Blu-rays and DVD's from now on will be using UltraViolet technology, which is this:
QuoteUltraViolet is a cloud-based library of your digital possessions. When you buy your first UltraViolet Blu-ray disc and slot it into your Blu-ray player at home, it will connect to the internet and ask you to make an account. This Blu-ray disc will then be forever connected to your UltraViolet account.
Complete news here: http://www.extremetech.com/computing/90096-ultraviolet-streaming-cloud-based-blu-ray-and-dvd-video-is-coming
Oh well, I knew digital was going to be the next format after Blu-ray but coming this early already was kind of unexpected.
I think it won't completely bother me, because I'll just buy the Blu-ray Discs and DVD's I like, not blind buys or anything.
We're going from this:
Blu-ray and DVD's
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To this:
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Once digital takes over completely, I'll just continue to buy Blu-rays and DVD's as I used to, don't like to buy stuff in digital format.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3BA_fpDhbQ
It will never fly.
FOX must realize the majority of televsion watchers, have money and are that stupid to spend money for something that is free. We have been doing this cloud computing ( P2P ) for years, and people are idiots, to actually think this is great thing. Cassettes, Disc, and Film are still a better storage media type. I have more to say but I leave you with this thought. I blame boomers, my entire generation was shitted on by them, and if you want to really smack somebody over the head. Hit an actor, because they are the only one who is not affected by this. Stop supporting teather arts, all teather must be destroyed.
If it flys then this proves that consumers are dumber then anything you could imagine.
What you don't understand is that, like the Apple Iphone, or Nintendo Weed system. They have to select, what can and cannot be sold. Meaning all those B-movies will never make the list ( unless it is commecial piss on like
Pirates of the Carribean )
Dinsey Owns Marvel, they made their own "Kick Ass" Comic book staring a youth in a spider-man costume. They make a big deal about his race. OMGsh!!!
FOX
Dinsey
Marvel ( new Marvel )
Nintendo
and sad as I say it
Capcom
SquareSoft
are all the piss of the comemrcial world in todays world. I tell you to stop buying new products from them, and slap an actor on the back of their head, to show how you feel about pay-television.
Again I hate to say it.
Burn MTV, and hang the creator of Aeon Flux and stuff his mouth with shards of Reign the Conqueror. Traitor bastard,
The bastards..................!!!!!!!!!!!
INSTEAD GO TO CHANNEL101.COM, and burn a FOX flag while your at it.
It's funny when people say "digital will never be the standard" just look at the facts, no matter how you/I hate it matters.
Apple makes a crapload of money from iTune store, Valve from their Steam game store, Microsoft from Xbox LIVE (games / videos / music / etc), etc.
Denying that digital won't take over is just silly.
Lets talk about the consumer race.
Lets talk about America for the last five or six decades.
After WWII it was peace. Peace as in, we are no longer in the lost era.
Peace as in lets go outside shopping.
Thanks to inflation, the value of things appear to rises.
The reason why people stopped walking around in suits ( asides that one actor on television ).
The reason why Valudaville was replaced by radio and then television.
Things became too expensive.
When I buy a loaf of bread. I am buying bread for the fact
I am too dumb, busy, lazy, tired, I make so much money, I can pay some poor store owner or supermarket to sell me the damn bread itself.
The bread goes inside my body and out the crapper, and into flippers mouth.
Now what is the difference between media products and Bread???
Bread dissapears
Bread is not resellable
Storing Bread is kind of insane on a standard ( low-life, salary ) level.
Most likely nobody would ever want my bread, since they could just buy it.
WHen I buy a god damn video it better be something I can hold and look at
without a VCD, VHS, or even DVD player, and so forth. Their are certain exceptions.
Quote from: FamicomRetroGamer on August 06, 2011, 05:05:51 pm
It's funny when people say "digital will never be the standard" just look at the facts, no matter how you/I hate it matters.
Let me tell you, who is buying to this. Young adults, who are too damn poor to have concept of value at all. That is who, they grow up saying " ( Romania, France, Japan, Korea , America, Bombay, England, Brazil, Hawaii, Jamacia,
Antartica, and so forth ) is shite", $#$#$# my country is shite, we never make anything ( place positive word of choice ), everything is brainwashed, everything is downgraded, everything is blah blah blah.
These people have yet to taste the best life has offered them, and even if so still complains without being thankfull for what they have. Like free education, free medical, Tropical giant waterfalls, Dolphins just five miles away, or even food people never heard of, and will never be seen again.
They grow up whining, and whining, and never attempting to actually correct the mistakes of their nation, or even attempting to create anything. It is like the people on the internet rambling about crap they would never ever have to know at all, but since the internet is their, they now need this redundent information. In fact the problem is
INTERNET ADDICTION SYNDROME ( which was even displayed in that sitcom where the aritist, had the big breasted girlfreind, in comparison with the small bodied ( oranged haired ) girlfreind. ), and now more then ever they download, and download.
QuoteApple makes a crapload of money from iTune store, Valve from their Steam game store, Microsoft from Xbox LIVE (games / videos / music / etc), etc.
That is because people are too damn lazy to go outside and get the actually product. They think their product is forever. Eventually like all products they are forget they even made a purchase and the proccess continues again and again.
Imagine if you died tommorow.
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Denying that digital won't take over is just silly.
If anybody support this, they are crazy, and beyond. It is good for getting products to the middle of nowhere ( like a deserted island with only sattelite internet, as their only source for communications, or a deeep deep jungle ),
and in present day ( 1980's ) modern society. Their are still only three places on the planet that this works for. East Asia, Americas, and Europe.
No other place on this planet, has a safe haven, for any real world items. It is like finding a human skull in a nursery and a small child in a Amazon village. Can you understand that.
If you really want to promote this, then slap an actor in the back of their head.
These people are the only ones making a living off this nonsense.Again, boomers ( like most of our parents ) who aimlessly buy things due to their portability, and could really give a damn about the product being tangible or not. It is for those people. The old dumb people
Again young adults ( like a 12-15 year old ) who has no concept of employement, or real work values, or has even seen the worst things on the planet up close and person. And thinks they are going to be like Dragon Ball
when they grow up, Who goes around saying ( I hate everything, I hate my life, I hate myself, I wish I was dead ), and so forth. These people will most likely want this but could never afford it, but they can beg their parents for a paid subscription to X-box live
The boomer ( and now Mid-generation Xers ) will give into the begging, and thus the media crap will continue to be dispense at the expense of mindless idiots slaving away for rotten, scum riddiance, things they call their children. Just to pay for cheap below the feet downloads.
The proccess continues. That is why the humans can never live forever, unlike Conan. They can't say hey, why are we paying for something that should be free.
Quoteit's DRM. To play UV Blu-ray and DVD discs, you need to access your digital library to download your license key -- and if you're not connected to the internet, the TV show or movie simply won't start.
Please tell me this only affects people who have already connected to UltraViolet once, and not for every single piece of media that uses UltraViolet technology.
i personally like to have something tangable, unless its given to me for free in the digital format (i.e. the 30 free 3DS games i will get in sept.) i wont by digital
Quote from: nintendodork on August 07, 2011, 12:46:41 pm
Quoteit's DRM. To play UV Blu-ray and DVD discs, you need to access your digital library to download your license key -- and if you're not connected to the internet, the TV show or movie simply won't start.
Please tell me this only affects people who have already connected to UltraViolet once, and not for every single piece of media that uses UltraViolet technology.
Seconded, but only because I don't see this point mentioned in any legitimate article. Obviously the official UV website is going to gloss over or omit the DRM part of it, but I can't seem to find any critical information about the technology that isn't written by some alarmist.
Quote from: RegalSin on August 07, 2011, 12:05:50 pm
QuoteApple makes a crapload of money from iTune store, Valve from their Steam game store, Microsoft from Xbox LIVE (games / videos / music / etc), etc.
That is because people are too damn lazy to go outside and get the actually product.
No, it's not. Digital distribution is nice because it's convenient. If I have a phone that has 4G connectivity, and I'm walking around in a city, and I hear a song that I like, and I want to listen to it or put it on my phone so I won't forget it, I can type it in on my phone's store, download it, and listen to it digitally, all in a matter of seconds.
Same situation at home; if I hear a song that I like, I don't want to stop whatever I'm doing, get up, get in my car, waste gas to go to the store, waste more money on the physical CD, even if I only liked one song, waste more gas to go home, put it in, rip it to my computer, and delete all of the other songs I don't like.
Or, I can go on iTunes, buy the one song I liked, download it, and listen to it. Am I really lazy for not doing the first option? If I like an artist or an album enough, then I usually support that by buying that album on vinyl. I'm not saying it's a bad thing to still buy physical CDs, I'm just saying you shouldn't call everyone lazy just because they liked a song and bought it digitally instead of on a CD.
Quote from: linkzpikachu on August 07, 2011, 01:13:04 pm
i personally like to have something tangable, unless its given to me for free in the digital format (i.e. the 30 free 3DS games i will get in sept.) i wont by digital
Same. I don't like cloud gaming as a forced idea. Let there be options! I will leave modern gaming entirely if digital distribution, cloud gaming or whatever you want to call it becomes a standard.
Oh, and I *do* agree with Regal Sin on his opinions... loosely though.
Me too.
I'm basically not opposed to downloading stuff. I like the idea of small games that I can download to my 3DS and other machines for cheap.
But I'm also a person who likes to have physical copies.
So if one day games were distributed only digitally, I think I'll stop modern gaming and work through older games. There are so many available they should last me as long as I live. :D
Madden needs to go digital.
True that. That's one thing I won't miss is the yearly sports game. They could literally release one or two per console and just keep releasing DLC and they'd be fine, but nope. Gotta make stupid amounts of money somehow.
What is when a product becomes commercial
Quote from: linkzpikachu on August 07, 2011, 01:13:04 pm
i personally like to have something tangable, unless its given to me for free in the digital format (i.e. the 30 free 3DS games i will get in sept.)
Nobody should not get thirty free anything at all.
Quote from: nintendodork on August 07, 2011, 02:33:32 pm
No, it's not. Digital distribution is nice because it's convenient.
Yes, for when somebody is stuck on a porta-potty seat, with built in leather cusions and is in dying need of a pizza-hut pizza, or emergency at home
cleaning of blood.
QuoteIf I have a phone that has 4G connectivity, and I'm walking around in a city, and I hear a song that I like, and I want to listen to it or put it on my phone so I won't forget it, I can type it in on my phone's store, download it, and listen to it digitally, all in a matter of seconds.
Or, you can write the name of the song down, or the lyrics ( Even hum the tune for as long as you can ) . Find a music store where where they sell a real media product like a cassette, record, or compact disc. So that if you fall into a manhole by accident, somebody can claim the actually piece of media and sell it, at a garage sale and make some money back, or proceed to listen to that media on their music player.
We should not live in the fear ( idea), that all things will get destroyed, and everything is basically made out of sand, and our bodies is just a figment of somebodies imagination. We are real so the products we purchase must be real as us.QuoteSame situation at home; if I hear a song that I like, I don't want to stop whatever I'm doing,
Well that is another reason why people go outside, and interact with other people. It should not be considered work at all, it should be a normal action.
Like going to the movies. In my area, an enitre row of VHS, DVD, and other stores has turned it into a nightmarish crime scene.
Yes we all live on islands in the middle of nowhere with only coconuts and we are too poor to buy the actually product. So we just brought an all-paid subscription to some celluar phone company.
Quoteget up, get in my car, waste gas to go to the store, waste more money
That is why the economy is screwed up, in the world. People think that they are wasting money. When in truth, they have commited themsleves to holding that value true. Like if you own a yacht. You will need people to take care of the boat. That is the real world. You can't complain and cry about not taking care of the boat. Using the excuse that a person is unable to afford the mobility to walk or drive a couple of distance is no excuse not to buy the actually product.
Quoteon the physical CD, even if I only liked one song, waste more gas to go home, put it in, rip it to my computer, and delete all of the other songs I don't like.
That is called making a
MIX TAPE, and option that people with programming knowledge, or some computer knowledge is able to do. You have no right to take advantage of that ability.
You can't delete or modify a product, by doing so, your only damaging the product.
QuoteOr, I can go on iTunes, buy the one song I liked, download it, and listen to it.
That is why most CD's have the ability to switch tracks, and play on specific tracks. My PC engine, system card has built in menu to select tracks and play CD-G. My Sega Saturn via Video adapter has built in ability to play specific VCD parts. Even some tape cassette has the ability to play specific minutes ( this is why the minutes are displayed on some players ) areas. Even some record players, has the ability to skip over various songs, aside the ability to replay itself, or play at differnt speeds.
QuoteAm I really lazy for not doing the first option? If I like an artist or an album enough, then I usually support that by buying that album on vinyl. I'm not saying it's a bad thing to still buy physical CDs, I'm just saying you shouldn't call everyone lazy just because they liked a song and bought it digitally instead of on a CD.
Lazy is lazy
poor is poor
Imagine if you wanted to be with a lover. What do you do? Call the person up and hope they answer? No they might not answer the phone, they might even hate you. If you really love that person you would go half way around the world to find them. That is how a consumer should feel about products.
I understand that people would put religion before products, and say. That is some item that will rust, and mold. Even say, they have to get rid of all their worldy possesions. Even be like Hugo Chavez and call the demon card.
A product, is a product no matter if it is a fruit on a tree, to a movie in a teather.
Even paying to get into a club is a real world product. Even paying for sex is real world product. In light of that, you have to understand that when people make something. That something should exsist without them
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I don't think any of our games have this crazy DRM or nonsense systems.
DRM incyption in terms of a virtual product is needed to prevent people from abusing the product. Like internet porn uses DRM incryption, to prevent people from using other players, and collect user informations.
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The latest and greatest mindset is a homer simpson mindset, that we have all been lead to beleive. Sometimes it is good while other times it is bad. Like this commercial.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRwTH0jKiug
Not the commercial I was thinking of, but it comes close. You see, when you sell products, no matter what, It must have a container.
For programmers, Mircrosoft has a partnership program, to get free software. There are two options. One is to send it as a download to save a few bucks. Another is to ship it to you. Think about that, not only, just getting download data, that will eventually be shared on the net, it is also Canadaians to go on postal services strikes. While causing the price of CD parts to rise due to lack of usage and rise in shipping prices.
Rubbish... DRM is a method for profit-mongering; a poorly considered way to both piracy, and hang user rights. It takes one tiny scuff to make optical media unplayable, or one power spike or a slight bend to damage memory media, which means that with the DRM encryption, you will inevitable need to re-buy the same 'insert media' at some point, versus having the ability to encode it yourself and use it from any device in perpetuity.
It also prevents the user from selecting a desired OS, and in many cases, a desired media player; YOu will never see support for most of the big mainstream DRM protections available in an open-source OS or application; and is a very openly deplorable attempt to force everyone to use a Microsoft product, or int he case of some companies, their own, often 'inferior to everything else', product. Compare the interface of Hulu to using VLC and you tell me which is more flexible, user-friendly and had the best options. (Note: This shouldn't take quite that long to consider...)
At one time, I spent quite a bundle buying tapes, and later LaserDiscs and DVDs; now I won't buy any of the muck being relased, as a general boycott to what's happening in the industry.
I won't buy any media with DRM protection; or any media that requires cloud-sharing to function. This further option gives them the ability to turn off your 'viewing rights' for any product at any time.
It's completely unacceptable, and in the favour of the MPAA & RIAA's absurd philosophy that 'the user own nothing'. Sorry mates, but if I buy anything, I have the perpetual right to use it any way I deem fit. No-one may dictate how the money I spend is used (or how I use any product that costs me money). Once something is in my possession, whomever had ownership last no longer has any control over it;. It is this that makes companies want to switch from the physical tot he virtual: The overall desire is a leased content system, where you own nothing, ever and thus have nothing physical to show for your money.
That's all this is about in the end: Control. They want to control how you are able to use anything you buy, and if you thin this will stop at having to authenticate a film that you buy on CloudWare (UltraViolet) dics; UltraViolation is, quite frankly, more honest and appropriate, and appropriation of your rights is what's happening here. :bomb:
How about the possibility of censorship?
I second what Xious said 100%.
It's exactly how it is.