i just received a copy of super mario world vol. 1 for the famicom i've tested it on 2 different famiclones and my av famicom won't work at all game won't load and just a frozen screen with black and purple blocks does anyone know if this game requires a certain clone or something like that.
black cart, yellow label?
it only works on specific clones that version.
Quote from: Parodius Duh on March 08, 2012, 08:24:34 am
black cart, yellow label?
it only works on specific clones that version.
heres a pic of the cart i'm pretty sure I need a specific clone
If you haven't already, try cleaning the pins on the cart. Also try hitting reset after inserting the cart and powering it on. Some pirate carts won't work until you hit reset. If that doesn't work, try taking the pcb out of the shell and give it a try again.
Still nothing? Adjust the way/angle the cart is sitting in the connector and test & re-test until it works. I have a couple games that take forever to get to work. Consequently, they hardly ever get played.
All my Super Mario World copies work flawlessy on original hardware (AV FC).
But I remembered some people who couldn't get to work certain pirates while some could on original hardware.
If you can find a good famiclone, then it could work.
Also to correct Parodius Duh:
No it doesn't change anything. Both version has the exact same board ;)
EDIT: Also the cart case doesn't matter at all. It's the importer who were putting cases to the games, not the publisher.
Also if you really can't get it to work on anything, don't put it in the trash !
Quote from: MasterDisk on March 08, 2012, 08:59:34 am
All my Super Mario World copies work flawlessy on original hardware (AV FC)
this is not good news
Was it exposed for a long time near an electrical source, x rays or something like that?
Globs hate static electricity.
Quote from: MasterDisk on March 08, 2012, 09:10:19 am
Was it exposed for a long time near an electrical source, x rays or something like that?
Globs hate static electricity.
not that I know of. It's having diffrent reactions on all my famicoms my av famicom it just starts up with a frozen black and purple blocks. on my yobo clone it just starts up with a frozen black screen with 2 white strips on the side. Now on my game joy pokefami portable clone i've got the music to play twice but the screen is just a glitchy mess of blocks and as soon as I press start it freezes up but most of the time it just loads on my pokefami with a frozen black or green screen.
Do not touch the pins, but are they dirty ? Is there something moving in the cartridge when you move it?
pins a clean as a whistle and theres nothing loose in it
I'd say let's see what's going on inside.
Just make sure to never touch any component and only the side of the board (not even pins or something). Just in case of.
How to open easily this kind of case.
Tabes are located on top and sides (2 top, 1 each side, they are attached to the front of the cart).
Take the cart and hold it as you see one side (not top). now press a bit on the backlabel part of the cart in about the middle (press only this side).
You should feel once you have unattached the tab. Do this on the other side and just pull the plastic up.
If you are unable to unattach the plastic, I can make a quick tuto with photos.
I think i'll need the photos to try this
Ok, in 10min I'll put them here.
Thank you so much
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xpbk5h_famicom-cartridge-open_videogames
Post Merge: March 08, 2012, 10:45:02 am
Wait I'll post another one with a screw driver
Post Merge: March 08, 2012, 10:48:20 am
This one is a lot easier: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xpbkpd_famicom-cart-open-2_videogames
Thanks for the video got the cart open safely no damage to the cart here's a pics of the board
I don't see any serious damage on it. Either one of the chip is damaged. Or this cart is less well manufactured and work only on some clones.
But the picture aren't very good quality so maybe i'm missing something.
Check that there's no damage on the trace that goes to the pins.
Check the overall board and see if any trace has some oddity/cut trace.
Copy the code (YYXXXXXXC) and any other informations here please so I can compare with mine if it's the same board.
Code yy840742c
Yya 062
It is the same as mine, and I don't see any difference or serious damage on yours. It's either a trace, or your post company put the parcel in the xrays and it damaged one of the chips.
Sorry, I can't help you much more.
I doubt its xray damage as its usually only large packages of certain weight or suspicion that get x-rays. I doubt they did it to a single lightweight envelope or small box (assuming thats how the cart was sent). Im telling you these black cart with yellow label are the most common mass-produced version and only work on specific Chinese clone systems. I have had 2 copies of the same cart and sold them both cause its overall just an expensive pile of shit for a game that does not work on official hardware (dont even press your luck with an AV famicom, its definitely not going to boot up) and is practically unplayable unless you use that game genie code to correct marios f'd up run....
Quote from: Parodius Duh on March 10, 2012, 09:01:41 am
...and is practically unplayable unless you use that game genie code to correct marios f'd up run....
What's the GG code for this? I have a copy of it but never really played it much for this reason.
Quote from: Parodius Duh on March 10, 2012, 09:01:41 am
I doubt its xray damage as its usually only large packages of certain weight or suspicion that get x-rays. I doubt they did it to a single lightweight envelope or small box (assuming thats how the cart was sent). Im telling you these black cart with yellow label are the most common mass-produced version and only work on specific Chinese clone systems. I have had 2 copies of the same cart and sold them both cause its overall just an expensive pile of shit for a game that does not work on official hardware (dont even press your luck with an AV famicom, its definitely not going to boot up) and is practically unplayable unless you use that game genie code to correct marios f'd up run....
Well if he can hear sometimes the music, there must be something else...
I know the yellow label is more common. But I guarantee it's the exact same main board run as the one he has, only the label was changed overtime.
And it's not a bad game ;)
The GG code caught my attention. What is it?