Are there any online stores that might still carry a new AV Famicom? And since the system doesn't come with accessories beyond the two controllers, where can I get a new AC Adapter and AV cable? Does Nintendo Co., Ltd. have an online store for these things?
the AV cable is the standard snes/n64/gamecube one. That's easily attainable. The ac adaptor can be purchased on Yahoo Auctions Japan or you could ask one of our resident ebay sellers to track one down for you. As for the unit, Japan Game Stock is the only non-auction source, and they may have one. Or you could try your luck at ebay, or Yahoo Auctions Japan through an intermediary service (Since japanese will not, for any reason, deal with american buyers)
Okay, I was going to ask how I could buy something on Yahoo! Auctions Japan, but then you told me that I'd have to get the help of someone living in Japan...
Why is Japan Game Stock the only other source? Aren't there any other online sites that might service North America? Seems a bit strange to me... ???
Okay, so this is all I found on eBay, but I think the seller is a bit crazy:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=011&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=320034940439&rd=1&rd=1
These things retailed for, like, $60...
Maybe I can get him to go lower...Wouldn't hurt to try, I guess. ~_~
It seems he's declined alot of offers. No, you dont need the help of someone living in Japan, you need an intermediary service such as www.rinkya.com or any of the other proxy bidding services. Problem is you pay a commision. I reccommend using ebay, they pop up once and awhile (like every other week)
THAT'S AWESOME!! And it's funny that on the home page of Rinkya, I'm able to read that little bit of Japanese. :P
Hey, so what other proxy bidding sites are there? This is so cool!
EDIT: I can't get over how cool this is!
theres japan shopping mall
Yeah, I found a list over here:
http://blog.vertebratesilence.com/2006/10/05/bidding-in-yahoo-auctions-from-outside-of-japan/
I also found some more smaller ones using Google. These things are really cool. I never knew they existed. This really opens up a lot of possibilities!
Yeah, just remember they rape you in terms fee's. Not only do they charge commision, they charge handling fee's!!!!
SMJ doesn't charge any handling fees, just the commission (which is very competitive) and shipping.
As mentioned before, you don't need to get a Famicom AC adapter, I use a regular old 9v center negative. A Genesis power supply will work fine, or a universal supply from an electronics store.
yeah but a regular one isnt 100v which is what the famicom takes, although its irrelevant if you arent using a power converter. if you are using a power converter you cant just use any power adaptor can you?
The Famicom doesn't take in 100v. That's the input voltage of the original adapter, not the output voltage. All that matters is the output voltage.
So, you're saying that if you juice 120v into a 100v adaptor, the only thing that's affected is the adaptor, since it's output would be the same? Or would that screw with the output, hence the need for a voltage converter.
yes but if you are using a 120v adaptor on a product intended for 100v, i dont think thats a good idea at all
Quote from: JC on February 17, 2007, 11:17:01 pm
So, you're saying that if you juice 120v into a 100v adaptor, the only thing that's affected is the adaptor, since it's output would be the same? Or would that screw with the output, hence the need for a voltage converter.
No, I'm saying the input of the adapter doesn't matter as long as you are feeding in the correct input. If i had a 10,000 volt line and had a power adapter that could take that and convert it to 9v, it'd work on the famicom. As for using 100v Japanese adapters, they generally will work within a +/- 10v variance. I've got a Japanese minidisc AC adapter that won't work properly here, however I do have a Japanese power supply for a CD player that charges it just fine.
The point is, if you go to a store and buy an adapter from Target or somewhere that outputs 9v center negative, you are fine. You can use a Genesis power supply, as mentioned, you can use a universal supply from radio shack, you can use anything made for the US that outputs 9v. Or you can buy a 120v->100v stepdown converter and use the original Famicom adapter. There's nothing magical about the original adapter, it's just converting voltage like any other adapter will.
If you are seeking a Japanese AV Famicom a good source for these would be auctions.yahoo.co.jp, they tend to go for about 5000 yen on the site. Much better then some of the American eBay prices of near $200. But most of us do not have Japanese addresses so we cannot register for Yahoo.co.jp, so what do we do to resolve this situation. Luckily where there is a demand there is business, so someone provides a service for those of us really wanting stuff from Japan. Rinkya.com will allow those of us state side to find auctions and bid on them, their service fees will be about $20 dollars for an AV Famicom. If you are really lucky you might even get some games with your purchase.
And on a side note, I would highly recommend getting a power converter or using a standard American AC adapter for the system, either from someplace like radio shack or your old NES system, I will be getting an Famicom AV within a few weeks and I will post when I have a better means to play with the power supply. Of course you can always just get a step down transformer, which will probably cost close to $20 plus shipping. Now if you are getting a Japanese gaming system that has no external power conversion like say a sega saturn, dreamcast, ps1, or ps2 it is imperative for the life of your system to get a step down power converter, 120V AC will cook your system overtime and repairs are very hard to get. Anything with a standard DC in if you can buy something from Radio shack or someplace else that uses the proper connection and voltage level with a current rating the system needs. If you have any questions or need help please feel free and conact me.
I think there's a guy on digitpress selling one boxed for $150... It was in the for sale section. Sorry, I'm at work so I don't have time to go find the topic.
Actually for a boxed one in good condition, it seems to me that it will take some looking to get one for less than $150.
Just keep an eye on EBay. I got a like-new, boxed w/manuals AV Famicom along with a handful of carts for under $100.
I'm trying to get a hold of a AV Famicom loose, Just the Unit..How much does just the Unit going for..What AC can I use with it, Can I use the Genesis AC with it..or will I fry it
I though I hear you could at lease use your SNES or the NES one on it
What's the Power Supply Specs for the AV Famicom..Can I get one at Radio Shack or Someone that know Power Supplys
Quote from: kite200 on March 14, 2007, 05:36:53 pm
Dont use the genesis AC with it. Famicoms and other Japanese appliances are 100v. Your outlet is higher than that. Get a stepdown converter and always use the original power supply to ensure the safety of your treasured collectables. You can get a stepdown converter for less than 30 dollars, sometimes less then 20. Google Japan voltage converters or something, and things will come up.
Don't believe this, it's total bullshit. I'm tired of saying this over and over again. A Genesis power supply is made for 110-120v input, with 9vdc output. This is what the Famicom takes in. The original Famicom AC adapter takes in 100v, but that doesn't mean any adapter you use needs 100v. YOU ONLY NEED A STEPDOWN CONVERTER IF YOU ARE USING A JAPANESE AC ADAPTER. Learn the difference between an adapter's input voltage and the console voltage regulator's input voltage.
The Genesis adapter works fine. Any US made adapter that outputs 9vdc center negative works fine. I've been using Genesis adapters on Famicoms and FDS for years.
Quote from: kite200 on March 14, 2007, 05:51:21 pm
the specs for the original famicom adaptor are as follows:
AC-Adaptor
MODEL HVC-002
AC100V 50/60Hz 18VA
DC10V 850mA
now, you wont be able to find AC100v input in the US but you could try AC110v, that should work but everything else needs to be the same or else its bad
Please quit posting about something you clearly know nothing about, it only spreads the BS. Here's what matters: the output voltage of your AC adapter is at least 9vdc, to keep a cooler voltage regulator I'd max it out at 16v. It needs to be center negative. It needs to output at least 850mA. If it outputs 10,000A, that's fine, a circuit will only use as much current as it needs. You could hook a Famicom up to a 220VAC line as long as you had the proper adatper, THE INPUT VOLTAGE TO THE ADAPTER DOES NOT MATTER AS LONG AS THE OUTPUT VOLTAGE AND POLARITY ARE CORRECT.
Quote from: kite200 on March 14, 2007, 09:57:24 pm
Ok, here's a question for you. Why are you flaming the post with the specs for the original AC. It says these are the specs for the original adaptor, then at the end just says the specs aside from the input should be the same. What's wrong with that? Also, you can quit being a fucking troll. You sound like a 2 year old on a rampage, calm the fuck down. In my personal experience I dont like using non original AC adaptors, they were not meant for the famicom and never will be. You can use whatever you want, but it's probably best to use the original adaptor. Also, the information I gave concering never using a nes adaptor is correct. At least you didnt try to argue that. Just because people dont agree with you using non original power supplies doesnt mean you should flame them.
You are right, a circuit only uses as much as it needs, but the rest dissapates via heat. Why the fuck would you plug a 10,000mA into a famicom? are you really a madman?
And plugging a famicom into a 220v outlet will instantly fry it, I dont know if you really know what you are talking about. Why dont you go take a plane trip to europe and try, you will find the results I just mentioned. You would need a stepdown converter to do that safely
Obviously you still don't understand electronics. If you plug in an adapter that takes in 220VAC input and outputs 9VDC there will be no problem at all. The only thing that matters is the voltage you send into the Famicom. I'm not flaming anyone, I'm just sick of nonsense being spread around. A stepdown converter is only needed if the adapter expects a different input voltage than what you are feeding it, though most today are switching. If anyone here owns a laptop the power supply most likely says input voltage 100v-240v, 50-60hz. When I was in Europe and Asia with 220v, my AC adapters worked fine because they were switching and not linear and could handle a variety of input voltages. The only time it'd be bad to feed in 220VAC would be in the case of a linear power supply that expects 100-120VAC.
I didn't flame the original specs, I flamed the fact that you said "but everything else needs to be the same or else its bad." Your post would lead someone to believe that a 1A supply would "be bad." Or that a 9v output "would be bad."
You say "dont use the Genesis AC with it" but you give absolutely no valid reason as to why. It outputs 9vdc at 1.2A with center negative polarity. Perfect for the Famicom. So, please inform us why it's so bad to use a Genesis power supply. I'd be interested in your answer.
The Famicom, like most electronic devices, uses an LM7805 voltage regulator than can take a variety of input voltages as I've mentioned in other threads.
The Famicom has no idea if it's getting power from an original power supply, or something else supplying the exact same voltage, current and polarity. Again, please explain why it's best to use the original power supply. If you want to believe that 10vdc from a Nintendo branded power supply is different from 10vdc from another power supply, feel free.
If you guys are going to argue like little babies, then I'm going to have to lock this. Take that crap into pm's. Warnings for both of you.