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Family Computer => Technical & Repair Assistance => Topic started by: tonev on April 10, 2013, 05:55:55 pm

Title: Make a original snes controller to a wii classic one?
Post by: tonev on April 10, 2013, 05:55:55 pm
Is it possible to make a original snes controller to a wii classic one?

I was thinking that i can use the cable from an broken nunchuk and solider the wires to the original cable connector since i found a picture of the board and it looks like the original one

(http://fathertom.net/hardwii/pictures/controller/frontinside.jpg)
Title: Re: Make a original snes controller to a wii classic one?
Post by: kiwidaveinjapan on April 10, 2013, 06:43:21 pm
Nintendo sold an official version of this in Japan....I have one that I have rarely used, still have the box too.
EDIT: Also noticed that the pic you have attached looks A LOT like the inside of one of these....
(http://cdn.ubergizmo.com/photos/2009/2/snes-wii-controller.jpg)
Title: Re: Make a original snes controller to a wii classic one?
Post by: tonev on April 10, 2013, 06:54:24 pm
I know that they have it in Japan but I was wondering if an actual snes controller could be modified in to a classic wii controller.
Title: Re: Make a original snes controller to a wii classic one?
Post by: gamefreak2600 on April 10, 2013, 07:22:46 pm
In theory it *might* be possible.  They share similar pinouts, if you look:

here: http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/9/6/0/7/5/a4003657-177-pinout-nunchuck-wii-motion-connector.jpg?d=1305089679
and here: http://flatfootfox.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/snes_pinout.png

But there seems to be no "strobe" pin on the Wii controller attachment....I don't know what that means for your project, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Make a original snes controller to a wii classic one?
Post by: Pikkon on April 11, 2013, 01:22:15 am
It will not work,have a look at the classic controller pcb to see.

Also this should answer your question.
http://benheck.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=71972&start=0
Title: Re: Make a original snes controller to a wii classic one?
Post by: tonev on April 11, 2013, 03:10:16 am
So it can be done it is just a lot of hard work. Hm will have to think about this.
Title: Re: Make a original snes controller to a wii classic one?
Post by: famifan on April 11, 2013, 06:56:15 am
1) learn the signal differences between controllers
2) make signal converter with some MCU or discrete chips
3) ???
4) profit

You're lucky just as it was done by somebody else. Use the source from http://gitorious.org/wii-retropad-adapter @ build yours

Don't be a lazy moron. Atmega chip costs below $5. I can't seen any hard work here
Title: Re: Make a original snes controller to a wii classic one?
Post by: P on April 11, 2013, 01:15:48 pm
An Atmega programmer costs a bit more however.
Title: Re: Make a original snes controller to a wii classic one?
Post by: tonev on April 11, 2013, 02:40:04 pm
Yes i will need to buy the chip , the programmer and learn how to program it.. I can learn how to do it but still. Oh and to buy a programmer just to program one or probably two chips is kinda useless i think. I will ask that guy on benheck's forum if he can program some chips for me.
Title: Re: Make a original snes controller to a wii classic one?
Post by: Pikkon on April 11, 2013, 02:42:57 pm
Let me know if he has any extra,wouldn't mine doing this as well.
Title: Re: Make a original snes controller to a wii classic one?
Post by: manuel on April 11, 2013, 04:50:18 pm
Quote from: kiwidaveinjapan on April 10, 2013, 06:43:21 pm
Nintendo sold an official version of this in Japan....I have one that I have rarely used, still have the box too. You wanna buy it?
EDIT: Also noticed that the pic you have attached looks A LOT like the inside of one of these....
(http://cdn.ubergizmo.com/photos/2009/2/snes-wii-controller.jpg)


Those weren't sold, they were given out as a prize from Club Nintendo.  :)
I still have mine.  :mario: Actually, I have 2.  ;D
Title: Re: Make a original snes controller to a wii classic one?
Post by: Pikkon on April 11, 2013, 05:52:15 pm
They were also available through club Nintendo of Europe.
Title: Re: Make a original snes controller to a wii classic one?
Post by: Rosser on April 11, 2013, 11:19:54 pm
With one of these the you can also program the D-pad to be the analog function instead of functioning as D-pad or set it to function as both analog and D-pad at the same time I'm not sure if its possable with the official Nintendo brand one but its really convenient  since there are decent amount of games that force analog use  I'm making a SFC wii controller as we speak well sorta its on the back burner
All you do is remove the chip in the SFC controller and solder wires in the place where the chip legs are then to the piiwee board . PC ribbon cables work great for this
(http://www.godlikecontrols.com/images/piiwee.jpg)
http://www.godlikecontrols.com/download/piiweewelcome.pdf

Post Merge: April 11, 2013, 11:27:22 pm

Also the PCB is already small but I just chop it up smaller and I solder the chip directly to the board so its lays flatter
Title: Re: Make a original snes controller to a wii classic one?
Post by: kiwidaveinjapan on April 12, 2013, 03:20:51 pm
Quote from: manuel on April 11, 2013, 04:50:18 pm
Quote from: kiwidaveinjapan on April 10, 2013, 06:43:21 pm
Nintendo sold an official version of this in Japan....I have one that I have rarely used, still have the box too. You wanna buy it?
EDIT: Also noticed that the pic you have attached looks A LOT like the inside of one of these....
(http://cdn.ubergizmo.com/photos/2009/2/snes-wii-controller.jpg)


Those weren't sold, they were given out as a prize from Club Nintendo.  :)
I still have mine.  :mario: Actually, I have 2.  ;D


Oh! I bought mine at a seocnd hand book store, and thought they were sold.  :-[ awkward!
Title: Re: Make a original snes controller to a wii classic one?
Post by: manuel on April 12, 2013, 08:03:56 pm
That's practically the only way to get them now. At thrift stores and used book/game stores.
Good find!
Title: Re: Make a original snes controller to a wii classic one?
Post by: Pikkon on April 12, 2013, 08:28:54 pm
It sucks America never got this controller. :'(

Oh well.
Title: Re: Make a original snes controller to a wii classic one?
Post by: L___E___T on April 13, 2013, 03:43:43 am
Why did America not get it and Europe did?  Odd...  Tempted to swap buttons on the Europe one to make it a US version.  You can buy them easily on eBay, but they're pricey. 
Just get one of those cheap as hell converters for a real SNES controller and spend a tenth the cost.
Title: Re: Make a original snes controller to a wii classic one?
Post by: kiwidaveinjapan on April 14, 2013, 03:49:46 pm
I'm willing to sell mine for ¥2000 + shipping in box if anyone wants to buy it. PM me if keen.

****EDIT: SOLD TO Pikkon****
Title: Re: Make a original snes controller to a wii classic one?
Post by: Pikkon on April 14, 2013, 10:43:29 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: Make a original snes controller to a wii classic one?
Post by: famifan on April 15, 2013, 06:59:22 am
Quote from: P on April 11, 2013, 01:15:48 pm
An Atmega programmer costs a bit more however.

are you joking? it costs as little as 5 wires with some resistors connected to parallel port

Post Merge: April 15, 2013, 07:07:01 am

http://diy4fun.blogspot.ru/2009/01/simple-serial-programmer-for-avr.html
http://www.arduino.cc/en/Hacking/ParallelProgrammer?from=Main.ParallelProgrammer
http://elecrom.wordpress.com/2007/10/15/make-your-own-ultra-simple-universal-avr-programmer/

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Title: Re: Make a original snes controller to a wii classic one?
Post by: P on April 16, 2013, 01:30:30 am
Oh I had no idea you could build it so easily! :o
Title: Re: Make a original snes controller to a wii classic one?
Post by: MarioMania on April 16, 2013, 05:15:27 pm
Did Nintendo of Japan just Recycle old Super Famicom Controllers ..Build it to for the Wii?

It sure looks like it from the Case
Title: Re: Make a original snes controller to a wii classic one?
Post by: Koveras on April 17, 2013, 12:07:12 am
I made USB SNES controller using that tutorial:
http://www.raphnet.net/electronique/snes_nes_usb/index_en.php
in the near future I'll make SNES controller to Wii using gamecube port:
http://www.raphnet.net/electronique/x2wii/index_en.php
or that version:
http://www.raphnet.net/electronique/extenmote/index_en.php
:pow:
Title: Re: Make a original snes controller to a wii classic one?
Post by: Rosser on April 18, 2013, 04:28:46 pm
Do these SFC controllers emulate analog as well as the D-pad
Title: Re: Make a original snes controller to a wii classic one?
Post by: kiwidaveinjapan on April 22, 2013, 05:45:18 pm
Just the d-pad. I was really sad when I discovered i couldn't play mariokart wii with mine.  :'(
Title: Re: Make a original snes controller to a wii classic one?
Post by: Rosser on April 22, 2013, 07:36:07 pm
Quote from: kiwidaveinjapan on April 22, 2013, 05:45:18 pm
Just the d-pad. I was really sad when I discovered i couldn't play mariokart wii with mine.  :'(


Well I'm glad I'm going with a piiwee board instead of the official one its a lot cheaper and it can use both d-pad as well as analog on the SFC pad
Title: Re: Make a original snes controller to a wii classic one?
Post by: P on April 22, 2013, 11:25:19 pm
If you look at the last link again you can see it does have analogic mode for snes controllers, mapping the left analogue stick on the classic controller to the snes d-pad. Playing games that uses the analogue stick with a digital d-pad might not be very practical though.

Speaking about analogues, he says it doesn't yet support the analogue features of the L/R buttons on the original classic controller for Gamecube controllers since he doesn't know any games that uses it. Is there even one game that uses it?
Title: Re: Make a original snes controller to a wii classic one?
Post by: g_block on May 05, 2013, 10:02:39 am
Two options I've found on eBay...

#1: Buy one of these and use all the parts (case, rubbers, buttons) from a Super Famicom controller to make it like one of the Club Nintendo ones
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Classic-Super-Famicom-SNES-Controller-for-Nintendo-Wii-System-Console-HOT-/121033797536?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c2e2d2fa0

or

#2 (which I've had one of these before, before I traded it to a friend who didn't have the cash to buy one) use this with the Wiimote and you have an adapter for not only SNES/SFC but NES/Famicom controllers as well
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NES-SNES-SFC-Controller-to-Wii-Adapter-Mayflash-Brand-New-/251114089146?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a7790eaba

or even a third option if you want to use Gamecube ports:

http://www.retrousb.com/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=31 (SNES/SFC)

and

http://www.retrousb.com/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=30 (NES)