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Family Computer => Technical & Repair Assistance => Topic started by: chazbc24 on September 27, 2011, 07:23:29 pm

Title: Need help playing FDS on powerpak
Post by: chazbc24 on September 27, 2011, 07:23:29 pm
I have no idea how to get my fds files to work on my powerpak. It appears to already have the fds bios loaded in to the directory, but whenever i select a fds game it says bad header

help!

thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Need help playing FDS on powerpak
Post by: ericj on September 27, 2011, 07:37:23 pm
Fix the image header or download a different rom.
Title: Re: Need help playing FDS on powerpak
Post by: chazbc24 on September 27, 2011, 09:20:19 pm
wtf is a header? ha
Title: Re: Need help playing FDS on powerpak
Post by: jpx72 on September 27, 2011, 10:55:52 pm
Quote from: chazbc24 on September 27, 2011, 09:20:19 pm
wtf is a header? ha


First 16 bytes of the rom file :)
http://wiki.nesdev.com/w/index.php/INES
Title: Re: Need help playing FDS on powerpak
Post by: chazbc24 on September 28, 2011, 11:43:57 am
how do i go about doing that?

sorry i've seriously looked everywhere for this info.

im obviously desperate.
Title: Re: Need help playing FDS on powerpak
Post by: 133MHz on September 28, 2011, 12:16:13 pm
There are programs which try to fix the headers on your ROM files automatically, here are some of them: NES Utilities - Zophar's Domain (http://www.zophar.net/utilities/nesaud.html)
Those might be outdated though.
Title: Re: Need help playing FDS on powerpak
Post by: chazbc24 on September 28, 2011, 12:30:43 pm
yeah im running a mac...

can anyone who has a folder of fixed fds files for their powerpak do me a HUGE favor and send them to me? pm me or email me at chazbc24@gmail.
Title: Re: Need help playing FDS on powerpak
Post by: ericj on September 28, 2011, 03:01:43 pm
Most files shouldn't need fixed. I think the few I ran across that did were in the Mario Bros. series.
Title: Re: Need help playing FDS on powerpak
Post by: chazbc24 on September 28, 2011, 05:35:10 pm
all of mine say bad header
Title: Re: Need help playing FDS on powerpak
Post by: ericj on September 28, 2011, 06:13:56 pm
Download them from a different rom site, then. Or use a torrent.
Title: Re: Need help playing FDS on powerpak
Post by: jpx72 on September 28, 2011, 09:56:05 pm
Try tools like ucon64 http://ucon64.sourceforge.net/ or GoodNES (allegedly it can fix roms automatically, sorry I just googled that)
Title: Re: Need help playing FDS on powerpak
Post by: Drakon on October 02, 2011, 08:18:27 am
Install the fds mapper from loopy

http://home.comcast.net/~olimar/NES/ (http://home.comcast.net/~olimar/NES/)

Make sure that you only copy "f.map" and the fdsbios file from this zip onto your powerpak since the other loopy mappers don't work so great
Title: Re: Need help playing FDS on powerpak
Post by: chazbc24 on October 04, 2011, 03:04:47 pm
got a fdsprayed pack from snesorama. thanks for the help guys.

ONE MORE QUESTION

how can i play my beloved 4 and 3 player famicom games on the powerpak. are there hacked versions of these roms that allow the 4 score to be utilized?
Title: Re: Need help playing FDS on powerpak
Post by: P on October 05, 2011, 12:55:56 am
You can build an adapter from extension cables to use the 4 Score on a Famicom. Player 3 and Player 4 sockets won't work for Famicom games though, only Nes games.

Or are you talking about 3-4 player Famicom games? You must use the extension port for that.

Information about all this in this thread: http://www.famicomworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=5912.0
Title: Re: Need help playing FDS on powerpak
Post by: jpx72 on October 05, 2011, 01:00:30 am
What's a FDSpray set? Is that a normal compilation of FDS roms?
Title: Re: Need help playing FDS on powerpak
Post by: NintendoKing on October 06, 2011, 01:29:33 pm
I didn't know PowerPak ran FDS, that opens my eyes on PowerPak as I could use it's FDS capabilities because I do not intend on owning a real FDS.

I am also still waiting on the Munchausen Flash Cartridge to be for sale. I want one so badly...
Title: Re: Need help playing FDS on powerpak
Post by: ericj on October 06, 2011, 02:03:31 pm
No offense, but how did you miss that the PowerPak runs FDS? It's been mentioned numerous times on this forum as well as on the site that sells them.
Title: Re: Need help playing FDS on powerpak
Post by: chazbc24 on October 06, 2011, 11:32:29 pm
when i found out it had a built in nsf player is when i jumped on one
Title: Re: Need help playing FDS on powerpak
Post by: NintendoKing on October 07, 2011, 07:25:09 pm
ericj, honestly unless I am very interested in the topic; I usually just skim... Personally I am not a big fan of PowerPak as it sounds like a pointless device. IE: It removes collecting out of the equation and allows people to play every single game. I figure if you are gonna buy a device for such a reason, why not just use a pc emulator and a USB NES controller. (much cheaper) If I bought a PowerPak it would only be for prototype games and FDS games.
The Munchausen Flash Cart interests me more as it's made specifically for developing games, so I can test out new rom hacks that I may decide to do on NROM or MMC-1 based games on real hardware.
Title: Re: Need help playing FDS on powerpak
Post by: 133MHz on October 07, 2011, 07:43:21 pm
Quote from: The Uninvited Gremlin on October 07, 2011, 07:25:09 pmI figure if you are gonna buy a device for such a reason, why not just use a pc emulator and a USB NES controller. (much cheaper)


Some of us play competitively and thus become sensitive to USB/LCD/emulation lag. Can't beat real hardware. :bub:
Title: Re: Need help playing FDS on powerpak
Post by: 2A03 on October 27, 2011, 12:45:21 am
Quote from: The Uninvited Gremlin on October 07, 2011, 07:25:09 pm
ericj, honestly unless I am very interested in the topic; I usually just skim... Personally I am not a big fan of PowerPak as it sounds like a pointless device. IE: It removes collecting out of the equation and allows people to play every single game. I figure if you are gonna buy a device for such a reason, why not just use a pc emulator and a USB NES controller. (much cheaper) If I bought a PowerPak it would only be for prototype games and FDS games.

Who said the PowerPak had to substitute collecting? I've had a PowerPak for over a year and it hasn't changed my collecting habits one bit. If anything, it's been a life saver at friends' houses since I don't have to lug around a bunch of carts. Plus it's excellent for trying out games on real hardware that I may want to pick up in the future.
Title: Re: Need help playing FDS on powerpak
Post by: Xious on October 27, 2011, 06:37:52 pm
Precisely.I've had the PowerPak (PP) now for a few years, and my personal collecting habits have not changed. I use it for a combination of ease of portability, laziness, and of course to play custom game titles, including homebrew titles and hacks.

I do tend to use the real FDS over the PowerPak simulation, as the PP audio is far off from the real system's FM sound, however the ability to run FDS titles elsewhere without bringing more than a base FC console is a bonus. I also like that I can make homebrew or hacked FDS titles and test them using the PP.

Most of the titles I play on it are games that I own in multiple forms, and the PP makes it far easier to keep them on hand, in one place. It doesn't stop me from using standard game cassettes or disks, and in the case of games with FM sound or advanced mappers, I generally use the real game to avoid glitches or sound defects.

I only use real hardware myself, never emulators or clones, so to me the PP is a godsend when it comes to demonstrating games, having competitions, or simply visiting some mates for a game night. I do use a Famicom controller via USB for ZC, but I don't honestly get the same satisfaction out of using an emulator that I do sitting down with the actual console and the glow of a 1702 monitor.

It's also very handy for RPGs, as it makes it simple to use those translation IPS patches, thus allowing me to expand to RPGs that, while I may own, I can't actually play properly or fully understand.

Additionally, it makes it easy to keep backups of battery saves from games, and even to share those save files with others. This applies not only to RPGs, but also to games that keep player files, with high score values, etc.that you may want to share for non-local competitions.

For people that aren't actually collectors, but are merely interested in playing games, the PP may be the end answer, but for anyone that actually collects the real games for the sake of owning them, displaying them, or whatever motivation you might have, the PP is merely a tool that permits you additional flexibility and may protect the value of your collection. Honestly, it's been a lifesaver at conventions, as I need only track one single device, not a case of games and I can leave a cheap multicart in the console while unattended, shoving the PP into my pocket.

On a side note, you will need to modify whatever adapter you use on your FC if you want any of the additional sound effects generated by the PP:This modification differs from the one for the FDS. :bomb: