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Misc. => Other Gaming => Topic started by: Robot House on January 10, 2012, 05:00:38 am

Title: Super Famicom - Copied Games MOTHERLOAD + Advice?
Post by: Robot House on January 10, 2012, 05:00:38 am
Hello everyone. This is my first post. *waves*
I've been lurking for awhile so I finally decided to join.

A couple days ago I found this machine for $3 at the second hand market.

(http://i.imgur.com/ifAOx.jpg)

Then today I went to one of my favorite local "grey" markets and I stumbled upon a bag of super famicom pirated game floppies. Total cost: $15

(http://i.imgur.com/49wq7.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Chdp7.jpg)

Anywho besides showing them off I do have a question. I watched the guy test a few of them right in front of me on his figher pro game copier. They worked fine. I brought them home tried them on my machine and I keep getting a "read error" for every disk. So then I tried formatting one of the disks and copying one of my legit carts onto it using my machine. When I did this the game copied fine and when I ran the disk I didn't get any read errors. Worked perfectly.

So my question is this, is it possible that my machine has it's own proprietary ROM format and that's why these disks don't work on it? If so, is there anything I can do? If not, what else do you think it could be?

Any and all help would be appreciated. Thanks!
Title: Re: Super Famicom - Copied Games MOTHERLOAD + Advice?
Post by: L___E___T on January 11, 2012, 08:06:11 am
Heck knows but great find!
Title: Re: Super Famicom - Copied Games MOTHERLOAD + Advice?
Post by: petik1 on January 11, 2012, 12:15:26 pm
Not sure about the specific model you have, but the Supercom Partner supports .smc .swc .mgd .fig files, according to Ultimate Console Database.

I'd be willing to buy some if you decide to sell them  ;)
Title: Re: Super Famicom - Copied Games MOTHERLOAD + Advice?
Post by: Parodius Duh on January 11, 2012, 01:56:08 pm
wait wait wait a minute here......you can copy games to floppies and play them on your snes with this machine? SIGN ME UP if thats the case! where would one find one of these machines? probably rare and expensive normally, huh? Do games with save functions still work as well? Id rather have one of these over a power pack or super everdrive.....
Title: Re: Super Famicom - Copied Games MOTHERLOAD + Advice?
Post by: petik1 on January 11, 2012, 02:02:00 pm
Here's a write up I did on the game doctor, another back up device: http://techsquid.blogspot.com/2011/04/game-doctor-sf-iii-overview.html?

It's a very nice piece of hardware.
Title: Re: Super Famicom - Copied Games MOTHERLOAD + Advice?
Post by: stealthlurker on January 13, 2012, 10:37:01 pm
Nice pickup! That sure brings back memories....

I've got a Super UFO 32mbit SFC/SNES copier. Picked mine up back in 1994. I remember there were entire shops dedicated to copying Super Famicom games lol. They would have books with lists of games they could copy for you. I remember saving my allowance to buy packs of blank disks. I would also borrow games from friends or rent them just to copy. This was waaaay before there were working SNES emulators.

However I told myself if I ever had any money one day that I would buy the actual games. Now got all the ones I wanted CIB.... But if it weren't for that machine I wouldn't have discovered all the obscure SFC games that to this day dont have much if any info on the web.

I remember format compatibilty varied on the diff copiers. Back in the day they had PC utilities that could convert files between the diff formats.

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Post Merge: January 13, 2012, 10:47:00 pm

Quote from: Parodius Duh on January 11, 2012, 01:56:08 pm
wait wait wait a minute here......you can copy games to floppies and play them on your snes with this machine? SIGN ME UP if thats the case! where would one find one of these machines? probably rare and expensive normally, huh? Do games with save functions still work as well? Id rather have one of these over a power pack or super everdrive.....


No don't.... The powerpak is soooo much more convenient. It takes time to load each game to RAM. Some games take multiple disks. Takes a lot of space too. I still have 1000 disks with SFC games on them at my parents house. Plus disks can go bad.

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Title: Re: Super Famicom - Copied Games MOTHERLOAD + Advice?
Post by: Robot House on January 14, 2012, 06:18:41 am
Quote from: stealthlurker on January 13, 2012, 10:37:01 pm
Nice pickup! That sure brings back memories....

I've got a Super UFO 32mbit SFC/SNES copier. Picked mine up back in 1994. I remember there were entire shops dedicated to copying Super Famicom games lol. They would have books with lists of games they could copy for you. I remember saving my allowance to buy packs of blank disks. I would also borrow games from friends or rent them just to copy. This was waaaay before there were working SNES emulators.

However I told myself if I ever had any money one day that I would buy the actual games. Now got all the ones I wanted CIB.... But if it weren't for that machine I wouldn't have discovered all the obscure SFC games that to this day dont have much if any info on the web.

I remember format compatibilty varied on the diff copiers. Back in the day they had PC utilities that could convert files between the diff formats.

.

Post Merge: January 13, 2012, 10:47:00 pm

Quote from: Parodius Duh on January 11, 2012, 01:56:08 pm
wait wait wait a minute here......you can copy games to floppies and play them on your snes with this machine? SIGN ME UP if thats the case! where would one find one of these machines? probably rare and expensive normally, huh? Do games with save functions still work as well? Id rather have one of these over a power pack or super everdrive.....


No don't.... The powerpak is soooo much more convenient. It takes time to load each game to RAM. Some games take multiple disks. Takes a lot of space too. I still have 1000 disks with SFC games on them at my parents house. Plus disks can go bad.

.


Do you happen to remember the name of any of those programs that could convert the files? It would definitely be handy right now. ;P
Title: Re: Super Famicom - Copied Games MOTHERLOAD + Advice?
Post by: stealthlurker on January 14, 2012, 08:15:53 am
Quote from: Robot House on January 14, 2012, 06:18:41 am
Quote from: stealthlurker on January 13, 2012, 10:37:01 pm
Nice pickup! That sure brings back memories....

I've got a Super UFO 32mbit SFC/SNES copier. Picked mine up back in 1994. I remember there were entire shops dedicated to copying Super Famicom games lol. They would have books with lists of games they could copy for you. I remember saving my allowance to buy packs of blank disks. I would also borrow games from friends or rent them just to copy. This was waaaay before there were working SNES emulators.

However I told myself if I ever had any money one day that I would buy the actual games. Now got all the ones I wanted CIB.... But if it weren't for that machine I wouldn't have discovered all the obscure SFC games that to this day dont have much if any info on the web.

I remember format compatibilty varied on the diff copiers. Back in the day they had PC utilities that could convert files between the diff formats.

.

Post Merge: January 13, 2012, 10:47:00 pm

Quote from: Parodius Duh on January 11, 2012, 01:56:08 pm
wait wait wait a minute here......you can copy games to floppies and play them on your snes with this machine? SIGN ME UP if thats the case! where would one find one of these machines? probably rare and expensive normally, huh? Do games with save functions still work as well? Id rather have one of these over a power pack or super everdrive.....


No don't.... The powerpak is soooo much more convenient. It takes time to load each game to RAM. Some games take multiple disks. Takes a lot of space too. I still have 1000 disks with SFC games on them at my parents house. Plus disks can go bad.

.


Do you happen to remember the name of any of those programs that could convert the files? It would definitely be handy right now. ;P



I believe it was uCon. If I recall, it supported the major copiers such as the Super Wild Card, Super Magic Card, Game Doctor, Super Pro Figther, UFO, etc. However I haven't heard of the type you have.


http://www.zophar.net/utilities/multisysaud/ucon64.html

http://home.inreach.com/xmikex/console/tools.html


Some other miscellaneous tools that might be helpful. I also remember doing some header modification from time to time:

http://www.completeroms.com/Tools/snestools.html

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Title: Re: Super Famicom - Copied Games MOTHERLOAD + Advice?
Post by: Yukima on January 15, 2012, 03:05:37 pm
Wow, cool find!  The writing on the unit makes it look like a legit product, sorta (the same font used for the "Super Famicom" logos!)
Title: Re: Super Famicom - Copied Games MOTHERLOAD + Advice?
Post by: Robot House on January 16, 2012, 08:01:48 am
So I've pretty much figured out that my unit has it's own proprietary format. If I copy one of my original carts onto a floppy using the unit it works perfectly. However I can't even read the floppies on my PC or Mac (via USB floppy drive) once I've made the disk. That means this awesome pile of disks can't be read by my system and would be better in the hands of someone else with a super wild card or super pro fighter.

So I'll probably sell these floppies to someone who has a more compatible system.  :'(
Title: Re: Super Famicom - Copied Games MOTHERLOAD + Advice?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on April 06, 2012, 02:35:46 pm
Robot House,

please check your inbox/email

I have been trying to reach you for a while
Title: Re: Super Famicom - Copied Games MOTHERLOAD + Advice?
Post by: MarioMania on April 06, 2012, 11:23:31 pm
Nice Find man
Title: Re: Super Famicom - Copied Games MOTHERLOAD + Advice?
Post by: Yelir on April 08, 2012, 05:55:48 pm
What a great find. Some of those labels look pretty legit, it almost seems like a failed idea to replicate the FDS games and how they were a bit cheaper than buying carts. ;D
Title: Re: Re: Super Famicom - Copied Games MOTHERLOAD + Advice?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on August 15, 2012, 10:10:21 am
Robot house,

please check your PM