I'm trying to get a RAM cart and a working FDS drive to swap for the broken one I put in the used FDS console I bought to swap drives with my Twin Famicom when the drive broke during shipping because the guy I got it from sent it in another box to save shipping costs. I'm gonna use it on my Retron 3 with the 60 to 70 pin adapter so I can play FDS game in the living room, but still keep my Twin in my room. I was wondering something. If the RAM cart pins are the only reason why NES top loaders and top loading NES clones don't play FDS games, couldn't the RAM cart be modded to fit the NES slot on my Retron 3? If so, would someone be willing to do it if I got a 2nd RAM cart, sent it to them, and paid for the mod? Theoretically, it should work. Notice how I said SHOULD, though!
Post Merge: February 16, 2013, 08:00:43 pm
Just read an article online that the EXT port on the bottom of the NES console was originally designed to work with a U.S. version of the FDS. The even filed U.S. patents for the FDS! If that's true, instead of a RAM cart, which is way too expensive for me, couldn't I get someone to take the wire from the PC FDS hookup I've seen online and rewire it to fit the EXT port of an NES? I'm going to a Sci-Fi convention in June, and they usually have cheap NES systems for sale. Would the NES be incompatible, software wise, or is this really the best NES option that lets me play U.S. NES game and Japanese FDS one on the same console? This seems like the cheapest, most NES friendly mod ever! If it works, I will be a retro gaming GOD! Or a least a demi-god.
You have to have a Ram adapter where else is the FDS going to load the game to Okame cloud land :upsetroll:
the bottom of the NES front loader is just an expansion port nothing more
bottom line it will be cheaper to just purchase another ram adapter
The FDS works with the top loading NES. Just plug the ram adapter into a converter and plug that into the NES cart slot. It really is that simple, absolutely no mod necessary. Why would you want to mod the ram adapter when all you need a 60-72 pin converter which can be had for much less than this imaginary mod would cost?
son_ov_hades, it's not that I need to get a RAM cart modded, it's that if I can get the right person to do it, they CAN mod it. I want to be able to say I have an NES that can play FDS games. Not a Famicom, but a U.S. Nintendo Entertainment System. Modding isn't about wanting or needing to have something done. It's about the endless possible combinations of even slightly compatible technologies!
Quote from: okame on February 17, 2013, 09:50:33 am
son_ov_hades, it's not that I need to get a RAM cart modded, it's that if I can get the right person to do it, they CAN mod it. I want to be able to say I have an NES that can play FDS games. Not a Famicom, but a U.S. Nintendo Entertainment System.
It's not worth it, just get a 60-72 pin converter and that's it. However, you will still need to do a mod on both the converter and top loader to get the external audio from the FDS.
I don't care about the audio. I have a stereo composite wire coming from my Retron 3, so hopefully, that compensates for the sound loss a little bit. Right now, I'm using the mono to dual mono/fake stereo cord I got on eBay for my Twin Famicom, so I've never noticed that much of a problem, sound wise. That, plus I'm 36, so I got used to the mono sound of most CRT TVs that we had during the 1980's. I even had a Commodore 64 monitor that I was stupid enough to give away to a cousin whose parents threw everything out when the C64 stopped working. I remember it handling retro games quite well, and I've been trying to find one online!
2A03 is talking about the sound chip inside the FDS RAM adapter and it has nothing to do with stereo. The NES doesn't have the necessary connections for the sound from this sound chip to reach the speakers. So without modding you won't hear some sounds from the FDS games at all and no composite wire can magically make the sound come out. It's a very simple mod to fix this though.
I don't have an NES top loader! I have a Retron 3 with an NES slot. I don't want to mod the Retron, because it plays NES carts. It also plays SNES and Genesis carts. The whole point was getting an 8/16 bit retro game collection and play it on ONE console! I want to buy a cheap toaster NES at a convention this summer. Then I want to be able to hook up an FDS console to it by using the expansion port UNDER the console, not anything IN it! WAIT! Brainstorm! Can the NES handle an FDS drive by itself if it was modded to work with the system? Basically, a U.S. version of the Twin Famicom? An FDS drive INSIDE of a toaster NES, that would still play NES games? Is THAT possible? If so, can anyone out there do it for less than $50, including shipping if I got the drive and NES first? I wouldn't be able to get the NES before the end of June, because that's when the convention is. There would be plenty of time for someone to work out the logistics of the U.S. NES Twin before attempting the mod. Well, any takers?
Quote from: okame on February 17, 2013, 09:09:02 pm
If so, can anyone out there do it for less than $50, including shipping if I got the drive and NES first?
You've gotta be fucking joking, mate...
Just out of curiosity, how much would it cost?
Hell is wrong with this guy, Is he doped up or just stupid
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Okame of course anything is possible but your suggestions are not reasonable. Do you even listen to what people say to you?
The NES can use the FDS just like a Famicom can but you'll need a pin adapter. The expansion port on the underside is not for FDS even if rumours say so. Making a Twin-NES is crazy, would cost you a lot and even if you paid someone a crazy amount to do it he would probably not be able to complete it before you lost interest anyway.
Just wondering. Not having a power adapter for my Twin Famicom is making me desperate! I was just wondering if it COULD be done. I didn't say I absolutely WANTED to do it! I deal in theory, not practice! I can't do much more than drive swaps on my Twin Famicom, so when a new idea hits, I need to know if it can be done. If someone WILL do it, so much more the better!
Quote from: okame on February 18, 2013, 06:31:55 am
I deal in theory, not practice!
So that's where your prices come from! ;D
Seriously man, no one will ever do major time consuming mods that no one else has ever done for 50 bucks. These imaginary mods you're coming up with are within the realm of possibility, but hundreds of light years away from practicality. That's why I said just get a pin converter, which can be had for less than 50 bucks and will allow you to play your FDS on your crappy NES clone(if the clone can handle the FDS).
I don't mean to be a dick, but what you're asking for $50 is actually pretty insulting.
Okame, You need to learn to vet out your ideas before posting asking about dumb shit you want done for basically free. Remember that nearly anything is possible given the skill set of the modder.
Either learn to do it yourself or be prepared to pay a handsome sum to someone to carry out your "theories". Nothing wrong with ideas, but holy fuck, just stop it already. :P
What about something small, like modding my Gameboy Printer to work with a power adapter instead of batteries, thereby giving me a place to store my link cable? Can that be done for a reasonable price? I'm getting my folks to buy me a Super Gameboy 2 and a universal GB/GBC/GBA link cable, so I wanted to see if the Super Gameboy 2 will let me use a Gameboy Camera and my printer to print out really cheesy black and white stickers!
i have an idea buy rechareables to use ur gameboy camera and get a twin system power supply to play fds games
Quote from: okame on February 18, 2013, 03:08:01 pm
I'm getting my folks to buy me a Super Gameboy 2 and a universal GB/GBC/GBA link cable, so I wanted to see if the Super Gameboy 2 will let me use a Gameboy Camera and my printer to print out really cheesy black and white stickers!
I seriously doubt you're in your 30s.
^I've been wanting to say that for awhile now haha.