continued from the introductions thread:
Quote from: Nightstar699 on March 13, 2012, 03:38:19 pm
Heh, if you think SF4 has too many moves, please, never play Tekken. And maybe we should make a general fighting game discussion thread so we don't have to clog up the introduction forum...
Yes...I hate tekken. Something about pressing a button and having the move happen 3-5 seconds later drives me nuts. The only fighting game with delay that doesn't bug me so much is soul calibur
Awww, you don't think it's fun to juggle the opponent the entire round? :c
Not too big on Tekken myself, even though I've played in Tekken 5 tournaments before.
I like juggling in stuff where it's actually super difficult to juggle like third strike or mvc2.
MvC2 juggles aren't too difficult, well, some of them anyway. I've always kinda sucked at MvC2, the only infinite combo I learned and mastered was Iron Man's basic infinite, which from what I hear, is the easiest one to learn. Back in the arcades I would use Iron Man/Cable/Sentinel. (Not always in that order) Everyone would say that was a cheap team.
I never figured out mvc2 I was too busy playing mvc1 ;D
Oh yes, MvC1 is the true crossover game of champions. Still remains my favorite to this day, Venom is so sick in that.
"know my name and fortune" was heard just a few times in MVC1, but I agree it's the best crossover.
I was hoping SFxTekken would be the one to beat it.
Quote from: Nightstar699 on March 13, 2012, 03:56:18 pm
Oh yes, MvC1 is the true crossover game of champions. Still remains my favorite to this day, Venom is so sick in that.
Yeah venom indeed rules. Most characters in it are quite fun. I still think the amazing 2d artwork is what makes it stand out...it looks like a comic book come alive.
Quote from: L___E___T on March 14, 2012, 03:20:52 am
"know my name and fortune" was heard just a few times in MVC1, but I agree it's the best crossover.
I was hoping SFxTekken would be the one to beat it.
It's indeed sad that MVC1 doesn't get so much love....although I did manage to pickup a phoenixed mvc 1 cps2 b board for 110$...due to this lack of popularity 8)
one of the best purchases ever.
Quote from: L___E___T on March 14, 2012, 03:20:52 am
"know my name and fortune" was heard just a few times in MVC1, but I agree it's the best crossover.
I was hoping SFxTekken would be the one to beat it.
I believe you're thinking of, "know my name and fear it, I am Onslaught." ;D
SFxTekken disappointed me greatly... and I didn't even buy it! It just isn't fair.... all of the original World Warriors were included... except for Honda. Except for the one who happens to be my favorite character in anything. And my 2nd favorite character? T. Hawk? Obviously they wouldn't put him in, no one gives a fuck about T. Hawk. It's the sad truth.
So yeah, I skipped out on SFxT for the same reason I skipped out on UMvC3. The roster makes it clear that the game just isn't for me. Oh well.
:D
I skipped SFxT too, I didn't find it fun but I do find it interesting.
I was surprised that it doesn't have that fun factor bug that SF4 did/does that kept me up playing till 4am when it first came out.
Hardly anyone seems to be getting into this one.
Viper and Shin care about Hawk you know :)
Quote from: L___E___T on March 15, 2012, 11:55:57 am
:D
I skipped SFxT too, I didn't find it fun but I do find it interesting.
I was surprised that it doesn't have that fun factor bug that SF4 did/does that kept me up playing till 4am when it first came out.
Hardly anyone seems to be getting into this one.
Viper and Shin care about Hawk you know :)
Someday, when SFxT will be dirt cheap used, I'll buy a copy for my collection, and hey, maybe I'll find that I missed out. Probably not, though. No Honda is just inexcusable to me.
SF4 is a great game, while nowhere near as good as SF2 or the Alpha series, I have a lot of fun with it, and it introduced some of the most unique characters to ever appear in a fighting game.
L___E___T, let me ask you something, how do you feel about the Street Fighter III series? I'm not too big on it for a couple reasons... first of all, I am horrible at parrying, and that's just such a big part of the gameplay, and moreso, I just feel so lost regarding the character selection... while I like Hugo and Alex, they just make me miss the SF2 cast when I play it. But I respect the fact that they were going for something different.
And yeah, I know there are some great Hawk players. A few SSF4 examples would be KoujiKOG, Hibisan, sushiya, GoldenToy, ink7, and Yokuboo. Oh, and me of course. :P
I'm better than all of those ;)
I stoppped playing Hawk though after I realised he's basically just gimmicks.
I like 3rd Strike, I spent about a year modding it - but the cast is not consistent. I stopped playing because of the 3S community, a bunch of asshats.
I got excited whern they announced the remix, but they got a poor US developer onboard and they managed to change very little but ruin it all the same.
Had they added characters and balanced, I would've gone back in I think. For me, SF2>SF4>SF0>SF3>SFEX and then all the crossovers after that.
Unfortunately for Capcom, they listened to the elitist 3S community and kept it as it was (apart from throwing in a few bugs)!
Quote from: L___E___T on March 15, 2012, 01:13:57 pm
I'm better than all of those ;)
I stoppped playing Hawk though after I realised he's basically just gimmicks.
I like 3rd Strike, I spent about a year modding it - but the cast is not consistent. I stopped playing because of the 3S community, a bunch of asshats.
I got excited whern they announced the remix, but they got a poor US developer onboard and they managed to change very little but ruin it all the same.
Had they added characters and balanced, I would've gone back in I think. For me, SF2>SF4>SF0>SF3>SFEX and then all the crossovers after that.
Unfortunately for Capcom, they listened to the elitist 3S community and kept it as it was (apart from throwing in a few bugs)!
Trust me man, Hawk is far from a gimmick character. When used smartly, his normals make for great poking tools, as well as for zoning his opponent. High-level T. Hawk play requires much patience regarding which normals to use in what situation, or when to go for a Mexican Typhoon. Yes, on VERY low level gameplay, gimmicky mashing T. Hawk can win, but I've beaten some tournament players with Hawk, and that type of gameplay doesn't work, or they'll just bait out them throws all day. Yes, he does have a few gimmicks... but then again, which character doesn't? ;D
I've noticed a lot of elitism in general among the fighting game community, 3rd Strike in particular. ._. I would love to see much of the Third Strike cast brought back for the next Street Fighter game.
I can't resist spinning the stick, it's too fun :)
I main Cody and Guy now though, not as good with either as I ever was with Hawk though.
is anybody here a fan of snk fighters? I've played some samurai showdown and a lot of Motw, but last blade 2 and kof 98 I guess are the most popular and sometimes I wish I knew how to play them at some sort of basic level.
to reply to posts from the other thread
nightstar, I have play a decent bit of super turbo, just not a ton like hyper. I also like playing boxer a lot in hyper, who is really buff in ST : ) But I usually mess around with fei, I like his style. One problem is my biggest fighter buddy doesn't like it, and I can sympathize with his complaints on it, him basically subscribing to this view (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfRGV7T9qbI).
drakon
I'm not going to argue your points against HF, I just like both it and CE...
I grew up with sf too, playing it in the arcades every chance I could, at home, on family vacation, wherever. I never came across one of these CE hacks. Then I finally got hyper fighting for SNES, and thinking SF at home was the best thing since sliced bread and played the ever living crap out of it. So I guess I have nostalgia for the version.
I was a big latecomer and never got serious or good at 3S but I like it solely for having the parry mechanic (well, and some good animation and music). Anything that allows you a frame advantage or total negation of an offensive that you can see coming is cool in my mind.
The only time I played 4 was on an xbox 360 standard controller, which i hate, so even though it felt like it handled bad, I know that I didn't have a good basis for making an opinion on the matter. But I must say I really dislike the character models, is it just because they aren't 3d? They seem so puffy.
Welcome to the fight club, Zoast. Yeah, I'm a huge fan of SNK fighters! You have good taste, MOTW and Samurai Shodown (2 to be exact) are my favorites. I main Tizoc and Earthquake in each game, respectively.
Ah, I understand, I actually play Boxer and Honda in ST. But honestly, the early versions of SF2 are my favorites, I play Hyper Fighting a lot on XBL.
And I'm actually a pad player, I use the standard 360 pad for SF4. xD I'm just too garbage on stick.
@L___E___T: Ah, Cody is solid as hell in A.E. 2012. I honestly think he's the second best character in the game, after Cammy. Today I had a couple matches with one of the top 20 Guy players in the world, I used Zangief, and beat him both times. After that, I came back for a third match, and he kicked me. Sent me a message about how I spammed throws, too. Implying that Zangief isn't supposed to throw.
I'm a Street Fighter 2 Nut..
SNES, Genesis, Game Boy and Master System
.....This is officially one of the sickest mods I've ever done....
http://www.famicomworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=7465.0 (http://www.famicomworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=7465.0)
(yes it's fighting game related)
I started out with Street Fighter II (Super, for SNES) so that series is close to my heart. And it´s still dead good too. I played a lot of 2D Capcom fighters on my Dreamcast, love Marvel vs Capcom 2 and Street Fighter III Third Strike.
And then Soul Calibur swallowed me whole. Awesome game, especially on Dreamcast. I like SC II too, but it´s so dissappointing that SCV doesn´t have character endings for the arcade mode :'(
The Soul Calibur games seem pretty fun, but the thing that turned me off from them, is right when I got Soul Calibur 4, I went straight to ranked matches, was about to win my first one... and my opponent ragequits. Kinda left a bad taste in my mouth, the fact that my very first one just happened to be a ragequitter. =/
I´ve never had that problem because I´m not very good at these online matches! I played SCIV during my free XBLA Gold period, and got slaughtered by all these aces! I think I have a win ratio of about 10%. What turned me off about SCIV were the Star Wars characters and the stupid armor breaking. I don´t want my cool custom charaters to strut around in their underwear!
Ahh, you didn't like the Star Wars characters? A lot of people seem to have mixed feelings regarding the console-exclusive characters.
Soul calibur is fun but I'm no good at games where you press a button and the move happens a few seconds later.
Quote from: Nightstar699 on March 20, 2012, 02:40:11 pm
Ahh, you didn't like the Star Wars characters?
The Star Wars cast just don´t fit in with the Soul Calibur universe. The series is supposed to be set in the 16:th century, not a long time ago in a galaxy far away ;) Namco did a lot better when they invited Assasins Creed Enzio.
Quote from: Drakon on March 20, 2012, 09:05:15 pm
Soul calibur is fun but I'm no good at games where you press a button and the move happens a few seconds later.
Hm, I really can´t say I recognize that expreience. One of the things I enjoy about Soul Calibur is how direct and responsive the controls are. A lot of people even accuse the series for being a button masher... Perhaps you refer to the moves where the character load up before delivering an extra powerful strike? Because normal combos are fast and furious ;D
To me anything that's not super instant is too slow haha
A just won a Honda Vs. Honda mirror match. Good god that was demoralizing, Honda Vs. Honda is the worst match in the game, I swear.
Edit: And to add on to that, Honda Vs. Chun Li is a matchup that's so hilariously broken, it's like proof that Capcom didn't test SSF4 enough. Want to know that matchup? Everything Chun does beats everything Honda does. End of story.
I know this's probably the last forum people would look for this on, but I made my own sf2 CE arcade hack taking all of my favourite parts from the various dumped hacks. I already recorded a playthrough and it's pretty insane I basically turned ryu into the ultimate badass. I'll upload the vid tomorrow. Yes this hack runs on the actual cps1 arcade hardware.
can't wait to see!!
Quote from: L___E___T on March 22, 2012, 06:23:03 am
can't wait to see!!
Really? Didn't expect that. Anyway here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_id_K42HVc&list=UU9G7zkSqL0nMI5eNk0uN65A&index=1&feature=plcp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_id_K42HVc&list=UU9G7zkSqL0nMI5eNk0uN65A&index=1&feature=plcp)
Quote from: Drakon on March 23, 2012, 09:00:21 pm
Quote from: L___E___T on March 22, 2012, 06:23:03 am
can't wait to see!!
Really? Didn't expect that. Anyway here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_id_K42HVc&list=UU9G7zkSqL0nMI5eNk0uN65A&index=1&feature=plcp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_id_K42HVc&list=UU9G7zkSqL0nMI5eNk0uN65A&index=1&feature=plcp)
I felt bad for Honda 10 minutes in. TwT
Quote from: Nightstar699 on March 24, 2012, 02:30:30 pm
I felt bad for Honda 10 minutes in. TwT
haha I made some more playthroughs with different characters they're on my youtube.
Okay, the Blanka playthrough was amazing. Seeing him do air-combos into the beast roll just tickled my fancy... one with Honda, please? :3
As for me, here is a video a friend of mine uploaded of me (ETN Dragon): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYsLv6l07EM
My T. Hawk vs. a top ranked Yun, and my E. Honda vs. a top ranked Cammy.
I've been trying to make a good honda video but unfortunately he's a bit wimpy in this hack. When the computer had the ability to teleport honda was a major beast but without teleportation he's not that great. For some reason both chun li and blanka shoot fireballs when doing the fast kick / elecricity but honda doesn't shoot fireballs. Also hondas flying sumo move doesn't happen instantly like blanka because of a bit of animation before he starts flying through the air. I find the weakest characters in this hack to be honda, zangief, dhalsim, m bison, and vega. All the characters who you used to have to hold a direction for a couple of seconds are now able to pull off their moves instantly except for....vega... I found another hack that has vega able to insta move but it was too difficult to find the programming that allows you to do that. Unfortunately changing the programming for the button hold timing isn't as simple as changing a single hex value like how I was able to improve ryus uppercut by changing two hex values (one for vertical distance the other for horizontal).
DOSUKOI!
nevermind I recorded a no death playthrough of honda last night, will upload it when I get the time.