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Family Computer => Famicom / Disk System => Topic started by: 8-bitman on November 16, 2012, 03:16:10 am

Title: famicom pirate insides
Post by: 8-bitman on November 16, 2012, 03:16:10 am
I am not sure were this should be posted.

pic at the bottom. I don't know how to put pics in my post. :(
Title: Re: famicom pirate insides
Post by: famifan on November 16, 2012, 03:26:15 am
nothing special, just old-fashioned pirate cart with DIP chips

what was your question?
Title: Re: famicom pirate insides
Post by: 8-bitman on November 16, 2012, 03:35:29 am
what are DIP chips? Also when was this made do you think and by what company?

I also can't find any info on this cart. why would that be?
Title: Re: famicom pirate insides
Post by: 80sFREAK on November 16, 2012, 03:52:15 am
nice photo...
Title: Re: famicom pirate insides
Post by: jpx72 on November 16, 2012, 04:51:08 am
Where have you been 8-bitman? Everybody knows that with pirate cartridges, there's very little chance of getting ANY info at all, you probably won't find anything about company, manufacturing year or whatever of your cartridge. It's a nice cart because it has no black drop-like "globs" (like this Contra (http://bootgod.dyndns.org:7777/profile.php?id=3986)) instead of the real chips (DIP = dual in-line package = a chip with small legs in two "rows" on both sides).
There are some pirates that are widely recognisable by collectors, but you will have to make a better photo of it and have high luck level to get the info you seek.
Title: Re: famicom pirate insides
Post by: 8-bitman on November 16, 2012, 12:30:05 pm
I am kinda new to the world of pirates this is my first cart like this. I am guess its an old cart but thats just a guess.

If this can be translated then we would lern a lot.
Title: Re: famicom pirate insides
Post by: Oreanor on November 16, 2012, 01:42:06 pm
such carts are typical for the mid-nineties
Title: Re: famicom pirate insides
Post by: 80sFREAK on November 16, 2012, 03:26:13 pm
Much better now, how about PCB?
Title: Re: famicom pirate insides
Post by: 8-bitman on November 16, 2012, 04:16:59 pm
here is my best pic of the pcb.

heres what the chips say.

very top left:goldstar GD74LSI579240
under the very top left:HD74LS161AP
top middle:AX5202P
top right:goldstar GD74LSI579238
bottom left:KF-006 9252
bottom right:KF-007 9253
Title: Re: famicom pirate insides
Post by: 80sFREAK on November 16, 2012, 06:01:53 pm
This one should have extra sound channels MMC3 clone and cart was made in late 92/ early 93.
Title: Re: famicom pirate insides
Post by: 8-bitman on November 16, 2012, 06:17:21 pm
thanks that's cool to know.
Title: Re: famicom pirate insides
Post by: Rosser on November 16, 2012, 07:56:23 pm
Yeah Mr Freak is right its from 93 all three...well two now that I traded you (also were's my damn feedback!) are from 93 if you really want to know I can ask the guy I got them from but I'm not sure that's really necessary its just pirate cart from China.
Title: Re: famicom pirate insides
Post by: P on November 17, 2012, 04:21:10 am
Yeah since it's a pirate you can't really trust what is on the label.

I don't read Chinese but by looking on the first title 街頭霸王 it means something like "Street Master" according to a Chinese dictionary so I would suspect that most of the English titles there is somewhat correct.

Googling for 街頭霸王 gives you lots of Street Fighter pictures so I assume it's the Chinese name of the series. Just don't expect a perfect arcade conversion of Street Fighter II ;)
Title: Re: famicom pirate insides
Post by: 8-bitman on November 18, 2012, 02:11:47 pm
I wanted the red text under the red logo translated because that's the company that  made the cart.
If that were in English I could Google their name and find out who they are.
Title: Re: famicom pirate insides
Post by: P on November 18, 2012, 03:56:19 pm
Looks like it says 優良標記 (yōu​liáng biāo​jì) meaning something like "first-rate mark".
It's a bit hard to read though so you might want to double check on the cart that it's the same characters that I posted.
Title: Re: famicom pirate insides
Post by: 80sFREAK on November 18, 2012, 03:56:27 pm
I wouldn't trust that information
Title: Re: famicom pirate insides
Post by: 8-bitman on November 18, 2012, 08:16:18 pm
thanks its kind of stupid ,but I was interested in what the text on the cart said. Since I can't read Chinese and don't have a way to translate it.

P if you can just give me the Chinese that's in gold that would help me a lot.

P.S. P is right about the Chinese. I Google translated it.
Title: Re: famicom pirate insides
Post by: P on November 19, 2012, 09:42:01 am
OK tried to translate the rest:

Text with green background in the upper left corner: 書面 shū​miàn (written) 選關  xuǎn guān (choose, relation)
Probably a name or something. Only 書面 is a word.

Text with yellow background: 關關?彩物超所値 guān guān ? cǎi​ wù chāo suǒ zhí (relation, relation, ?, colouring, concrete thing, surpass, place, value)
No words this time so probably a name. I can't see what the third character looks like though. Maybe you could draw it bigger or something?

Again double check all characters as there are very likely errors.
Title: Re: famicom pirate insides
Post by: mrdomino on November 20, 2012, 06:21:37 pm
I think  書面選關 is supposed to mean "selection on-screen", ie advertising that it has a menu rather than having to reset like older multicarts.

"物超所値" google translates to "ultra value" so I'd guess the text above is a similar type of thing.

Its a shame there doesn't seem to be any company name on there, though, I've seen that logo on a few carts and I always wondered which company was behind it.
Title: Re: famicom pirate insides
Post by: P on November 20, 2012, 10:53:19 pm
Hmm the dictionary wasn't to much help then or I just got the wrong characters. Yeah I would guess that 書面選關 means text-based menu or something.

In Japanese 超 is used like "super" so it might mean super valuable item or something. Not the company name anyway...
Title: Re: famicom pirate insides
Post by: famifan on November 21, 2012, 01:56:40 am
what about the logo which is above the red text label? it reminds me smthing
Title: Re: famicom pirate insides
Post by: P on November 21, 2012, 10:24:19 am
That's either the company logo or some other kind of marking. If it is then I guess the company name is 優良標記 (yōu​liáng biāo​jì) or "first-rate mark". Note that the pinyin is for mandarin so if it's a Hong Kong company or something (the characters are non-simplified) the pronunciation would be different.
Title: Re: famicom pirate insides
Post by: famifan on November 21, 2012, 10:54:17 am
bump with some carts from my stash where the same logo appeared
Title: Re: famicom pirate insides
Post by: retrogamer28 on November 21, 2012, 12:17:31 pm
Sorry to do an advert, but I see you know some Pirate games on Famicom.
I presented my project on this forum but nobody came to contribute.
This is a video to celebrate the 30th anniversary of the Famicom.
As we can present unlicensed and pirate games, I ask you if you are interested by this project and if you can help for some japanese and chinese games.

(and sorry for my poor and bad english)
Title: Re: famicom pirate insides
Post by: MasterDisk on November 21, 2012, 01:47:06 pm
J'peux éventuellement contribuer sur quelques jeux pirates.

Je t'enverrais un MP quand j'aurais le temps.

/french
Title: Re: famicom pirate insides
Post by: famifan on November 22, 2012, 01:03:59 am
Quote from: retrogamer28 on November 21, 2012, 12:17:31 pm
Sorry to do an advert, but I see you know some Pirate games on Famicom.
I presented my project on this forum but nobody came to contribute.
This is a video to celebrate the 30th anniversary of the Famicom.
As we can present unlicensed and pirate games, I ask you if you are interested by this project and if you can help for some japanese and chinese games.

(and sorry for my poor and bad english)

no problem. already PM'ed
Title: Re: famicom pirate insides
Post by: 8-bitman on November 25, 2012, 01:54:57 pm
If I move the cart in the cartige slot on my famicom and hit reset it will be a 3 in 1 instead of a 10 in 1. I don't know why this happens.