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Title: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: petik1 on April 18, 2011, 07:11:49 pm
What are your thoughts on it? Given that its codename is "cafe", I'm assuming its going to be marketed towards an older demographic. I just hate all of these news sources calling it the "next wii console" or "wii 1.5" or "Wii HD". Most likely, it's not going to be a wii.
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: UglyJoe on April 18, 2011, 07:43:42 pm
I'll wait until they actually announce something before I form an opinion.
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: manuel on April 19, 2011, 12:12:30 am

This.

@petik1: Also young people visit cafes.  ;)
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: crade on April 19, 2011, 07:40:18 am
It's the next gamecube for sure.  They just released the next virtual boy and the wii is still too new.
Also, whatever it is it will probably still have weaker hardware than the xbox and ps3 :)
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: nintendodork on April 19, 2011, 09:48:58 am
^I strongly disagree with you.  There is no doubt in my mind that Nintendo's new console will be in HD.  And if not, it'll at least have component input.  I'm sure Nintendo's new console will be great, but like UglyJoe, I'm going to wait until there's more official news about it.
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: nensondubois on April 19, 2011, 10:15:55 am
Nintendo is rushing something else out? Sheesh! Stick with what people like... Famicom/NES, Super Nitnendo/Super Famicom, Gamecube, and the Game Boy... :upsetroll:
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: NintendoKing on April 19, 2011, 10:33:39 am
You need to minus Gamecube from that, and replace it with N64. Nintendo needs to make another N64 but call it Nintendo Revolution with modern graphic capabilities.
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: nensondubois on April 19, 2011, 11:06:50 am
Yeah, give the Nintendo 64 more than 4k or texture capability and with better drawing distance; maybe add an extra chip in the carts and bring the DD to America?
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: crade on April 19, 2011, 03:39:00 pm
Quote from: nintendodork on April 19, 2011, 09:48:58 am
^I strongly disagree with you.  There is no doubt in my mind that Nintendo's new console will be in HD.  And if not, it'll at least have component input.  I'm sure Nintendo's new console will be great, but like UglyJoe, I'm going to wait until there's more official news about it.

Well, I think Sony is still taking a loss on their hardware, and I know damn well Nintendo isn't going to sell their HW at a loss (or anywhere even remotely close), so it's either going to be weaker (hw capability-wise, which is not to say it's a worse system) or it's going to cost a fortune.
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: petik1 on April 19, 2011, 04:00:23 pm
Quote from: crade on April 19, 2011, 03:39:00 pm
Quote from: nintendodork on April 19, 2011, 09:48:58 am
^I strongly disagree with you.  There is no doubt in my mind that Nintendo's new console will be in HD.  And if not, it'll at least have component input.  I'm sure Nintendo's new console will be great, but like UglyJoe, I'm going to wait until there's more official news about it.

Well, I think Sony is still taking a loss on their hardware, and I know damn well Nintendo isn't going to sell their HW at a loss (or anywhere even remotely close), so it's either going to be weaker (hw capability-wise, which is not to say it's a worse system) or it's going to cost a fortune.


It's been six years since XBOX 360 and PS3 came out. The hardware has gotten cheaper to manufacture. Nintendo should at least have 360 comparable graphics to compete. There have been hints that MS and Sony won't release a new console until 2013, 2014, thanks to Kinect and Move. I just want a capable, fun game system.
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: manuel on April 20, 2011, 03:43:38 am
That also sound unrealistic to me. I mean 6 inches is pretty huge. Even the NGP will "only" have a 5 inch screen.
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: crade on April 20, 2011, 08:20:59 am
Quote from: manuel on April 20, 2011, 03:43:38 am
I mean 6 inches is pretty huge.


I think she is just saying that to make you feel better...   ::)
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: petik1 on April 20, 2011, 02:09:47 pm
Now that I think of it, yeah, that's unreal. My phone has a 4.3" screen, and that's too big to fit on a controller.
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: Pikkon on April 21, 2011, 06:01:01 pm
Nintendo already sent out dev kits to developers,so yes this is for real.
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: L___E___T on April 22, 2011, 11:01:37 am
Promise you guys this is for real, I first heard about it last year.  E3 reveal.
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: L___E___T on April 23, 2011, 04:01:22 am
I reckon they should have debugs now if not pretty soon.  I haven't seen anything, but I know Japan had something middle of last year.  You'll see debug images soon.
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: NintendoKing on April 23, 2011, 08:00:16 am
Nintendo is guaranteed to make something completely ridiculous and over priced, I am afraid to see this nightmare of a console. Wii was and still is a terrible console, it only sold so many units because it's cheap. I know a old man down the street that bought one just for netflixs and nothing else.

The last 2 generations of Nintendo consoles only survived because they were super inexpensive to purchase.

Heck, I owned a XBOX for gaming in the last gen, and a Gamecube to play my gameboy games on the tv. That was the only reason to own a Gamecube. Just like the only reason to own a Wii is for Netflix.
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: petik1 on April 23, 2011, 08:39:18 am
Quote from: The Uninvited Gremlin on April 23, 2011, 08:00:16 am
Just like the only reason to own a Wii is for Netflix.


Or, ya know, virtual console and excellent first party games  :upsetroll:
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: NintendoKing on April 23, 2011, 09:00:02 am
Nah, you need to own a PS3 or XBOX 360 if you want those features. I admit a few Wii games are decent but it doesnt justify calling it a game console.
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: L___E___T on April 24, 2011, 10:18:35 am
Wii virtual console is amazing!  I mean the one done properly through the homebrew channel :)

I agree everything is hideously overpriced.  The ones worth getting end up charged more as premium 'Japanese festival' games which is really annoying.

Nintendo's new console was just confirmed by the way, for those that are interested.  No images yet - those shown so far are fakes.
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: L___E___T on April 26, 2011, 07:43:00 am
As much as I love Nintendo, the homebrew emulators provide so many more options over an above what the official virtual console does. 
I'm happy to pay reasonable prices so I have picked up a few N64 and PC Engine games, the odd SMS game etc, but being forced to play PAL Sonic, waiting for lengthy release schedules for all 5 versions of Street Fighter etc is absurd.  Nintendo treat Virtual Console like they do traditional release schedules when what they SHOULD have done is flood the thing with perfect ports from the get-go.
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: Pikkon on April 26, 2011, 04:54:13 pm
Here is a pic of the dev kit,can anyone confirm this.

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/pikkonson/wii2cns1.jpg)

Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: petik1 on April 26, 2011, 05:15:14 pm
That looks on par with what I've seen.  Don't get to carried away with its design, remember that its a dev kit, everyone.
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: nintendodork on April 26, 2011, 05:53:58 pm
Your link broke, Pikkon.
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: NintendoKing on April 26, 2011, 06:22:27 pm
(http://www.cubed3.com/media/2011/April/wii2cns2.jpg)
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: nintendodork on April 26, 2011, 06:24:42 pm
Maybe it's just me.  I tried directly going to that link though and I get a 404.

Edit: Wait a minute, my SercureIT virus protection is blocking the website.  This is the only virus protection I've ever used that's actually completely prevented me from going to a website without giving me a choice.  This sucks.
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: Pikkon on April 26, 2011, 10:01:11 pm
I threw the pic on my photobucket so you should be able to see it now.
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: L___E___T on April 27, 2011, 06:07:53 am
Pikkon those are fakes buddy.
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: Pikkon on April 27, 2011, 04:59:47 pm
Ahh,thanks.Thats why I said can someone confirm this.
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: L___E___T on April 28, 2011, 12:06:38 pm
Well, unless there are multiple models of the same kit... :S

You'd think if someone was going to mock up a fake, they wouldn't just make it look like an internet café router, right? :D
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: FamicomRetroGamer on May 16, 2011, 02:57:27 pm
I've given it a personal name "Nintendo BluHD" (with a Blu-ray Player and in HD).

Not too certain it'll be way-way better than PS3 or Xbox 360, but will definitely have better hardware this time, I suppose by what has been said.

The original Super Mario Brothers NES remastered in 1080p would be beautiful, because you could see every detail clearly and in High Definition.

Nintendo probably won't remaster SMB NES, so it's just a dream.

N this time will either use Blu-ray Disc for their games or all in digital format.

Wii games on DVD were a waste because without the junk most of them have, if not all, could easily fit onto a CD.
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: nintendodork on May 16, 2011, 08:10:45 pm
What are you on? 

There are hardly any Wii games under a gigabyte, much less 650-900 megabytes.

Although it would be kind of cool, there aren't very many "details" in SMB that really need to be displayed in 1080p.

What makes you think they'll use Blu-ray?  If Nintendo is supposedly so far behind in this generation, how can you be sure about anything for the next?
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: L___E___T on May 17, 2011, 05:35:01 am
Blu-Ray was already rumoured, but to me taht's odd because it requires a licensing deal with Sony and a royalty on every game sold.

It's probably another GC-esque Blu-Ray type disc, heck we'll know in a few weeks.

Is anyone here going to E3?  Send me a PM if you are please!  Squee!

p.s. hi-def SMB would be awesome (Infinity Blade style), but sadly that's not SMB, that's Zelda's playing field.
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: UglyJoe on June 07, 2011, 09:48:16 am
(http://i.imgur.com/BdgBn.jpg)
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: petik1 on June 07, 2011, 09:54:09 am
They keep calling that a controller. This can't be all.

EDIT: I was right
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: UglyJoe on June 07, 2011, 12:01:36 pm
Fact sheet: http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/htwfy/new_nintendo_console_wii_u_fact_sheet/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/htwfy/new_nintendo_console_wii_u_fact_sheet/)
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: petik1 on June 07, 2011, 12:49:14 pm
I was going to kill myself if it were just a controller for the Wii. Good thing that its' an actual console. Although, Nintendo really did a shitty job explaining what was going on.
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: RegalSin on June 07, 2011, 02:36:28 pm
So let me translate for the people who has not seen threw their Nipponese Evil Plan.

A. They are going to release the same system with new features, and pretend their original system was not enough.

B. The controller was originally going to be apart of the NDS player that should also play original gameboy games, but instead it is only going to play GBA games. Since any idiot can make a NDS emulator and craft an pre-exsisting screen controller.

C. People are going make sex :cherry: games, like that tickle game for the NDS, and you can guess the rest. I mean like oh wow, did I just use my lower middle :octorok: middle finger :help: says toadstool as you slide your throbing index on her plastic :coin:.

D. Then the westerners children, and current Nintenzombies will spend more time using their  :octorok: against toadstools plastic :coin: making her  :cherry:
boil over. This will continue, as the population decreases more Asians will immigrant, into the USA and finally the true nature will occur

(http://news.3yen.com/wp-content/images/whale-killer.jpg)

EAT THE WHALE MEAT!!!!!!!!



You all thought I was going to use.....the other phrase.



Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: ericj on June 07, 2011, 04:09:25 pm
How cold you has not seen threw there Evil Plan.....I mean like wow how obveeus.
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: MS-DOS4 on June 07, 2011, 04:57:55 pm
I am so confused.
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: manuel on June 07, 2011, 05:07:16 pm
Why are you confused.
It all seems OK and easy to understand to me...  :star:

I'll probably not get the WiiU at launch. Maybe after a few years...
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: UglyJoe on June 07, 2011, 05:36:14 pm
From the demo videos, it kinda looks like Pacman VS: The Console.  Which is totally awesome in my book.
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: petik1 on June 07, 2011, 07:19:26 pm
I swear regalsin's rants are translated through 12 different languages before he posts them.
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: NintendoKing on June 07, 2011, 09:54:56 pm
This system is a joke, it's like copying a Dreamcast controller and fusing it with a NDS then slightly enhancing the Wii's graphics... It's basically the same as Wii just rounded a bit. Very nice Nintendo... :/
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: Jedi Master Baiter on June 08, 2011, 12:22:36 am
Nintendo's steam = out

I'm calling it now.
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: petik1 on June 08, 2011, 03:45:07 am
Quote from: The Uninvited Gremlin on June 07, 2011, 09:54:56 pm
This system is a joke, it's like copying a Dreamcast controller and fusing it with a NDS then slightly enhancing the Wii's graphics... It's basically the same as Wii just rounded a bit. Very nice Nintendo... :/


I completely disagree.

1. That is definitely not a Dreamcast controller. More like an iPad with buttons. According to reports, it comfortable to hold and lighter than you'd think.
2. Did you see the Wii U's tech demo?
3. Well in that respect, we could say the same about the XBOX and XBOX 360.
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: RegalSin on June 08, 2011, 10:29:40 am
 :mario: http://www.olganon.org/ :gamer:
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: FamicomRetroGamer on June 08, 2011, 06:23:55 pm
I'm actually very disappointed, the name for starters makes no sense for a console, the game footage they used at E3 was from 360/PS3 and the huge controller is just a cashcow for Nintendo.

I've lost hope that Nintendo would ever go back to the 90's quality.

Wii U is the best name you could come up with, Nintendo?! -.-"
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: petik1 on June 08, 2011, 07:48:40 pm
Huh, I guess I'm the only one who's optimistic. I just say, wait and see. Nintendo has never failed to surprise when it comes to home consoles.




Virtual Boy not included.
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: nintendodork on June 08, 2011, 09:49:11 pm
Quote from: petik1 on June 08, 2011, 07:48:40 pm
I just say, wait and see.
Me too.  I don't necessarily like what I'm seeing right now, but Nintendo has usually always pulled through for me.  I even liked the Virtual Boy.
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: MasterDisk on June 08, 2011, 10:48:02 pm
Quote from: FamicomRetroGamer on June 08, 2011, 06:23:55 pm
I'm actually very disappointed, the name for starters makes no sense for a console, the game footage they used at E3 was from 360/PS3 and the huge controller is just a cashcow for Nintendo.

I've lost hope that Nintendo would ever go back to the 90's quality.

Wii U is the best name you could come up with, Nintendo?! -.-"


It could be a prototype name. Remember the Wii was called Revolution in 2005. And if we go back in 1984, the NES was named Advanced Video System.

But yeah the idea looks good. The only downside will be the battery of the controller.
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: son_ov_hades on June 09, 2011, 01:21:24 pm
I think the WiiU looks awesome, and I'll probably buy one on launch day.
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: FamicomRetroGamer on June 09, 2011, 05:59:49 pm
Apart from what I've disliked about Wii 2, it certainly looks fantastic the console's hardware and software.

I wonder how the regular controller will be, something between NGC's (analogue stick up left and the 2nd analogue stick down right) and Wii's would be great.

Still, I don't see myself buying it, since I own PS3/X360 and haven't yet bought most of my favourite titles.

Wii 2 with a Blu-ray Player but it'll only legally play games? Who knows. If it's like the Wii, it legitimately only played games but when hacked it could be used as a DVD Player.

Wii 2 looks like a win-win for now (the name "WiiU" is a fail).
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: tappybot on June 10, 2011, 05:23:39 am
Personally not impressed. Was hoping to be pleasantly surprised.  Instead  I feel like this could be the nail in the coffin as far as my love for Nintendo goes.

They're a completely different company than they were 15 years ago..
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: L___E___T on June 12, 2011, 08:29:43 am
I really wanted to see this announcement - I'm a huge Nintendo fan - but I don't think I'll be buying this.  I'm getting an iPad 2 instead in Famicom colours.
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: FamicomRetroGamer on June 12, 2011, 09:59:02 am
Quote from: L___E___T on June 12, 2011, 08:29:43 am
I really wanted to see this announcement - I'm a huge Nintendo fan - but I don't think I'll be buying this.  I'm getting an iPad 2 instead in Famicom colours.


With Famicom's skin colour it must look awesome, do you have an exact picture of it?

Nothing certain came up when I googled for "iPad 2 Famicom".
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: L___E___T on June 12, 2011, 10:07:23 am
Sorry, it's just a bit of a joke - white ipad 2 with red cover and a Nintendo logo or two ;)
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: modeltfordman on June 30, 2011, 06:25:18 pm
I do not think I'm going to jump on this. I was hoping for something else not an updated wii with a mini screen. I'll wait and see what games are coming out before running to the register to buy a wiiu.
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: Xious on June 30, 2011, 08:15:53 pm
Quote from: manuel on April 20, 2011, 03:43:38 am
That also sound unrealistic to me. I mean 6 inches is pretty huge. Even the NGP will "only" have a 5 inch screen.


The MK-I Atari Lynx, with all of its awesome wideness could accommodate a six-inch diagonal LCD. Additionally, there are very low-power-consumption LCD modules out there.

It's still an overcomplicated heap built for 3-D-immersion obsessed American gamers that need fifteen control buttons and a spinner to execute a jump.

I would also expect your Wii-net to go south once this launches... :bomb:
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: nensondubois on June 30, 2011, 08:54:12 pm
Quote from: tappybot on June 10, 2011, 05:23:39 am
Personally not impressed. Was hoping to be pleasantly surprised.  Instead  I feel like this could be the nail in the coffin as far as my love for Nintendo goes.

They're a completely different company than they were 15 years ago..


That is why they suck now. Also, how Nintendo is rushing everything, you have a tell-tail sign of suckage.
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: FamicomFreak on June 30, 2011, 10:03:37 pm
I lost my love for Nintendo back when the 64 came out....
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: Cheetahmen on July 01, 2011, 03:05:18 am
Quote from: FamicomFreak on June 30, 2011, 10:03:37 pm
I lost my love for Nintendo back when the 64 came out....
Other the limited space on the carts, I don't really see what was wrong with the N64. It's a thousand times better than the Wii (and likely the Wii U) to say the least.
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: FamicomRetroGamer on July 01, 2011, 03:19:14 am
Quote from: Cheetahmen on July 01, 2011, 03:05:18 am
Quote from: FamicomFreak on June 30, 2011, 10:03:37 pm
I lost my love for Nintendo back when the 64 came out....
Other the limited space on the carts, I don't really see what was wrong with the N64. It's a thousand times better than the Wii (and likely the Wii U) to say the least.


This:

(http://www.videogamecentral.com/product_images/b/856/yhst-37444749384866_2146_35332868__36862_zoom.jpg)

I've tried to make myself comfortable playing with this (PoS controller) but it just doesn't suit me or how the hell to hold it properly.

The "best" controller I've seen for N64 is this one:

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/21oyJqDsjiL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

It's still crap.

Other than the awkward controller, N64 was a pretty good console.
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: nintendodork on July 01, 2011, 03:54:29 am
They were only trying to stand out.  I mean, how could you pass by a three-handled controller and not start to wonder about what it does? :P  Most of the games I play on the N64 don't use the D-pad, so I generally hold it as if only the middle and right handles were there.  No big deal. I also have a HORI controller that's shaped like a Gamecube controller (and has added a second Z button so they're symmetrical) which also works quite well.

(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r189/batman877/N64_Hori4.jpg)
Not my picture.  Mine's green, but you get the idea.
Title: Re: Nintendo's New Console
Post by: petik1 on July 01, 2011, 04:41:12 am
What people don't realize is that you would never use all of the buttons on the n64 controller. you either held the left and right handle, the center and right, or the left and center.