I don't hate Sonic, but God dammit, Sonic 4 is atrocious, while it has really nice graphics to look at and music the gameplay is just too slow, and to be honest, it doesn't feel like the real Sonic which is fast as hell or jump to things without pressing a button.
Dimps, the company that developed the best Dragon Ball Z games for PS2, PS3 and Xbox 360 has made two really horrible games, and they're called Sonic 4.
Though, if the physics were alike Sonic Generation I would've totally loved it, but it wasn't.
On Sonic 4 you jump and then you press A (Xbox 360), X (PS3) or whatever to aim at it and hit it dead on.
'cos on the other Sonic's as I remember I'd control my Sonic and then move him manually to smash the item.
I haven't played the newest one, but the first one was a lot of fun. It felt like Sonic 1 to me, which was pretty damn slow.
Quote from: son_ov_hades on May 17, 2012, 06:47:41 pm
I haven't played the newest one, but the first one was a lot of fun. It felt like Sonic 1 to me, which was pretty damn slow.
In Sonic 4 you can just walk up and make it to the destination, I don't remember this happening on Sonic 1, I'd get stopped because of the really low speed.
Looks fast enough to me from youtube videos. My only complaint is sonics animation looks really retarded. I like how they kept the retro sfx and snare drum sound from the sega genesis. It's obviously just riding on the nostalgia wave but I don't mind that I think a newer generation should experience stuff like this. The stages really look like a lot of fun and bring back that classic sonic gameplay that people really fell in love with 20 years ago. Seriously though streets of rage remake needs to be ported to consoles everywhere in a similar fashion.
Quote from: Drakon on May 18, 2012, 06:51:34 am
Looks fast enough to me from youtube videos. My only complaint is sonics animation looks really retarded. I like how they kept the retro sfx and snare drum sound from the sega genesis. It's obviously just riding on the nostalgia wave but I don't mind that I think a newer generation should experience stuff like this. The stages really look like a lot of fun and bring back that classic sonic gameplay that people really fell in love with 20 years ago. Seriously though streets of rage remake needs to be ported to consoles everywhere in a similar fashion.
That's so silly, you're judging Sonic 4 off of YouTube videos. lol
There was a demo last time round, I found it extremely clunky to play and not all like what made the old games good.
I even bought it on iPhone, bad decision there.
I've played it. It's a good game.
Just to add to this thread, Sonic 4 is 'dead' already, they canned the third episode pre-emptively.
Quote from: FamicomRetroGamer on May 18, 2012, 08:03:28 am
That's so silly, you're judging Sonic 4 off of YouTube videos. lol
I'm judging the visuals and music and how the gameplay looks from them. Is that really such a terrible thing? Is there some sort of issues with the controls that I'm not aware of?
Quote from: Drakon on May 18, 2012, 10:12:39 am
Quote from: FamicomRetroGamer on May 18, 2012, 08:03:28 am
That's so silly, you're judging Sonic 4 off of YouTube videos. lol
I'm judging the visuals and music and how the gameplay looks from them. Is that really such a terrible thing? Is there some sort of issues with the controls that I'm not aware of?
Sonic 4 doesn't move anywhere near as fast as the other Sonics did or be rapid, Sonic 4 relies too much on button aiming.
It looks to me like it's moving as fast as older sonics, weird.
Quote from: Drakon on May 18, 2012, 02:17:34 pm
It looks to me like it's moving as fast as older sonics, weird.
That's entirely false what you've just said.
But well, you really need to play the game before making such judgements about this game.
Quote from: FamicomRetroGamer on May 18, 2012, 02:24:54 pm
Quote from: Drakon on May 18, 2012, 02:17:34 pm
It looks to me like it's moving as fast as older sonics, weird.
That's entirely false what you've just said.
But well, you really need to play the game before making such judgements about this game.
I need to play it to see how quickly sonic moves? What does youtube somehow make things appear to move faster?
YouTube: You're watching a video.
Game: You're experiencing how the game really plays like.
^ This is the difference between YouTube and the game.
Anyway, stay away the hell away from Sonic 4. Sonic Generations is the best Sonic game Sega has produced in these years, finally an awesome game, but then they revived a nightmare called "Sonic 4". :-\
Edit: If you don't have a console that plays Sonic 4 or anything, Steam is on PC/MAC so you should be able to play its trial, if such thing exists for the PC/MAC version.
I'll be uploading the trial of Xbox 360 version to post on Digiex.
Yeah Drakon sorry but I'm with FRG on this one, you need to play it to feel how clunky and awkward it is. On top of that it doesn't have that special element.
I just thought it's kind of weird that you need to play it to feel how fast it is....I've never had a game where I'd have to be pressing a button to "feel the speed" instead of just watching a video of the speed. Youtube 30 fps limit makes it appear to move faster somehow?
Just to moderate a little bit, it does feel slow. But not slow enough to make it bad in any real sense.
It's things like button response mainly. You can't control sonic as well as you used to in the older games. The acceleration and deceleration feels way off too.
Oh okay I thought he meant that sonic didn't move as fast as the older ones. The last thing I would expect in a modern system is control delay I mean modern hardware is so darn powerful you would expect controller response never to be an issue.
Yeah it's odd, it's not lag, but it's basically a case of Sonic doesn't go where you want him to go, nor as fast, he doesn't control right.
I think DIMPS is a great development team, so I'm at a loss. It's probably the most important part to get right anbd the first to put people off if done badly.
If you can get your hands on the game or even a demo you'll see what we mean. In the 16-bit games you could control his slow and fast paced speed really well given time, with each careful tap of the d-pad and that's just not the case with this one. The homing jump exacerbates this problem I'd say.
Quote from: L___E___T on May 22, 2012, 06:25:54 am
Yeah it's odd, it's not lag, but it's basically a case of Sonic doesn't go where you want him to go, nor as fast, he doesn't control right.
I think DIMPS is a great development team, so I'm at a loss. It's probably the most important part to get right anbd the first to put people off if done badly.
If you can get your hands on the game or even a demo you'll see what we mean. In the 16-bit games you could control his slow and fast paced speed really well given time, with each careful tap of the d-pad and that's just not the case with this one. The homing jump exacerbates this problem I'd say.
If Sonic 4 was anything like Sonic Generations, I'd so buy Episode I and Episode II, but unfortunately, the truth's ugly.
Here's a demo of Sonic 4 Episode II for Xbox 360: http://digiex.net/downloads/download-center-2-0/xbox-360-content/arcade-games/10755-sonic-4-episode-ii-arcade-trial-download.html (should've posted this early as I ended the upload sometime ago before yesterday or so)
I'm probably gonna buy it anyways or my gf will buy it for me (She is a huge Sonic fan) so I know I'll play it eventually. I guess I'll give my 2 cents then...