Famicom World

I am just going to say the truth.

Nintendo screwed everybody over, even before the Famicom years. From the time that Nintendo was taken over by the "snot nosed brat" to when Nintendo screwed SONY over, they are a complete failure. Yes they are a great game company, they have made many various products that has tons of uses, but we have to admit the truth. Nintendo is for children. Children will come and go, and play. Parents will continue to purchase Nintendo as an end all to toys. However considering the Nintendo as a game machine nowadays. No.

I just know it, and I am not going to say it. Even if Nintendo did what we have allways dreamed about them doing, and made it work, I would still not purchase another "Malibu Stacy" product from them.
From my perspective, I could imagine a bunch of corperate executives trying to create intrest into a Cocobo that has been draged threw the mud and even has cybernetic parts.

This thing has to be big, huge, and hits hard without stopping.

Companies only make what they believe will sell best, and position it in the marketplace to target certain consumer groups. Basic business shit. Nintendo hit on many segments with the Wii, including gamers, children, and the elderly. Software (games) is another issue, but this thread is about the console. You over-generalize and under-think, RegalSin...

Think of it like this: The SNES was a "little kids'" system, and look how much ass it kicks, and how many units it sold. I think eventually we'll come to terms with ourselves and realize "Hey, the Wii wasn't that bad!". I compare the Wii to the SNES, and the Genesis to the XBOX 360; although they have different pros and cons from their 16 bit counterparts, the competition is the same.

This isn't "OH NO NINTENDO IS FOR LITTLE GIRLS NOW WTF IS THIS?". They've always been for little kids. You never hear "Yeah, I was 25 and playing my Nintendo...". It's always "I was 8 and playing my Nintendo..."

In conclusion, Nintendo hasn't stooped to little kids. You've grown up. Your taste in games is different. You're becoming just another 360 or PS3 fanboy. Deal with it.

(PS this isn't directed towards anyone specifically, just the gaming community in general.)

I am getting that Smithy cornered in the factory treatment. I have been threw what you folks have been threw already, I have heard the same thing over and over again. They made good games, we grewed up with, and should continue to enjoy. From a sellers perspective, this is a great thing, It is just that I can't swim in a feild of lost hope, no matter how many Flower Powers, and Maples Syrup moments there are. I can't do it.

In terms of consumerism feel like that soilder from "Wizards" I don't wanna fight anymore". I feel that I am being led off a cliff with Nintendo. We are talking about something that is non-exsistant, and I am having flash backs to all the times I spent playing X systems. Like the saying, an Elephant never forgets, and after being a consumer.

Look at the GCN, all they had to do was create an all in one upgrade, that would seat below the Cube. They could have charged 200 and saved tons of money on plastic. Then pull the "PSN/X-box live" rabbit out of their hats, and provide another intresting 2d market for people. They could have redesigned the cube from the ground up, with all the trimmings, and even play the mini-mizing Playstion game.

The main focus was to launch an online network, and provide content for all users, while rehashing the past, and the consumer could, or think whatever they want with the device.

Like all of those people outside rambling about the "Judgement day on the 21st"
We will see.

Quote from: RegalSin on May 19, 2011, 02:43:05 am
... and I am having flash backs to all the times I spent playing X systems. Like the saying, an Elephant never forgets, and after being a consumer.

Did you forget to end this sentence?  I don't quite understand this.

Quote from: RegalSin on May 19, 2011, 02:43:05 am
Like all of those people outside rambling about the "Judgement day on the 21st"
It will be different from what those crazy people are rambling about.

Fixed.

Quote from: RegalSin on May 18, 2011, 04:16:29 pm
They are a complete failure.

Come back when you sober up.

I'm getting bored of Regal's conspiracies and pessimistic prose.  Maybe that's off-topic, but ironically that's now on-topic.  Sorry Regal, it's bit nuts though.

I am just too big to a be a consumer anymore. It is like an omega turn off.
I am going backwards :diskkun:

From what I remember. A person won some money, used it to create the Cd-i, inconjunction with Nintendo. However Nintendo was already previously working in secret with SONY to create the sound system the SNES uses today. Then when that was founded out, SONY and Nintendo officially agreed to make the SNES2 add-on.  Nintendo said nothing to SONY, and when they left, SONY just refashioned it into the PSX.

Seriously, one big failure as mentioned before. More importantly since the MSX people in Japan, was obviously going to jump on the SONY wagon, why did Nintendo made such a stupid decision to begin with.

Lets make a system with a non-Japanese developer, who does not understand vidoegames as a medium, and let them make some games, of their own. Seriously, at the time, of it's creativity what the hell was Nintendo thinking.

Personally I doubt that Philips was really going to thrive at all. Like AT&T trying to make a network play system for the NES and Genesis, while one was already done in Japan.

Like Atari, they did not even understood what people should feel, when they touch this thing.

Quote from: RegalSin on May 29, 2011, 09:02:41 am
From what I remember. A person won some money, used it to create the Cd-i, inconjunction with Nintendo. However Nintendo was already previously working in secret with SONY to create the sound system the SNES uses today. Then when that was founded out, SONY and Nintendo officially agreed to make the SNES2 add-on.  Nintendo said nothing to SONY, and when they left, SONY just refashioned it into the PSX.

I've never heard that story before.  That one sounds a lot less viable than the other one. A lot less...

No thanks to RegalSin, this is now totally off topic. Why don't we talk about the specs and rumors of Nintendo's new console again?

Okay but first, WIKIPEDIA IS NOT A SOURCE FOR ANYTHING.

Back on topic. Seriously after what Nintendo did as a financial decision to
dump the GCN ( like they dumped the DD64, SNES2, and GB3D :upsetroll: )
why should we continue to support them? What could they possible do, to make things better?

3D display television? With no glasses

You can get a Wonka bar just by reaching for the screen?

Teleportation threw the TV screen?

Oh I know, lets build the same console, over again but install spyware. Be just like that movie, 1984. But a cute character will amuse you until the police cut threw the lighting, slides down, and put a duffle bag over our heads.

They are going to allow you to MSN ( video phone ) chat with everybody, and then the goverment is going to force people to only have video phones with spy camera inside of it, just like your cable box :crazy:

How about this one, we can now back slap yoshi, everytime he tries to eat Mario's hat. Then go back to using the paddle in school, and being spanked by an officer like in Europe. Just like the good ole days :pacman: Parents, Nuns, preachers, and even strangers will be enticed, to smack each other around, while giving the smackdown (  beating ) traumatization into somebodies children, and their own. :cherry:

Maybe Nintendo will put teaching software, like the so many teaching software that is out their, a whole new 2nd life simulator that is not Phantasy Star Online. :pow:

Now you're just talking nonsense. I invite others to post more sane messages.

Quote from: RegalSin on May 30, 2011, 04:38:03 am
Okay but first, WIKIPEDIA IS NOT A SOURCE FOR ANYTHING.

Back on topic. Seriously after what Nintendo did as a financial decision to
dump the GCN ( like they dumped the DD64, SNES2, and GB3D :upsetroll: )
why should we continue to support them? What could they possible do, to make things better?

3D display television? With no glasses

You can get a Wonka bar just by reaching for the screen?

Teleportation threw the TV screen?

Oh I know, lets build the same console, over again but install spyware. Be just like that movie, 1984. But a cute character will amuse you until the police cut threw the lighting, slides down, and put a duffle bag over our heads.

They are going to allow you to MSN ( video phone ) chat with everybody, and then the goverment is going to force people to only have video phones with spy camera inside of it, just like your cable box :crazy:

How about this one, we can now back slap yoshi, everytime he tries to eat Mario's hat. Then go back to using the paddle in school, and being spanked by an officer like in Europe. Just like the good ole days :pacman: Parents, Nuns, preachers, and even strangers will be enticed, to smack each other around, while giving the smackdown (  beating ) traumatization into somebodies children, and their own. :cherry:

Maybe Nintendo will put teaching software, like the so many teaching software that is out their, a whole new 2nd life simulator that is not Phantasy Star Online. :pow:

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_li4ywuZlW41qgm6edo1_400.jpg)

Yikes - all of his crazy babble...

Anyway, I'm going to E3 to see it in person, It's a week away so I'm just going to wait until then.

I bet a can of dog food, Nintendo is pulling shenanigans on us, once again. But if they manage to impress me, I will eat that can of dog food  :mspacman: from the can.

Don't look into the Typeface L_E_T, don't look into the Typeface.

I have no idea what that means, but I have a bet on with a colleague too about Café. 

Whatever the case, Nintendo will keep making money and I strongly believe they know what they're doing.  It's Sony I worry about, as they seem so misguided and don't seem to learn, but that's another story.

You have to rememebr that Nintendo has always been for younger gamers (kids and adults included) though and that strategy is what's made them so successful; over the years.  I can assure it's waaay easier to market to younger gamers than it is older folks and I think that has a lot to do with it.

Whine about Wii if you like, but I'd have still bought one just for the first party games.
Remember, nobody is forcing you to buy anything so under no circumstances are you being 'screwed'.

Its a little hard to respond to the ramblings of a troll so I'll just keep it simple and just address the thread's title.

(cough cough)

Aren't video games supposed to be for children??? 

Including adult children like myself?

OK.  That is all I got.

Yes that is right nobody is forcing us, but to play X game people "strongly believes" they need to get this system. I am talking about all of us sending letters, emails to the ceo's, programmers, and offices demanding support for the GCN, at least.

Famicom world users, look back on the Famicom. Family Computer. A machine meant for the family. Family fun. Which could be anybody or anything. However many people, even the real "gamers" of the NECer, MSXers, Amiga's, and even Atario's out their all was amazed and delighted by it. Then SEGA, SONY, and even Mafiasoft oozed on down, the road, attempting to pull a leg at Nintendo's game. Even if all if this was all generated from an idea from a person who was not a programmer at all.

I kinda feel like this when I think about Nintendo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20p6sE4TrKw..

Nobody forced us, but nobody told us how to stop. Out of the Ashes, I eventually removed myself from the loop of being a Nintendo fan. No more I will sing and dance in their praise ( unless paid ), and pretend, everything will be okay.

What's your native language, RegalSin? I've yet to make any sense out of your ramblings...maybe it's because you use too many phrases and expressions in your writing. Regardless, your writing lacks clarity and concision.

Where were you going with that Gamecube part...?

Honestly, who gives a shit about the Gamecube?

Quote from: Mi5terDNA on June 03, 2011, 10:07:32 am
I mean it plays gameboy games alright  :P

That's really the only reason I still have my Gamecube.

Not only that, they make that add-on that allows Wii gameplay, Netflix, and and Wii network whatever, I too will be able to enjoy all that Wii stuff. Everybody would be like, nooooo waayyyssss!!! about the Super Cubers

Quote from: RegalSin on June 03, 2011, 03:30:41 pm
Not only that, they make that add-on that allows Wii gameplay, Netflix, and and Wii network whatever, I too will be able to enjoy all that Wii stuff. Everybody would be like, nooooo waayyyssss!!! about the Super Cubers

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Quote from: RegalSin on June 03, 2011, 07:17:40 am
Nobody forced us, but nobody told us how to stop. No more I will sing and dance in their praise ( unless paid ), and pretend, everything will be okay.

Everything is okay.  There's nothing wrong with what Nintendo's doing.  You're talking about this like it's an addiction when you say "nobody told us how to stop."  If you don't like it, then quit playing the games.  No one's going to tell you to do anything else.  So just stop playing the games and stop rambling on about this.  I'm going to ask the same question as ericj; what exactly is your native language?

That is right you have a choice. To not buy the next system for absolutely no reason at all, and just stick with what you have, and play what you never sampled before. Or you could believe the following.

(http://www.gamepodunk.com/uploads/6ff779e981252d85983dcc60a5200ecc.jpg)
Come on who are going to believe. A PR with plastic lips, or some random nut from the internetz, that calls itself RegalSin?

Sega Sanshiro, I think not :diskkun:

We also have this guy

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lets not forget about her

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Familiar isn't it :blinky:

Quote from: RegalSin on June 04, 2011, 03:55:29 pm
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This guy's face makes me not want to buy ANYTHING Nintendo-related.

Third request for native language.

I think you should wait for E3 before you call out Nintendo on their system.

Quote from: MasterDisk on June 05, 2011, 07:12:19 am
What Nintendo talk people have to do with that ?

I don't understand - do you mean what does Reggie have to do with this?  More than you'd expect, he's the director of the NA region and calls most of the sales and marketing decisions for that region, a little over half the entire global market share...

So he has some weight (lol) :D

Regardless if Nintendo's got superior or inferior products, they always seem to be the game company which sell more consoles than the other two's.

Quality > Quantity

Wii had/has a lot of shovelware, but with WiiU, Nintendo's confident that hardcore gamers will buy it, there's simply no more restrictions between WiiU and PS3/X360 they are all equal now.

By the way, can't wait for Sonic Generations, but ordered Sonic Unleashed (much better than the crap Sonic 4 was) so it'll do until SG is released. :)

Quote from: FamicomRetroGamer on June 09, 2011, 12:11:41 pm
Wii had/has a lot of shovelware, but with WiiU, Nintendo's confident that hardcore gamers will buy it, there's simply no more restrictions between WiiU and PS3/X360 they are all equal now.

The Wii U definitely plays graphical catchup to the PS3 and 360, but whether or not its online capabilities will be anywhere north of suck is yet to be known.  If online multiplayer on the Wii U isn't leaps and bounds better than the Wii, then hardcore gamers will be sticking to PS3 and 360 for sure.