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Title: US Congress Trying to Ban On-Line Services + Legalize Internet Wiretapping
Post by: Xious on February 28, 2011, 07:34:37 pm
Those of you in the US, it's time to fight back! Normally, I don't go out of my way to share petitions or anything of the sort, but this is simply the kind of madness that needs flocks of people to help fight...

The same lunatics that just renewed the PATRIOT Act are also trying to pass an extension to CALEA (which shouldn't have been passed either), trying to remove your rights... In a nutshell, the extensions would make any Internet service illegal under US Federal Law if Big Brother couldn't easily wire-tap you, and descramble any encryption. This affects telecom services, like Skype, mobile Internet technologies, P2P services, text messaging and the like.  :pow:

If you are a US citizen of legal age to vote, I strongly urge you to connect with your local congressmen and fight this action! If you are a member of DemandProgress.org (I am, and I suggest them for anyone who wants to help protect their liberties), there is an Action to block this bill available here, along with the full write-up on it, and what Big Brother want to do to your rights. (http://act.demandprogress.org/sign/calea/?akid=289.224648.6ooUYw&rd=1&t=2)

Nobody owns the Internet: Please help stop Internet censorship and evil laws & bills like this... :bomb:
Title: Re: US Congress Trying to Ban On-Line Services + Legalize Internet Wiretapping
Post by: L___E___T on March 01, 2011, 03:05:08 am
How the heck would they even enforce this?
Title: Re: US Congress Trying to Ban On-Line Services + Legalize Internet Wiretapping
Post by: nensondubois on March 01, 2011, 09:02:22 pm
Quote from: Xious on February 28, 2011, 07:34:37 pm
Those of you in the US, it's time to fight back! Normally, I don't go out of my way to share petitions or anything of the sort, but this is simply the kind of madness that needs flocks of people to help fight...

The same lunatics that just renewed the PATRIOT Act are also trying to pass an extension to CALEA (which shouldn't have been passed either), trying to remove your rights... In a nutshell, the extensions would make any Internet service illegal under US Federal Law if Big Brother couldn't easily wire-tap you, and descramble any encryption. This affects telecom services, like Skype, mobile Internet technologies, P2P services, text messaging and the like.  :pow:

If you are a US citizen of legal age to vote, I strongly urge you to connect with your local congressmen and fight this action! If you are a member of DemandProgress.org (I am, and I suggest them for anyone who wants to help protect their liberties), there is an Action to block this bill available here, along with the full write-up on it, and what Big Brother want to do to your rights. (http://act.demandprogress.org/sign/calea/?akid=289.224648.6ooUYw&rd=1&t=2)

Nobody owns the Internet: Please help stop Internet censorship and evil laws & bills like this... :bomb:


You kidding? I told everyone I know about this except the forums, like I should have. Time to take out the trash who are destroying the 'Land of the free' like a true patriot (did I just say that I'm patriotic? WTF never thought I would, but we are facing desperate measures) We need all the help we can get. Move people, move!  :mario:

Though anyone would have a hell of a time trying to enforce their barrage on our freedoms.
Title: Re: US Congress Trying to Ban On-Line Services + Legalize Internet Wiretapping
Post by: petik1 on March 02, 2011, 02:41:28 pm
Just in case this happens, how much jail time is 10 pirated movies and three pirated games worth?  :-X
Title: Re: US Congress Trying to Ban On-Line Services + Legalize Internet Wiretapping
Post by: Xious on March 02, 2011, 05:24:08 pm
Quote from: L___E___T on March 01, 2011, 03:05:08 am
How the heck would they even enforce this?


They'd set up a blocklist covering IP-ranges, domains and ports, then send it to all ISPs and require them to comply.

ISPs and the major telecom companies are all-for this kind of law, as it's a big mo0ney-maker for them...

@ Petik_1: I think it's up to five-years per offense, but it could be ten. That's sixty-five years federal time... I guess if times get too tough to cover my living expenses, I can flog bootlegged films on the street for a nice stretch in the pen.

@nensondubois: Good to know that I'm not alone (here) in fighting this: Thank you for being a shining example of how citiens should behave in this country! The States have enough problems, most of which could've been averted if people fought to protected their rights! :bomb:
Title: Re: US Congress Trying to Ban On-Line Services + Legalize Internet Wiretapping
Post by: petik1 on March 02, 2011, 05:41:58 pm
Quote from: Xious on March 02, 2011, 05:24:08 pm
@ Petik_1: I think it's up to five-years per offense, but it could be ten. That's sixty-five years federal time... I guess if times get too tough to cover my living expenses, I can flog bootlegged films on the street for a nice stretch in the pen.


(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l7s3r5Oypv1qc0m6fo1_400.jpg)
Title: Re: US Congress Trying to Ban On-Line Services + Legalize Internet Wiretapping
Post by: L___E___T on March 03, 2011, 09:52:43 am
...and I thought the UK was turning into a grand nanny state.  I think the US see China's successes but this is not how to copy them...
Title: Re: US Congress Trying to Ban On-Line Services + Legalize Internet Wiretapping
Post by: Xious on March 03, 2011, 10:59:06 pm
That's essentially, what's happening. China and the E.U. are influencing ideas here: very socialistic ideas with a big-business-oriented capitalist twist.. I'm still afraid that the UK will cave to EU ideas... I'm stuck wondering where in the world I'd really want to live at this point: Isla de Fuego seems like a good choice at this point...

Everybody is trying to ban everything: It's a sickness, or madness, and is spreading as plague across the globe; what's safe and where is still sane?  :bomb:
Title: Re: US Congress Trying to Ban On-Line Services + Legalize Internet Wiretapping
Post by: L___E___T on March 04, 2011, 03:11:31 am
I actually nearly said Japan - then remembered it's completely insane in a thousand other ways.
Title: Re: US Congress Trying to Ban On-Line Services + Legalize Internet Wiretapping
Post by: nensondubois on March 04, 2011, 08:08:16 pm
Quote from: Xious on March 03, 2011, 10:59:06 pm
That's essentially, what's happening. China and the E.U. are influencing ideas here: very socialistic ideas with a big-business-oriented capitalist twist.. I'm still afraid that the UK will cave to EU ideas... I'm stuck wondering where in the world I'd really want to live at this point: Isla de Fuego seems like a good choice at this point...

Everybody is trying to ban everything: It's a sickness, or madness, and is spreading as plague across the globe; what's safe and where is still sane?  :bomb:


Tell everyone you know the fight back however they can weather it be sneaky or by brute force. Life will be http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0GFRcFm-aY
if we don't do something. What I'm planning I cannot discuss here just so you know, I'm not sitting on my ass letting trounce upon my freedoms.

Even worse is that the government is now trying to arrest people for sharing Youtube videos. Looks like the New World Order is trying to fasten it's foot in the door... something is definitely happening and we cannot let it win.
Title: Re: US Congress Trying to Ban On-Line Services + Legalize Internet Wiretapping
Post by: nintendodork on March 04, 2011, 09:49:41 pm
Quote from: nensondubois on March 04, 2011, 08:08:16 pm
Even worse is that the government is now trying to arrest people for sharing Youtube videos.
Got a source on that?
Title: Re: US Congress Trying to Ban On-Line Services + Legalize Internet Wiretapping
Post by: nensondubois on March 04, 2011, 10:32:43 pm
http://act.demandprogress.org/act/channelsurfing/?referring_akid%3Da1199451.158983.mesHxp%26source%3Dauto-e
Title: Re: US Congress Trying to Ban On-Line Services + Legalize Internet Wiretapping
Post by: Xious on March 09, 2011, 06:18:23 pm
Only further proof that not only is everything falling to pieces, but also that George Orwell knew what was happening and sensed it all coming, 62-years ago.

Are there any neutral islands left?  :bomb:
Title: Re: US Congress Trying to Ban On-Line Services + Legalize Internet Wiretapping
Post by: UglyJoe on March 09, 2011, 06:21:19 pm
Nah, Aldous Huxley had it right.  You don't get them with fear, you get them with complacency.  Who cares about wiretapping when you can watch Charlie Sheen melt down on TV!
Title: Re: US Congress Trying to Ban On-Line Services + Legalize Internet Wiretapping
Post by: petik1 on March 09, 2011, 07:00:07 pm
I don't understand how knowing what websites I'm on and what porn I watch is gonna help them find terrorists or whatever they say they're out for.
Title: Re: US Congress Trying to Ban On-Line Services + Legalize Internet Wiretapping
Post by: linkzpikachu on March 10, 2011, 12:26:09 pm
Quote from: petik1 on March 09, 2011, 07:00:07 pm
I don't understand how knowing what websites I'm on and what porn I watch is gonna help them find terrorists or whatever they say they're out for.

agreed.....only because its true..... ::)
Title: Re: US Congress Trying to Ban On-Line Services + Legalize Internet Wiretapping
Post by: MarioMania on March 10, 2011, 04:30:52 pm
So does this include Yahoo IM & MSN??
Title: Re: US Congress Trying to Ban On-Line Services + Legalize Internet Wiretapping
Post by: nensondubois on March 12, 2011, 04:24:16 pm
The proposed legislature wants to monitor and regulate all communications systems (not going to happen thankfully) so yes, IM and MSN are included.
Title: Re: US Congress Trying to Ban On-Line Services + Legalize Internet Wiretapping
Post by: MarioMania on March 13, 2011, 07:57:29 pm
I'm glad it's not happing

I don't want the goverment to watch who I chat with
Title: Re: US Congress Trying to Ban On-Line Services + Legalize Internet Wiretapping
Post by: nensondubois on March 13, 2011, 10:41:08 pm
Government also wants to mandate IDs for everyone. Beware on this one too. More than a few choice words should be given to the people responsible for all of this. Time is ticking... tick... tock...tick...tock...tick...tock!
Title: Re: US Congress Trying to Ban On-Line Services + Legalize Internet Wiretapping
Post by: nensondubois on May 12, 2011, 02:36:53 pm
Thought it was over? I knew it wasn't.

New shit the US congress is trying to spin up us.

http://act.demandprogress.org/sign/protectip_docs/?akid=616.158983.WXtRQ4&rd=1&t=2 -trying to take down the internet again. I will personally track the names of each company and boycott them if this goes through.
Title: Re: US Congress Trying to Ban On-Line Services + Legalize Internet Wiretapping
Post by: Parodius Duh on May 12, 2011, 02:45:30 pm
Canada, Here I come!!!!
Title: Re: US Congress Trying to Ban On-Line Services + Legalize Internet Wiretapping
Post by: nensondubois on May 12, 2011, 05:34:26 pm
Of course, you can always take the easy way out... temporarily... or you can fight to protect your freedoms. :bomb:
Title: Re: US Congress Trying to Ban On-Line Services + Legalize Internet Wiretapping
Post by: Xious on May 14, 2011, 01:21:21 am
I knew this would be ongoing... Firstly, we need to oust the congressmen with lobbyists that are pushing this type of bill. It's time for more details, and we need to track who votes 'yea' or 'nay' on it each time, and put the pressure on them directly.

Naturally, I've already signed the Demand Progress petition, which had over 325,000 signatures last time. Won't you sign it too? (hint)

The same asswipes are both trying to renew the PATRIOT Act (again) *and* make some of its provisions permanent law.

This is likely due to fears that it may eventually dissolve, as the American majority has been demanding for years. This bill needs to die forever!

Some of you are lucky enough to live in a place with progressive congressmen, and some are stuck with Sith lords. Write them anyway, and let them know that their re-election to any office and your future vote depends on them voting down both of these unconstitutional bills.

What we need here is a right of recall, 'no-confidence' vote for the American people to be able to recall any governmant official from office.

In fact, that would be a real 'Patriot Act'... :bomb:
Title: Re: US Congress Trying to Ban On-Line Services + Legalize Internet Wiretapping
Post by: RegalSin on May 15, 2011, 12:03:20 pm
Have you seen my post on how, they are attempting to tax electronic payments too?

http://www.famicomworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=6077.0


Basically those people sexting on MSN, and other related networks.
SKYPE is a widely used program that is going up against phone companies
.......

Your not going to get in trouble for using privatized programs for your own personal gain. Unless your going to canary FFVII:Advent Children

So how can we fight back? Boycott cars, cable tv, super markets, wireless phone, and tell Obama not to sign a bill that will force taxes on your electronic payments, and just elect the crazy lady.
Title: Re: US Congress Trying to Ban On-Line Services + Legalize Internet Wiretapping
Post by: nensondubois on May 16, 2011, 09:21:52 pm
Quote from: Xious on May 14, 2011, 01:21:21 am
I knew this would be ongoing... Firstly, we need to oust the congressmen with lobbyists that are pushing this type of bill. It's time for more details, and we need to track who votes 'yea' or 'nay' on it each time, and put the pressure on them directly.

Naturally, I've already signed the Demand Progress petition, which had over 325,000 signatures last time. Won't you sign it too? (hint)

The same asswipes are both trying to renew the PATRIOT Act (again) *and* make some of its provisions permanent law.

This is likely due to fears that it may eventually dissolve, as the American majority has been demanding for years. This bill needs to die forever!

Some of you are lucky enough to live in a place with progressive congressmen, and some are stuck with Sith lords. Write them anyway, and let them know that their re-election to any office and your future vote depends on them voting down both of these unconstitutional bills.

What we need here is a right of recall, 'no-confidence' vote for the American people to be able to recall any governmant official from office.

In fact, that would be a real 'Patriot Act'... :bomb:


The first thing I did was sign the Demand Progress petition, the second thing I did was tell everyone to do the same (each person was told differently to reflect how they naturally think to make it more likely for them to sign and spread the word... took hours, but hopefully the efforts will prove worthy.

Hopefully the Patriot Act bill be burned forever never becoming anywhere near permanent law.

I'm voting progressive all the way! The right-wingers also will be hearing from me.

Why, yes it would be.

Quote from: RegalSin on May 15, 2011, 12:03:20 pm
Have you seen my post on how, they are attempting to tax electronic payments too?

http://www.famicomworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=6077.0


Basically those people sexting on MSN, and other related networks.
SKYPE is a widely used program that is going up against phone companies
.......

Your not going to get in trouble for using privatized programs for your own personal gain. Unless your going to canary FFVII:Advent Children

So how can we fight back? Boycott cars, cable tv, super markets, wireless phone, and tell Obama not to sign a bill that will force taxes on your electronic payments, and just elect the crazy lady.


We fight back however we can... with as little death and destruction as possible. :mario: :yoshi:
Title: Re: US Congress Trying to Ban On-Line Services + Legalize Internet Wiretapping
Post by: Xious on August 09, 2011, 04:23:31 pm
The UK's proposed Internet Blaclist bill has been tossed!
Title: Re: US Congress Trying to Ban On-Line Services + Legalize Internet Wiretapping
Post by: nensondubois on August 09, 2011, 06:58:40 pm
I heard just hours ago! Possibly because of the riots, I'm guessing.

Now, here's another concern for all US residents:
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/08/the-legislation-that-could-kill-internet-privacy-for-good/242853/

http://jul.rustedlogic.net/thread.php?id=13721

Yip Yep.