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Asking 200$ +shipping :D
Any question please PM.
Paypal only.
Wish I had the cash.
This is probably the best looking pirate cart I've ever seen! With box and everything! :o
I know, I am so tempted to get that...I always wondered if people did "boutique" homebrew games in Japan or other countries (i.e., with custom manuals and stuff).
whats the story on this? Hack of Magic Dragon to resemble R Type more? (Magic Dragon is a pirate port of R Type with altered graphics)
Cool that they actually made it look like an Irem release.
Quote from: joestar3 on March 19, 2013, 08:30:26 am
I know, I am so tempted to get that...I always wondered if people did "boutique" homebrew games in Japan or other countries (i.e., with custom manuals and stuff).
Yeah theres tons of em. Ive seen just about every Konami FDS port CIB (Almana no Kiseki, Ai Senshi Nicol, Meikyuu Jin dababa, etc.) and a lot of US exclusive stuff CIB. They are common around Singapore and Thailand.
Didn't know about the box/manual stuff - I've seen the cart ports though. Glad to see some people take it seriously!
I was wondering that about Magic Dragon too - if they did, they certainly did a good job hacking the tiles based on those screenshots.
Yeah it;'s a hack, not 100% sure if Magic Dragon but I remember a previous thread we looked into this.
There's no way this can be a pirate? Must be a repro of somebody's rom hack. I've never seen a pirate trying to look that official before, and even having a manual. It screams more of someone's personal repro job than anything any pirate has ever produced for the market. Just no way. Of course, if anyone can prove me otherwise...
Quote from: Bramsworth on March 20, 2013, 06:38:41 pm
There's no way this can be a pirate? Must be a repro of somebody's rom hack. I've never seen a pirate trying to look that official before, and even having a manual. It screams more of someone's personal repro job than anything any pirate has ever produced for the market. Just no way. Of course, if anyone can prove me otherwise...
I've seen pirates that look quite nice, but they were always copies of original games, not new creations. I sort of thought that maybe this was a fan repro job or something too, but wanted to hear what others said about it first.
i guess he means custom repro of pirate game
Quote from: Bramsworth on March 20, 2013, 06:38:41 pm
There's no way this can be a pirate? Must be a repro of somebody's rom hack. I've never seen a pirate trying to look that official before, and even having a manual. It screams more of someone's personal repro job than anything any pirate has ever produced for the market. Just no way. Of course, if anyone can prove me otherwise...
Sure it can be a pirate. The most famous being the Ai Senshi Nicol release that looks like Konami actually produced it as a cart. Theres no solder or wires inside.
This is a repro by the way folks.
Quote from: Bramsworth on March 20, 2013, 06:38:41 pm
There's no way this can be a pirate? Must be a repro of somebody's rom hack. I've never seen a pirate trying to look that official before, and even having a manual. It screams more of someone's personal repro job than anything any pirate has ever produced for the market. Just no way. Of course, if anyone can prove me otherwise...
I have one pirate which has a manual, a Korean multicart which came in a Genesis-style box.
Quote from: L___E___T on March 21, 2013, 01:07:58 pm
This is a repro by the way folks.
Thanks for the clear answer. If it is just a custom, why such a high selling price? If it is a custom, why is it being advertised as a pirate? I don't know if it is a custom or not, but if it is (and wasn't something made back in the day), I would be upset if I dropped $200 on it to find this out later. If what L_E_T says is true, perhaps this one could be advertised better?
http://www.famicomworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=8637.0
Here the seller (Ryo) states its a repro.
Id still say its worth a fair amount due to the quality (certainly not $200 though, Id pay a little over $100), it has a box and manual. AND there is no ROM dump out there.
Quote from: VinylDracula on March 21, 2013, 10:15:09 pm
http://www.famicomworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=8637.0
Here the seller (Ryo) states its a repro.
Id still say its worth a fair amount due to the quality (certainly not $200 though, Id pay a little over $100), it has a box and manual. AND there is no ROM dump out there.
The screenshots look emulator quality. Maybe there is no available dump, but it looks like it has been dumped at some point.
I am not trying to knock on Ryo's sale at all, but this is one of the exact reasons why I am against reproductions for gaming devices. We see it a lot with Nintendo and Sega, and now I saw this with the Famicom. The box and manual are a nice touch, but I personally would never want to pay a large amount for some repro like this, which imo, has little to no historical value. Judging by some of the responses on here, it seems like a lot of people were confused when it is being sold as a pirate (at least I was a bit confused, wondered what the heck the thing was), and that just creates feelings I don't like.
I think it has value outside of collector, historical value. But I do think 200 is a bit steep also.
Quote from: L___E___T on March 22, 2013, 08:38:03 am
I think it has value outside of collector, historical value. But I do think 200 is a bit steep also.
If the game was not made during the time period of the Famicom, is not a bootleg, is not an official cart, and was only made by some fan afterwards, what historical value would it hold? This, to me, is like collecting replica paper money made by a museum...nice to hold and have, but worthless at the same time...
I'd have to agree there. Selling it as a pirate when it's someone's personal repro and then making up an inflated price really doesn't sit too well for me :x
I said I think it has value outside of historical value....
But on that note, the current repro phase IS historical value. Pirates didn't have historical value when they were made, nor did official games. Maybe you don't see it now, but in 10 years you will. How much value you attribute to that is another thing. The repros made from FDS conversions were selling way more than this (ask Stealthlurker), but I don't think this is the same. Still, at the end of it all something is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. That is true more than anything else covered here.
So sorry. It's my mistake. :-[ This is reproduction form original pirate game.
It's still very very nice Ryo! :)
Quote from: L___E___T on March 22, 2013, 01:33:34 pm
It's still very very nice Ryo! :)
Thanks L___E___T. :D
Did this version of R-Type ever get dumped?
If it's a reproduction doesn't that imply there is a rom?
I have a magic dragon cartridge which I think is awesome but I would love to have something like this! Way out of my price range though.
It does, but I gathered it was a converted ROM of Magic Dragon. It could be that the conversion has not been shared.
If made by the guy that did the Strider conversion to JP version and similar releases (Stealthlurker has some) then I don't think it's out there yet.
Meh, if it is a fake, I am not sure why would anyone be interested in it? I mean, basically it is just a hack of Magic Dragon, right? A hack of Mario 1, for example, wouldn't garner this price or this much attention, so why the difference?
Not this cartridge specifically. Just the idea of having what appears to be a faithful port of r-type in 8 bit.
I'm pretty sure "official" (if you can call it that lol) Dream Mary cartridges go for a half decent amount. Not $200 or anything but not cheap either. I've seen them go for $40+ And that is just a simple hack of super Mario bros. I get what you're saying though. This could easily be taken for something it isn't.
I'm much more interested in this than a random pirate cart. A while back I asked Ryo if he still has any of these left, but sadly, no.
Mods, please split thread from this
http://www.famicomworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=9140.msg155068#msg155068
Thanks.
Looks like mysterious game/hack/repro.
If this is something really unique, price of $200 is very low. But... there is no story behind it.
If this is "hack" of another game, price is very high. But... if this is hack, why it is not known? R-Type itself is very famous.
If it was made for personal use, there is no reason to sell it for only $200 and do not release any information. $200 will not patch a hole in the budget. And batch of, let's say 10 carts, $60-70 each can bring more profit, because setup cost is about the same.
The original thread is 18 months old so I necroposted - no need to split :)
Let's continue discussion and treat this like an R-Type Famicom thread :bub:
Ah, ok. So what is the chances this "repro" was fake?
Screenshots are from some emulation, but I think Iknow someone else who has one, I'll ask them, but I've no reason to believe it's fake. I trust Ryo.
http://rdev.g-pw.org/makimura/modification/magicdragon-exp
My Google-fu is stronger than yours.
(I signed up just to link this because I'm just as desperate to get it on a cart as you guys, I need it in my life)
Mapper 107 will surely complicate things though.
Ah, Family Basic guy ;D
I can guess, how mapper 107 working, but without digging code it might be not correct. If original Magic Dragon made on discrete chips, there should be 4 or 5 chips to control PRG and CHR.
I can try to open my magic dragon cartridge and take a picture of the PCB if that helps any? I know nothing about this so sorry if that sounds weird haha.
That would be good, because description of the mapper doesn't give much, just guess.
Quote from: MaxXimus on November 29, 2014, 03:36:43 pm
I can try to open my magic dragon cartridge and take a picture of the PCB if that helps any? I know nothing about this so sorry if that sounds weird haha.
Sounds great! It'd come in handy to know whether it's chips or glop tops.
If Magic Dragon suddenly becomes a 300 dollar game because I post that hack here I'm going to flip a table
BTW, if you look at the attract demo it becomes apparent only the first two levels are converted to look like R-Type, the other two still seem to be Magic Dragon, unless gameplay differs from the demo
still a pretty cool rom hack though, japanese rom hacks are like a whole undiscovered world sometimes
I popped it open and it's a glob top. One blob of epoxy only. Is it still worth taking the picture?
Nah, it will not help. The dump avaliable online is playable and it's only 192K(128K PRG and 64K CHR)
I would be pissed if Magic Dragon suddenly because worth $300 as well; however, it is already a $50 game basically, and it uses globs, as mentioned above, so there is not really much converting of anything due to that.