with higher graphics and complicated gameplay should be kept on the TV screen. That's just my opinion however.
im leaning toward the 3DS like most of us hear, not only is it cheaper than the PSP2 but i want it for the fighting, racing, and nintendo franchised games.
Quote from: linkzpikachu on January 24, 2011, 02:18:23 pm
im leaning toward the 3DS like most of us hear, not only is it cheaper than the PSP2 but i want it for the fighting, racing, and nintendo franchised games.
PSP 2 will also have those genres and et cetera, about the price it's still unknown.
It could reach 250$ or 300$ but as always, consoles decrease their price as time passes by.
Normally I would say 3DS, but, and I think I'm not alone here, no one really wants the 3DS for it's 3D ability.
The last two years of PSP has actually been very impressive.. I was battling the idea buying a GO and ultimately decided against it since Sony isn't even supporting it in North America.
But yeah, PSP is actually incredibly popular here in Japan.. If Sony can keep developer's interest and immediately transition it to PSP2, I actually might consider getting that over a 3DS.
I don't know that a download-only option for the PSP2 would necessarily be as big a problem as it was on the PSPGo. I think the big issue with the PSPGo was that you couldn't use your existing PSP games. What's the point of upgrading if it obsoletes your entire game library?
If the PSP2 were all-download from the start then it wouldn't have quite the same negative feedback since you'd only lose backwards compatibility (if the PSP2 even promises that, I don't really know).
I know with my DSi, I've definitely spent more time playing DSiWare games that I've downloaded rather than proper cartridge games. They're cheaper and it's way more convenient to have a dozen or so games sitting there rather than having to swap carts.
I go for the NDS Lite....why so many changes I will never know..I also heard if you play the 3DS more than half an hour you get headaches or go blind or something. The line up of games just feels weak too and don't let me get started with the PSP 2. Oh well that's just my opinion you don't have to listen to me...
I'll listen to ya.The 3D effect could strain the eyes. While it won't make you go blind, I'm sure it will have an adverse effect on your eyes after a while. That's why they put in the 3d slider so you can control how deep you want your 3d experience to be. If I understand correctly, you can even turn the effect completely off for games, thus saving your eyes. To me, the line up of games sounds great. I'll be most happy to finally play Ocarina of Time for the first time. I never owned it as a child for some reason, and I never wanted to use an emulator.
I hope it's really that great of a game like everyone says. But perhaps it's everybody's combined nostalgia that's making the game out to be more than what it actually is?
Quote from: MS-DOS4 on January 25, 2011, 08:05:22 am
I'll listen to ya.The 3D effect could strain the eyes. While it won't make you go blind, I'm sure it will have an adverse effect on your eyes after a while. That's why they put in the 3d slider so you can control how deep you want your 3d experience to be. If I understand correctly, you can even turn the effect completely off for games, thus saving your eyes. To me, the line up of games sounds great. I'll be most happy to finally play Ocarina of Time for the first time. I never owned it as a child for some reason, and I never wanted to use an emulator.
I hope it's really that great of a game like everyone says. But perhaps it's everybody's combined nostalgia that's making the game out to be more than what it actually is?
3DS right now seems like a better deal, also if Sony flops by not having a physical driver for its PSP 2 games, they can forget about the clients.
I like to see, feel, touch the games/media I buy, digital is just empty.
Quote from: MS-DOS4 on January 25, 2011, 08:05:22 am
I hope it's really that great of a game like everyone says. But perhaps it's everybody's combined nostalgia that's making the game out to be more than what it actually is?
This time it's not only nostalgia. The game is actually awesome. ;D
Really? I've played it and to me it just seems like....an average game. Sure it's pretty depthy and interesting, but not the greatest game ever.
If that's an average game I'd love to know what's a good or great game in your opinion.
What's average about OoT? It has a fantastic control scheme, a big overworld, good boss fights, great puzzles... I can't think of anything really negative.
Of course there's always personal taste. If you just happen not to like it, then there's nothing that can be said about it.
I would compare the 3D zelda (OoT, MM) to Tomb Raider series. I loved TR from the beginning, and I didn't knew about Zelda for a long time. Now I'm playing OoT on my N64 and I know how to play because it's so simillar to TR in so many cases... I think that I would have loved Zelda more if I found it before TR. But that definatelly should have happened in "the days"...like 10-15 years ago. With so many different games nowadays, it's difficult to judge the game now. You definatelly need the "retro-approach" on this one.
I plan to buy both. Dey betta be good!
Do your research first or you might loose an eye lol jk
Same as before, I plan to eventually buy both, but neither right away.
Wow.. PSP2 (now known as NGP) is HOT. And I'm reeeally happy it plays digital versions of PSP games, cause I'm been looking to get Peace Walker and maybe the new Monster Hunter when it becomes available.
I might suspend my need for a 3DS for this... it all depends on what happens in the next couple months..
Quote from: tappybot on January 27, 2011, 03:55:02 am
Wow.. PSP2 (now known as NGP) is HOT. And I'm reeeally happy it plays digital versions of PSP games, cause I'm been looking to get Peace Walker and maybe the new Monster Hunter when it becomes available.
I might suspend my need for a 3DS for this... it all depends on what happens in the next couple months..
It's kinda unfair comparing NGP to 3DS, since NGP is one step ahead on gaming.
NGP has 2 analogue sticks and 3DS only one.
3DS has 3D-effect but to be honest that doesn't even matter to me because gaming was never about being able to play in 3D.
NGP is definitely my portable console choice.
Oh by the way, what the hell happened to Panasonic's console release?
Quote from: FamicomRetroGamer on January 27, 2011, 06:26:04 am
It's kinda unfair comparing NGP to 3DS, since NGP is one step ahead on gaming.
To be frank, that sounds quite weird to me.
Having a second analogue stick doesn't make the games better automatically, just as having 3D doesn't make for better games.
Both machines will be in the same console "generation" and that's why it's OK to compare them in every way.
And if you're so focused on graphics, then obviously the more expensive machine will be suitable for you.
To me personally a 2nd analogue stick doesn't mean anything as I usually don't play/like games that use the 2nd one.
Wow the NGP can run full PS3 games?!? I didn't have an opinion before, but the 3DS looks pretty weak in comparison now.
Quote from: son_ov_hades on January 27, 2011, 09:38:38 am
Wow the NGP can run full PS3 games?!? I didn't have an opinion before, but the 3DS looks pretty weak in comparison now.
3DS uses PS2/Wii alike graphics, Nintendo doesn't seem to focus on its best performance at all, while Sony does.
NGP was really impressive since the first time I saw it.
Quote from: FamicomRetroGamer on January 27, 2011, 09:52:09 am
3DS uses PS2/Wii alike graphics, Nintendo doesn't seem to focus on its best performance at all, while Sony does.
The same could be said of the Gameboy vs the Game Gear and of the DS vs the PSP. Nintendo's handhelds are regularly underpowered yet always crush the competition. Go figure.
Quote from: UglyJoe on January 27, 2011, 03:45:46 pm
Quote from: FamicomRetroGamer on January 27, 2011, 09:52:09 am
3DS uses PS2/Wii alike graphics, Nintendo doesn't seem to focus on its best performance at all, while Sony does.
The same could be said of the Gameboy vs the Game Gear and of the DS vs the PSP. Nintendo's handhelds are regularly underpowered yet always crush the competition. Go figure.
Wii sold more and so did DS, but hardcore gamers aren't going with those consoles, because they want powerful and gamers that are made for their genres.
Nintendo's selling basically for the casual market so no wonder they sell more than Sony and Microsoft.
Quote from: FamicomRetroGamer on January 27, 2011, 06:23:51 pm
Wii sold more and so did DS, but hardcore gamers aren't going with those consoles, because they want powerful and gamers that are made for their genres.
You say this like it's a fact. As far as portable consoles go, I don't think one is any more "hardcore" than the other. I think it just depends on what kind of games you're interested in. The launch titles for the 3DS look really fun to me, and I definitely do
not consider myself to be a casual gamer.
Well, then I've been a casual gamer for 25 years without even knowing... And I thought I could be "hardcore" with over 20 consoles and over 500 games owned... :'(
I'm not a casual gamer at all, nor a hardcore gamer, I just like what I like. The 3DS looks to be something that I will most certainly be interested in, and am especially anticipating the 3DS Virtual Pocket Console (or whatever it is called). :gamer: (I think I'm addicted to these new smiley's, or maybe they just fit the situation)
None of this matters to me - it's not like I play anything that has come out since 2007 (except Brawl).
It's not that I like older games better, it's just that I can't keep up anymore. :'(
At this rate, I'll get either a PSP or 3DS in 2030! (http://www.websitegoodies.com/smilies/character0032.gif)
Quote from: MasterDisk on January 29, 2011, 01:32:44 am
QuoteNintendo doesn't seem to focus on its best performance at all
Graphics do not make the game. ;)
NGP is just a copy of the iPhone with few buttons added. Also the button are oddly placed on the NGP.
Also:
Quote3DS has 3D-effect but to be honest that doesn't even matter to me because gaming was never about being able to play in 3D.
Hasn't Sony planned to make 3D games with the PS3 (that supposed console for gamers :crazy:). I'm sure people will play video games in 3D in the future.
Graphics don't determine the quality of a game, sure, but a machine's performance gives more room for interesting game design.
Comparing the NGP to an iphone is kind of silly.. It's more like a compromise between the PS3 and 3DS. The button position is the same classic orientation Sony's been using for 15 years.
Don't buy 3DS for 3D, but it for the multiplayer features. What would you be buying PSP2 for considering it's more expensive than a PS3?
In my opinion, Sony have lost this one again already, because they've failed to learn from the whole generation of DS and PSP. What is PSP2 offering? PS3 games on the move? They've got sixaxis and touch screen stuff in there but it's been squeezed in with no need. iPhone has touch but has no buttons, why would you have touch on a portable with buttons like they have? I saw a video of Drake climbing up a cliff and thought - why the heck would you use that slow clunky control scheme over just holding 'up' on a pad? In this case he actually had to let go of the buttons and touch the screen - it's lunacy. Then there's the freakin' price...
However, that's not the lesson I was talking about. In effect DS succeeded because it effectively offered a new type of play experience. Touchscreen was new and fun at the start of the lifecycle which meant DS had a bigger install base (more folks bought it). It was also cheaper. On top of that and most importantly, the games were cheaper to make.
Now, PSP offered nothing new games-wise that PS2 didn't do. It came with PS2 ports that had massive load times and the gameplay wasn't created with portability in mind. It sold on the back of its power and media features. Noticing a pattern here?
In the end both suffered greatly from piracy, but what the PSP failed on was lack of merit. I'm struggling to think of a game that was made for PSP that couldn't have been on PS2 and done evrything the same, with a bigger audience.
CURRENT GEN CONSOLE GAMES ON HANDHELDS DON'T WORK. Sure Mario 64 was fun and so was Dissidia, but compare those to something like Korg on DS, or Electroplankton or Prof. Layton. They were all made for portable gaming patterns. PSPs successes in my opinion didn't make any use of the PSP-specific features.
I can't see tons of publishers risking tens of millions of dollars (because that's what all competitive games cost to make) on PSP2 when they could release on PS3 and 360 with half the risk and more than double the potential reward. Heck, it's hard enough to get a profit from PS3 and 360 without even thinking of PSP2.
I think in the end, there won't be games on the PSP2 you wouldn't just get on PS3 and whn you consider the PS3 costs $250 and the PSP2 will cost more (they can't make and sell it for $250) then how does that make sense exactly???
3DS costs more than a 360 but with its 3D gimmick, streetpass and online functions it could, could be a contender against PS3 and 360 as long as it has the right titles at the right time. I think a lot of publishers have been burned by PSP2 before and sure it does great in Japan but Japan is not the market powerhouse it once was. You can't make games for Japan alone anymore really, let alone hardware.
I could go on and on about this, but I'm actually really disappointed that Sony's old-fashioned response was to act beligerantly and try and win on terms of power... Has a handheld EVER won on terms of power? Gameboy> Game Gear, DS> PSP, 3DS> NGP? :(