Famicom World

God, this is so my week. My Ouya finally came. My verdit? It's decent, and it may shape up to be a decent platform. But for now, it's pretty rough. I'll give details if you guys are interested.

Feel free to share and take pictures if you like. Always fun to read about new consoles especially new platforms that are independant :star:

I'll just be lazy and copy/paste the first impressions I posted to another forum:

Got mine today (after DHL held it in their warehouse longer than it took for the package to travel from Hong Kong to Finland...) and I've been fiddling with it for a few hours now.

During my testing I found some games that I felt had zero input lag, as well as games that had either barely noticeable or noticeable lag. So I guess there is something to it on the software side and it is possible to have games that feel really good, controller-wise. I played only with the official controller, haven't tested any others yet. That segues smoothly into the controller itself - I think it might fool some people into thinking there's more lag than there actually is. The d-pad feels very mushy - I can lightly press a direction on it, feel it hit the bottom, but it doesn't register unless I apply just a little bit more force. Otherwise the controller felt alright - nothing special, but gets the job done. Can't really say anything about the shoulder triggers though, none of the ~10 games I tried out used them.

I think the system could be good, but it comes down to the games now. There's not a whole many games for it now, but then, the system's not officially out yet either. Exclusives are good, but as long as the mobile/indie game ports are done right (ie. no lag, taking advantage of the controller) that might be enough. One of the reasons I originally backed the project was because there are some mobile games I'd like to play with a proper controller instead of touch screen controls or tilting the device around. So I'm hoping to see ports of games like Asphalt 7: Heat or an Ouya-exclusive game of the series.

All the good games aren't released until the 27th or later.

Sonic CD HD
Sonic the Hedgehog 4 HD
Dead Trigger 2 HD
Rush Bros. HD
Shadowgun: Dead Zone HD
Crest of War HD
Dragon Maze HD
Fez HD
Flying Car HD
Space Operetta! HD
Rage Runner HD
Gravi HD
Operation Giant HD
Color Thief HD
WordTrap: Dungeon HD
MoonRush HD
Neon Shadow HD
Gaps Between Art HD
Story Quest HD
Time Robo HD
Steampunk Showdown HD
Frooxius' HD

All the above games are built in 3D graphics
Those are just a few of the good games coming to Ouya.

Whatttttttttttttttttt.... Alright, now I'm at least a little hyped for this thing.

Actually those are just the ones I thought looked fun, I ignored adding anything to the list that looked boring.

"Crest of War" is a FPS in the style of "Call of Duty", it looks massively promising. Actually well rendered, and could be a game that will help the system thrive.

When is the full version of Organ Trail going to hit? Hasn't the demo been up since March?

Most of the stuff in the store right now is just stuff to give people something to do until the real games are released.

I like the idea of the Oyua, but I like the idea of the open android platform more.

I just bought a JXD S7300 for only slightly more than an ouya would have cost.

The JXD S7300 is a 1.5Ghz dual-core, 1GB ram 7-inch Android tablet and portable game console based on android 4.1 and preinstalled with emulators and android games with access to all of the normal android tablet features and options.

It also has hdmi port with 1080p native support for everything.

Also, the thing just kinda sorta resembles a WiiU tablet controller

(http://www.willgoo.com/images/s7300.png)

It's still in the post though, so I have no idea if it lives up to its promise or not - I'm planning on using it to play retro games on. I love my modded original Xbox, and if this turns out to be anything like that, I'll be in heaven.

I do not know... It does look cool though, but it loses the purpose of Ouya.

I don't really understand Ouya's promise - it seems like an Android box that connects to the TV.  You don't need a console for that.

It's capable of cloud gaming for PC games, and will have its own games.

Right. The tablet I just bought is almost as powerful, but it's a self contained console that doesn't need a tv or even another controller - it just can be used with a tv and another controller if you want.

I'm reasonable sure I don't give a crap about the vast majority of android games. If I bought an Ouya, I would buy one to run emulators. Instead, the JXD WiiU tablet will do that and hopefully do that well. A full series of reviews will be forthcoming of course.

Yeah I don't get the 'cloud gaming' so much, plus not sure Ouya will really have its own games.  It seems a bit like an Android box, that dreamt it was a Steambox, but now the dream is over, and the nightmare is real.

I suppose the Ouya could be useful for someone whom doesn't want or cant afford a full fledged android device and just wants to play the exclusive games or develop for Android.

but I can't see why if you own a relatively new Android phone with hdmi out you would want an Ouya.

Take a Galaxy S4 with hdmi out and a bluetooth controller and a bluetooth keyboard and mouse.  What you get is a portable mini computer capable of emulation, android games, applications, cellular and internet capabilities.

right, but that's more expensive and far more cumbersome. The Ouya and the tablet I bought are self contained.

That tablet looks seriously cool.

I am interested in the ouya as well, but mostly for mupen64plus ae and other emulators.

So I got my tablet and been fiddling around with it. Very pleased with it for the most part. A full review and thread for it will be forthcoming so I dont interfere with this Ouya thread.

Ok, so they put out a software update and I'm liking the improvements. It now works as it should when it officially launches. The new store looks cool. Realistically, I can see the Ouya acquiring some quirky B-games like Slender and Surgeon Simulator 2013. I'm totally ok with that, those games are sort of my guilty pleasure.

Yes, I probably spent hours playing Supra Mayro Kratt with a friend.

Does the Ouya have access to the google play store?

Not natively. I'm assuming if you install the Google Play .apk you could get somewhere. In fact, I think I'll try that out.

Only some Android phone native apps would be good; but most would be pointless.
I'd only use the NFS and few other games, and probably a couple other standard apps.

NFS?

Well it's official, Ouya is a hit and doing well as a Indie platform. It's not aiming to be your main system, but it's definitely an accompanying console to go with your PS4/Xbox One or maybe Wii U.

ive heard the n64 emu is slightly dodgey, is this true ???  (  mario  64 /  ssb /  lozoot , etc  )
also, can anyone tell me what sonic cd is like on one of these?

Can it Emulate MAME?

I'm still not convinced it's more than good PR.  I'm more in line with the VideoGamer.com review.

The idea and hope it represented I buy into 100%, but the actual execution and result doesn't live up to it for me.

In the end I went for Steam with big picture.  
Most if not all these google apps are on PC, the smaller of which don't make sense to me on a TV.

I ended up buying an Ouya with 2 controllers. I was gonna wait because in the beginning I believed the system to not fully ready but after many software updates I feel confident in owning one.

To make things substantially better, Amazon AppStore can be downloaded from Amazon directly to the Ouya. This has added great hi grade apps, that function properly rather then the sideloaded garbage people are tossing into their poor Ouya's.

I am entirely convinced that Ouya will get better and better, I will be buying the model 2 Ouya upon release too because that will be worth the price still at $100.

I grabbed one and have been messing with it for the past few days. I'm mainly using it as the world's tiniest Mame box, and it does not disappoint. The Neo Geo X and USB Saturn pads work great on it. I haven't had a chance to really dig too much into the actual Ouya software, as the wifi is slow as hell and it was taking forever to download anything. I ended up using a wireless bridge to the Ethernet port and everything is much faster now.

Cool. You need to install XBMC, Flash 11.1, Amazon AppStore, YouTube, FireFox and NetFlix.
Ouya makes a fantastic media center.

When's the V2 improved one coming out?

Quote from: The Uninvited Gremlin on August 07, 2013, 06:19:18 am
Cool. You need to install XBMC, Flash 11.1, Amazon AppStore, YouTube, FireFox and NetFlix.
Ouya makes a fantastic media center.

I've got the Amazon Appstore on there already, I haven't done too much with non-game apps yet, but it's definitely coming.

My list of the best games on Ouya, So far:

Sonic 4 HD
Sonic CD (HD was cancelled in favor of standard)
Rush Bros. HD
Shadowgun HD
Crest of War HD (Beta testing stage)
Gravi HD
Time Robo HD
Flying Car HD (Beta testing stage)
Wraithborne HD
Order & Chaos Online HD
Rose and Time HD
Ittle Dew (not HD but still worth mentioning)
Polarity HD
Wind-Up Knight HD
Flashout 3D HD
Amazing Frog (not HD but still worth mentioning, it's also in Beta)
Flip Riders HD
The Little Crane That Could (not HD but its a fun puzzler)
TowerFall (not HD but still a great game)
BombSquad HD
Monocle Man (not HD but very very fun)
Wilson's Adventure HD
White Water 3d HD
Chrono Blade HD (demo and Beta testing)
Super Robot Space Fight! (not HD but still great)
Rose: Episode 1 (not HD but its a point'n'click which so happens to be my favorite genre)
Striker Soccer Euro 2012 HD
Beast Boxing Turbo HD
Ice Rage HD
You Don't Know Jack (not HD but its the classic multiplayer quiz game)
The Bards Tale HD
Ravensword: Shadowlands HD
Space Sokoban HD
Gravestompers HD
Final Fantasy III HD
Cars and Guns 3d (not HD but still very cool)
Diversion HD

-The below lists are games I tried out from Amazon AppStore-

Games from Amazon AppStore that work well on Ouya:
3D Bloxorz
Escape from the Dead
Mystery Lighthouse
Pocket Legends
UNO & Friends
Rayman Jungle Run
Killer Escape
Stardash
Gunman Clive
Night Whisper Lane
Virtua Tennis Challenge
Riptide GP2
TNA Impact


Games from Amazon AppStore that don't work well or at all:
Contact Killer: Zombies
Critical Strike Portable
Die Hard
Drift Mania Championship 2
Gun Zombie: Hell Gate
Modern Combat 4: Zero Hour (its not controller functional but hopefully a Ouya version will exist in the future)
Real Soccer 2013
Soldier of Fortune
Super Monkey Ball 2: Sakura Edition

I'm hopefully getting an Ouya in a few days time, and while I appreciate your post there for recommended games, I'm confused as to the HD vs non-HD games.

Doesn't the Ouya ONLY output HDMI, meaning 720p at the bare minimum? How you have a game thats 720p and not considered HD? or are these games like  heavily upscaled 480p or something?

Also, what about emulators? I'm counting on the Ouya to have the power to be a great emulator machine - if the emulators for it are any good to begin with though.

I consider Non-3D (or upscaled, the worst up scaled is "The Amazing Frog") graphic based games Non-HD. And I have honestly never used any of the emulators but I have heard they are great!

Ouya actually only broadcasts 1080p (on 1080p tv's) but can degrade its output to function on a 720p TV.

If a GGPO app ever gets made for Ouya, I can imagine the retro fighting game community eating this up

That would be cool, only the future will tell though. :)

So I've had mine for a little while now and am really mixed on it. I find I accidentally leave it on all the friggin time.

Most of the emulators aren't any better than my JXD Tablet - in fact, they appear to be exactly the same. The N64 and PS1 emulator is better than on original Xbox, but nowhere near as smooth as I was hoping for.

I'm unusually fond of the controller though. I thought I'd hate it, but for games that really use it well, it's excellent. I just can't get over the fact that throughout the entire process nobody thought to include Start and Select buttons. That seems like such a major blunder that should have been addressed in the earliest phases of design. No start button means devs assign start to the one of the stick clicks, or not at all.

I've been able to use other controllers, but the ouya guide button means the ouya controller can't be taken out of the picture entirely.

Overall, I think the Ouya is problematic but it does do early system emulation well and a few of its own games like DubWars and RushBros. make it promising.

But it seems VERY beta. The emulators need to be more optimized for Ouya specifically. The VLC player app is great, but why can't I do ANYTHING with it? no options, nothing.

Will they even update existing emulators? I mean, will I have to redownload them? It seems so odd they are so haphazardly thrown onto the ouya.

Quote from: satoshi_matrix on August 18, 2013, 11:26:18 pmI find I accidentally leave it on all the friggin time.

I would guess that's the "system turning itself back on" -bug/feature instead. Some TVs send signals through HDMI that wakes the Ouya up when it's in sleep mode (which is what it is if you turn it off by pressing Y in the main menu and choosing the system to turn off. To really turn the system off, press and hold down the power button on the system for a while. Another solution was posted here (http://ouyaboards.com/ouya-support-troubleshooting/840-ouya-turns-itself-back-2.html#post6129): Go to MANAGE > SYSTEM > ADVANCED

Scroll down and select "Developer options". When you enter developer options, at the very top right across from "developer options." Make sure "ON" is selected and not "OFF," so you can change settings in this menu. Now go down to the third option. It should be "STAY AWAKE." Now uncheck this box.

QuoteI just can't get over the fact that throughout the entire process nobody thought to include Start and Select buttons. That seems like such a major blunder that should have been addressed in the earliest phases of design. No start button means devs assign start to the one of the stick clicks, or not at all.

I've seen a few games use the Ouya Guide button as the Start button, bringing you to menus in-game and such. Seems to work fine.

QuoteWill they even update existing emulators? I mean, will I have to redownload them? It seems so odd they are so haphazardly thrown onto the ouya.

Whenever an application you downloaded through the Discover menu gets updated, you can update it directly from the Play menu. In fact, the application won't even launch until it's been updated. The icon also has a small mark on the upper-right corner to let you know there's an update for it.

Well the most recent update caused my Ouya to stop producing sounds. :/

Do they not even test these things??

L___E___T, Thankfully the sent a minor repair that fixed it but yea checking for errors should be done more smoothly.

Glad you got that fixed.  I watched Satoshi's I tro to the Ouya last night, I have to admit it's made me want one slightly.

I fully recommend Ouya, it's progressively getting better as days go by.

More Ouya stuff will be coming soon, but here's a spoiler report for the other emulators:

Genesis - Most work well, although the sound is that of the model 2's. No slowdown, will read any region roms but I have encountered some isolated problems with specific games. Completely free.

GameBoy/GameBoy Color - works extremely well, but does not emulate any Super GameBoy functionality at all, so games like Donkey Kong '94 are stuck in GBC mode only. Also optionally supports GBA mode, so Zelda Oracles, Shantae and a few others benefit from the late generation hardware boost of the GBA. Along with the NES emulator, this one is good enough to warrent an Ouya purchase on its own. It's also completely free.

GameBoy Advance - Also works extremely well. GBA games run at full speed, including intensely pseudo 3D games like Star Wars Flight of the Falcon or any of the system's 3D racers, FPS, etc. Sound emulation is near perfect. Golden Sun looks and sounds absolutely amazing on a 50" HDTV. I have encountered slight sound hiccups in some games (MOTHER 3 is the worse offender) but overall this is again an amazing effort. Free.

Neo-Geo Pocket Color - The NGPC never gets its dues, so I was presently surprised someone took the time to write an Ouya emulator for it, and what do you know, they did a good job. Games look and sound just like they should, but the emulator does not produce any voice samples as of yet. This is a minor issue as only a handful of games used voice clips, but it does make the Metal Slug games especially a little bit less impressive with the announcer doesn't proclaim "Heavy Machinegun!" as you take dudes out. Free, but needs voice clips to be flawless.



N64 - A mixed bag. Definitely better than what the Original Xbox can do, but this one seems very beta-y. There are three graphics cores included, which all work better or worse depending on the rom you try. Some games won't boot with any of the cores, including Pokemon Puzzle League and Doom 64. On a positive note, Super Mario 64 Star Road works, but there's slight slowdown. Right now this emulator is novel, but its far from perfect. It's free.

PS1 - Not happy with this one at all. You need to pay to use this, supply your own BIOS file, and even after all that, every game I've tried has problems. The UI absolutely sucks, there is lots of sound popping, and sometimes the sound will cut out all together, like you muted your tv. Really annoying. I thought this would handle less demanding games like Castlevania Symphony of the Night or Lunar Silver Star Story Complete better than the 3D titles, but it doesn't seem to make a difference. NOT worth spending any money on until it's massively updated. Right now it's a pile of crap.

NDS - I haven't tried this yet, but I can't imagine it'll be very strong.

Also haven't tried NeoGeo, PC Engine, C64 or any others I haven't mentioned yet.

I recommend installing DraStic NDS emulator and mapping the controller. It's available in a simple google search, and functions much nicer then the official OUYA NDS emulator.

hey btw, shoot me a pm with skype info. I wanna chat with you on doing sideloading and such on ouya.

Sideloading is a piece of cake. Put apk files on your usb drive on your computer, download a file manager on the Ouya and use it to install apks. Easy.

which do you recommend?

Also what sideloaded games/apps would you recommend? One game I'd love to get working if at all possible on Ouya is Doom and Doom 2. Is Brutal Doom possible?

Ouya has an official file manager free, FilePwn in the Discover shop. Also most APK files you can download directly on the Ouya via the web browser.

Id like to know about Doom myself. Retroarch supports it but the controls leave something to be desired.

I haven't done a lot of sideloading, but I have installed Mame4Droid and it's pretty swanky.

I recently switched out the original OUYA case for a 3D printed one designed by Makerbot. :)
It looks awesome!



On a sidenote OUYA now supports GameFly for AAA titles through cloud streaming. ;)

Thread from the dead...

But that 3D printed case looks awesome!  :o

Ouya are being sold to Razr.  So, that was an interesting few years then.

That's still a rumor (unless you've got inside info ;)).  They're definitely looking to sell, though.

Well the rumor about Razer buying OUYA was true, they wanted to software and library of games for their own console.

Yup, I just saw another official announcement today - it's a done deal.  I still don't really get it, but some people love it, so yay for them I guess :bub:

They are shutting down the OUYA after June, 2016. They will be offering deep discounts to OUYA gamers because they have a list of those who created OUYA accounts before June 2015.

Eagerly anticipating Ouya's showings in the "top 10 [strangest/worst/most infamous] consoles of the 2010s" videos next decade.

It's possible but honestly OUYA was built to get a test market so that Julie Urman could sell a program to a true console company. It's a strategy for testing the idea and demonstrating its interest.

The Ouya was honestly pitiful. I got rid of mine for two reasons. First, the front end was always buggy. Sometimes not loading the store correctly, taking forever to start a game, etc. Second - and the big reason - was the awful input lag. It seemed to be both a software and hardware issue. The controllers that came with the thing had about half a second of lag. Using a PS3 controller improved it somewhat but the lag was still unbearable.

In the end, I got suckered in by the promise of indie games on an inexpensive device. And I'm sure many others were too.