I'm making this thread to document my first experience with a drug other than marijuana. I don't ever want to forget what I experienced, and I don't think I will, but just in case, I'm writing everything I can remember here, and hopefully you'll all get a kick out of it. :blinky: (If you'd like to skip the backstory and go straight to my experience, it'll be labelled and you can just start reading there.)
So, the other day, my friends and I went to Omaha to the Henry-Doorly Zoo (recently voted the #1 zoo in America!), and had a great time. Afterwards, we decided to go to a few stores, and a few of those included some headshops (or places where you can buy pipes, bongs, and other accessories for pot-smoking). We went to these looking for salvia, but apparently that was recently made illegal and none of us knew, so, not wanting to go home empty-handed, I started to ponder other "legal" highs.
I'm only 17, so two of my friends who are 18 would go into the headshop for me and scout it out. Eventually, one guy sold us this stuff that looked like K2 to me. My friends didn't remember the name he said, they bought one gram split into two small bags for $30, and the guy said it was "50x," which, if you don't know, is very strong in terms of the high the product gives you. This is a picture of what I bought. http://i.imgur.com/e69Tz.jpg
Now, I was originally going to have someone sit with me so I didn't freak out while I smoked it, but no one was available, and I wanted to see what it did, so I smoked it at home while my parents were in bed. (I've done this before with pot, so this isn't anything out of the ordinary.) I got the packages out of my wallet, took about two pinches of the stuff out of the bags and put it in my pipe (with a screen) and took it outside.
12:57AM
Hit #1:
I hold it in for 40 seconds. I exhale. Nothing.
Hit #2:
I hold it in for 30 seconds. I exhale. At this point, I'm starting to feel a bit like how I do when I come up on pot, but I feel like it might just be placebo. Going against my better judgement, I take another hit, instead of just putting the rest back and waiting for the two hits to kick in.
Hit #3:
I hold it in for 25 seconds. I exhale. At this point, I feel almost what could be described as lightheaded, but this is also a similar feeling to a pot high, so I don't find anything out of the ordinary.
Hit #4:
This is where it really starts to hit me. I can definitely tell I'm high. I should have definitely stopped here.
Hit #5:
Basically, the feelings from the last hit intensify.
Hit #6:
My last one. I can tell I should definitely not do anymore. The stuff in my pipe is almost cash anyway, so I blow it out and head in.
My Experience
I walk back in my house through the slide-door in the kitchen while still holding my pipe, lighter, and phone. I walk through the kitchen and into our dining room.
The next thing I'm aware of: I'm seeing shapes, designs, and images of various colors, letters, and creatures based on the style of the Klasky Csupo logo that always played after "The Rugrats" (a popular cartoon on Nickelodeon in the 90s. The logo always freaked me out as a kid. Here's a video of the exact thing I'm talking about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90U0dYQDft0 ) Everything I'm seeing is over a black background. I am not aware of reality at all.
Now, while I'm seeing all of these things, I feel as though my body is continuously being dispensed out of a soft-serve ice cream machine (there was no actual machine, that was just the closest I can match the feeling to anything). I am hearing every uneasy, awful, terrible sound that I have ever made come out of my body (i.e screams, groans, heaves, etc.), and I am feeling every uncomfortable feeling I have ever felt. It's not necessarily painful, it was more like I was continuously gagging, cramping, different parts of my "body" were "falling asleep" (that feeling you get when your leg goes numb after you've been sitting down for a long time). The reason "body" is in quotes is because at this time, I am not a person. I am simply existing.
I am "conscious," but I am not tangible. I feel as though I'm both alive and dead. As this is going on, I ponder life after death, and what things were like before the universe existed, and now I am strongly convinced that this is how everything was, but maybe minus the constant uncomfortable feeling. We are constantly aware, but we are nowhere. We're just existing, and all we see is darkness and/or things that aren't tangible. I forget everything that has ever happened, and at that moment, I am convinced that this is all life ever was, and the only reason I'm feeling such uncomfortable feelings right now and are so aware of the pain is because that's just how life is, and eventually the uncomfortable feelings and sounds will pass and I will go back to simply seeing darkness and/or the same shit without the uncomfortable feeling. I am now sad because I seriously think this is all life ever was and is ever going to be, and I really hate it and want it to stop. After experiencing that for what seemed like a few hours, I start to hear my name. The voice calling my name is a voice I've never heard before.
Eventually, the voice turns into my mother's, and after awhile, I snap out of the visual, and now I am once again viewing reality (in this case, my mom's face saying my name), but still in soft-serve-o-vision. I'm sprawled out on the floor in the dining room, just a few feet from the doorway from the kitchen into the dining room, all the stuff I had in my hand was dropped. She asks what happened and tells me that I was screaming a lot. I still have no control over my body, but I'm aware of what I'm doing. I'm making my legs go in circles and I'm slithering my arms around the floor. She starts asking me questions like what I did, where I got it from, etc. She wasn't mad at all. I was sobbing this whole time too, but eventually I told her everything that happened, and she slowly talked me back down to Earth. The trip abruptly stopped after awhile, and I looked at my phone.
1:18AM.
TL;DR: I tripped balls. Never doing it again (however, pot is another argument). Probably would have been fine had I stopped at one or two hits, but I really don't feel like risking it.
Looks like short but intense, perhaps "Dr Gonzo" knows the answer >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4Yl_r_CXeA
Anyway, glad ur OK man, but you gotta be careful :fire:
(http://www.gamerevolution.com/images/misc/Don__t_Do_Drugs_by_kotaro91.jpg)
Good to hear that your mom cared about your well-being more than the pipe you left on the floor. I suspect there's a "talk" coming on once you sober up, though :D
Also:
http://www.walkingtowardsthelight.org/a-series-of-huxley-quotes-from-the-doors-of-perception-3-brain-as-reducing-valve/ (http://www.walkingtowardsthelight.org/a-series-of-huxley-quotes-from-the-doors-of-perception-3-brain-as-reducing-valve/)
QuoteThe suggestion is that the function of the brain and nervous system and sense organs is in the main eliminative and not productive. Each person is at each moment capable of remembering all that has ever happened to him and of perceiving everything that is happening everywhere in the universe. The function of the brain and nervous system is to protect us from being overwhelmed and confused by this mass of largely useless and irrelevant knowledge, by shutting out most of what we should otherwise perceive or remember at any moment, and leaving only that very small and special selection which is likely to be practically useful.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5MGV7ioTM7o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5MGV7ioTM7o)
Nice trip :)
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Quote from: MWK on June 15, 2012, 03:18:41 am
Looks like short but intense, perhaps "Dr Gonzo" knows the answer >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4Yl_r_CXeA
Hunter S. Thompson is my favorite author, and that is one of my favorite movies!
Quote from: UglyJoe on June 15, 2012, 04:33:29 am
Good to hear that your mom cared about your well-being more than the pipe you left on the floor. I suspect there's a "talk" coming on once you sober up, though :D
Also:
http://www.walkingtowardsthelight.org/a-series-of-huxley-quotes-from-the-doors-of-perception-3-brain-as-reducing-valve/ (http://www.walkingtowardsthelight.org/a-series-of-huxley-quotes-from-the-doors-of-perception-3-brain-as-reducing-valve/)
QuoteThe suggestion is that the function of the brain and nervous system and sense organs is in the main eliminative and not productive. Each person is at each moment capable of remembering all that has ever happened to him and of perceiving everything that is happening everywhere in the universe. The function of the brain and nervous system is to protect us from being overwhelmed and confused by this mass of largely useless and irrelevant knowledge, by shutting out most of what we should otherwise perceive or remember at any moment, and leaving only that very small and special selection which is likely to be practically useful.
Thanks for that link. That quote amazes me to no end. My mom talked to me this morning about getting help because last night I told her I was depressed, but I don't think we're doing anything serious yet. I'm going to start running/exercising a little bit and she wants me to talk to my brother about it, and I guess we'll see where things go from there.
Quote from: 80sFREAK on June 15, 2012, 06:15:28 am
Nice trip :)
Anything but. I say this based solely on what I was feeling. If I was just seeing everything, I feel like I could have gotten over what I was hearing and turned it into something positive, but in addition to everything in my first post, it also felt like my entire skeleton was breaking as I was going through the soft-serve machine. It didn't hurt though, like I said, there was no pain. The only thing I felt was the pressure change of when something in your body pops or breaks, and I've never really thought about it before but I really do hate that feeling if I'm popping anything bigger than my knuckles or toes. Every time I pop my back I cringe a little bit.
And wine makes me stay more awake (+ energetic) and lose the shyness I have. Wouldn't say alcohol's bad if used moderately.
did you try lsd?
Some say drugs help you open your mind and stuff. Well, maybe, if you are stuck in something. I would say very soon it just becomes a habit you're stuck in. We all know what a "pothead" is except the user himself.
I don't see the need for most drugs, except alcohol. Our society is based on the continous consumption of alcohol. There's few alternatives for recreation.
Incidentally, I spent 75% of today in bed. I think I was a bit depressed. But I have found it helps just to stay in bed until feeling like getting up.
Just say no to anti-depressants and other psych drugs! They mess you up worse than pot, and the long time effects are not researched even 1% of the long term effect of pot.
Possible side effects include for example: weight gain, weight loss, become aggresive, get mouth-dryness, lose your hair, lose sleep, sleep all the time, get higher sex drive, lose your sex drive, become impotent. My kidneys even stopped working! Nah, just say no to be a human guinea pig for the med companies.
Quote from: famifan on June 15, 2012, 11:59:44 am
did you try lsd?
No. I smoked something reminiscent to K2, which is synthetic marijuana.
It's funny, every time I hear a story like this I'm always reassured in my not drinking or doing drugs. Nothing against anyone who does, I just don't see how this kind of thing is enjoyable.
Quote from: son_ov_hades on June 15, 2012, 12:36:10 pm
It's funny, every time I hear a story like this I'm always reassured in my not drinking or doing drugs. Nothing against anyone who does, I just don't see how this kind of thing is enjoyable.
When people feel trapped, sometimes they turn to any means available to them to escape reality. That being said, personally I drink maybe 3-4 times a year (and even then it's limited to a single bottle)... and I don't do any drugs. IMHO... drugs are usually the resort of the broken or the lost.
You only live once. I say try a small dose and learn your lesson! I did when I was around your age. Havn't touched anything since, guess I learned my lesson, but I would never take that experience back because now I KNOW how stupid it is so I'm no longer curious haha.
If someone doesn't try something a little crazy like this atleast once in their life I think there's something mentally wrong with them.
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I haven't tried or drank anything. I can't tell if I'm the product of a moral upbringing, or if something is wrong with me.
QuoteThe suggestion is that the function of the brain and nervous system and sense organs is in the main eliminative and not productive. Each person is at each moment capable of remembering all that has ever happened to him and of perceiving everything that is happening everywhere in the universe. The function of the brain and nervous system is to protect us from being overwhelmed and confused by this mass of largely useless and irrelevant knowledge
Reminds me of Kingdom of the Crystal Skull's ending.
I really don't think you should be promoting drugs on a (relatively) kid-friendly forum, that you are also a moderator on...
Also, please take it from someone older and with your future in concern, this is a phase you really should make sure you get out of.
It might be fun now, but when you're out of it you'll look back at your friends that are not and be glad you did.
Please trust me - it leads down a sorry path.
Almost everyone goes through a phase where they do this stuff. I did. We all don't need to be so judgmental. Just be careful and smart so you don't kill yourself. ;)
Quote from: ericj on June 15, 2012, 04:06:50 pm
Just be careful and smart so you don't kill yourself. ;)
That's the tricky part.
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Quote from: son_ov_hades on June 15, 2012, 12:36:10 pm
I just don't see how this kind of thing is enjoyable.
Like others have said, have you ever tried drinking or smoking pot? Until you have, you don't know what you're missing. I'm not saying you should, I'm just saying, you can't fully understand until you've been on both sides. What I described in my first post was nothing like marijuana. The name "synthetic marijuana" is where the similarities end between the substance I consumed and pot. The high you get from pot is nothing like this. The biggest difference is that you don't hallucinate, no matter what you see in the movies, regular, good ol' marijuana will never make you hallucinate unless you do a lot, and even then it's iffy. Alcohol is sort of a different thing on it's own. I stop drinking when I start to feel it, which is usually about twoish cups of some sort of 5/6 mix of soda and vodka.
The biggest mistake I made in this whole situation was I outright ignored my better judgement and also the advice others gave me. The guy who sold it to us, and a few other people in there who were getting the same thing, told us it was heavy shit, and in the car, we were talking about it and they were like "you should definitely only do like 1 hit." Obviously you can see how that turned out. From this experience, I have learned not only to be more cautious of things that I haven't read about first, and also to obey the label. If it says "50x," don't take six fucking hits. Ugh. ::)
Quote from: famiac on June 15, 2012, 08:07:23 pm
LSD is nothing like that.
Have you ever done LSD?
Quote from: L___E___T on June 15, 2012, 03:17:37 pm
I really don't think you should be promoting drugs on a (relatively) kid-friendly forum, that you are also a moderator on...
I am in no way promoting drugs. I have not said once that doing any kind of drug is a good thing, because it isn't. It's just something people do, and lots of people go through this phase in their life.
Quote from: L___E___T on June 15, 2012, 03:17:37 pm
Please trust me - it leads down a sorry path.
I don't consider marijuana to be a gateway drug. Some people share my opinion, some don't. I can see both sides. The reason that I can see why some people say it is a gateway drug is because my stepsister, who is now 23, is in rehab for the third time after abusing painkillers and other pills she did not have a prescription for. It started when her roommate in college found enough pot to get her charged with intent to distribute and also Xanax that wasn't prescribed. The reason I feel I differ from my stepsister is that I've made a promise to myself that I will never do what I call "white" drugs. (i.e unprescribed pills, cocaine, crack, etc.) I understand the positive experience those drugs can give a person, but I'm smart enough to know that the side effects are too deadly to even try it once, and I've never had any thoughts about wanting to try those.
Those drug programs we always had in elementary and middle school spoke to me. They told me all the dangers about all the common street drugs, and all the things they said about cocaine and all of those drugs sounded really bad to me, but then when they talked about pot and alcohol, they really didn't say anything convincing, or truly believable to me for that matter, even as a child. Ever since then, I'd always been curious about what they actually did, and wanted to try them at some point in my life at least once to find out. I enjoyed the effects, and that was not at all what this was. I did not enjoy this experience, and I will never do it again. It definitely was a learning experience though, and it will definitely influence any future decisions I make about drugs.
I mainly agree with L__E__T . Drugs are not cool.
However, I think marijuana is acceptable. It doesn't have to be a gateway drug if you don't want it to be. Use in moderation. ;D