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Misc. => Other Gaming => Topic started by: Bebop on July 17, 2017, 12:17:44 AM



Title: Let's talk about clone systems with HDMI
Post by: Bebop on July 17, 2017, 12:17:44 AM
What's clone system should you buy?

Hyperkin RetroN 1 HD or Retro-Bit RES+?

I think i go for that one that have best looking picture, and i think the Hyperkin RetroN 1 HD looks way better then Retro-Bit RES+ but is only my personal taste.

Hyperkin RetroN 1 HD :mario:

(http://i.imgur.com/0WYk6rp.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/0erhuCA.jpg)

Retro-Bit RES+ :mario:

(http://i.imgur.com/whTHgn9.jpg)



Title: Re: Let's talk about clone system
Post by: NintendoKing on July 17, 2017, 12:41:10 AM
Well the Hyperkin also looks fantastic design-wise! So if it has the better picture and sound then it's perfect.


Title: Re: Let's talk about clone system
Post by: Bebop on July 17, 2017, 01:15:25 AM
Well the Hyperkin also looks fantastic design-wise! So if it has the better picture and sound then it's perfect.


What i got information about is that RetroN HD in ntsc mode plays in 60hz and in pal 50hz and that is what i need, its still little information on RES+

Post Merge: July 17, 2017, 01:34:10 AM
This is a Hamy 8-Bit HD with hdmi but is kinda ugly and it dont play pal only ntsc and no switch for 4:3/16:9

(http://i.imgur.com/bLbwCOk.jpg)


Title: Re: Let's talk about clone systems with HDMI
Post by: NintendoKing on July 17, 2017, 02:09:42 AM
Hyperkin is the clear winner for design, as it's wonderful. I sort of want one for the HD, maybe you could split it into the Classic Edition clone shell, as that would be wicked cool.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PlNT6498slw
Edit- I definitely like it, especially after that review which really made it look quality.


Title: Re: Let's talk about clone systems with HDMI
Post by: Great Hierophant on July 17, 2017, 03:19:15 AM
Columbus Circle is back with a combo Famicom/Super Famicom HDMI clone : http://www.ebay.com/itm/FC-COMBO-HDMI-FC-SFC-compatible-machine-game-With-Tracking-Japan-F-S-/162530821570


Title: Re: Let's talk about clone systems with HDMI
Post by: Bebop on July 17, 2017, 09:51:11 AM
The Uninvited Gremlin: Yea a good review i am thinking to order one :)


Post Merge: July 17, 2017, 09:54:35 AM

Great Hierophant: Cool but little bit too expensive but it would be awsome to play snes game thru hdmi :)


Title: Re: Let's talk about clone systems with HDMI
Post by: Great Hierophant on July 17, 2017, 12:35:27 PM
Here is a different view of the RetroN 1 HD : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irGWXO9dFoY&t=704s


Title: Re: Let's talk about clone systems with HDMI
Post by: Bebop on July 18, 2017, 09:22:00 PM
thank very informative but still interested in this console because it plays in 60hz :)


Title: Re: Let's talk about clone systems with HDMI
Post by: Great Hierophant on July 19, 2017, 05:09:57 AM
To answer the OP's original question, you should buy none of these, they are garbage.  Instead, save up and get a RetroUSB AVS or Analogue Nt Mini.  Those are the only two HDMI consoles of Nintendo 8-bit hardware worth a damn.


Title: Re: Let's talk about clone systems with HDMI
Post by: L___E___T on July 19, 2017, 08:38:17 AM
 
 
 
 
From watching various reviews I'd also say the AVS is the way to go.  All these other options are a false economy to me, especially the Hyperkin Retron that pretends to play carts.


Title: Re: Let's talk about clone systems with HDMI
Post by: NintendoKing on July 19, 2017, 12:52:53 PM
AVS is cool because it uses FPGA, so it's accurate in its NES functionality. I also like that they chose to give it the name of the original prototype Nintendo. That was also called the AVS, and the design is similar, right down to the Famicom cartridge port.


Title: Re: Let's talk about clone systems with HDMI
Post by: P on July 19, 2017, 01:58:20 PM
Some nitpicking, but it uses FPGA so it could potentially be super accurate (much more than an emulator).
Analogue NT Mini (also FPGA) seems to be much more capable than AVS, and allows ROM loading from SD (supports "over 200 mappers"), but the price tag isn't nice.


Title: Re: Let's talk about clone systems with HDMI
Post by: Bebop on July 23, 2017, 05:28:05 PM
Yea sadly the nt mini is super expensive but as they say, you get what your paid for.


Title: Re: Let's talk about clone systems with HDMI
Post by: XC-3730C on August 05, 2017, 06:06:45 PM
I considered the Hyperkin HD, but after seeing a YouTube video on it, I have concluded that it doesn't seem to accurately reproduce the same sound quality as a real NES/Famicom.

I am considering one of those DIY Famicom systems, since it supports VGA and RGB, but I haven't seen anyone really do a good review on it, nor anyone make a shell for it.


Title: Re: Let's talk about clone systems with HDMI
Post by: L___E___T on August 05, 2017, 09:01:04 PM
 
 
 
 
I honestly think if you can get one, that a modded Famicom Mini is a really good choice.

Post Merge: August 07, 2017, 06:06:53 PM

 
 
 
Just stumbled across this - looks interesting, I'll watch the video in full later:

https://youtu.be/OKxamK2WwdM


Title: Re: Let's talk about clone systems with HDMI
Post by: Bebop on August 02, 2018, 01:28:55 AM
Have now order this ;D Super Nintendo/Super Famicom 1:1 Hdmi clone that plays original Snes carts.
Its a switch for NTSC or PAL and you can change the aspect ratio from 4:3/16:9.
From another review they say its works with a Everdrive.

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yU84ZicQ-M&t=488s
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQLs8q5a4dU

(https://i.imgur.com/F1lZFnD.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/roluqbe.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/H6Uk8MN.jpg)


Title: Re: Let's talk about clone systems with HDMI
Post by: L___E___T on August 05, 2018, 06:48:31 PM
 
 
 
 
If it can do 4:3 thatís a huge plus for me - Iíd be interested in finding more out about it, do you have a direct link to buy from?


Title: Re: Let's talk about clone systems with HDMI
Post by: Retrospectives on August 06, 2018, 08:38:08 AM
Available from here:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/HDMI-Retro-TV-Video-Game-Console-For-Snes-Game-Cartridges-with-2-Wireless-1-Wired-Gamepads/32860954129.html?spm=2114.13010708.0.0.6f304c4dayxNyK


Title: Re: Let's talk about clone systems with HDMI
Post by: Bebop on August 09, 2018, 04:41:27 PM
Hope its good, have order some logos and stickers for it, thinking to change the color on the controller buttons if its the same size as original :)


Title: Re: Let's talk about clone systems with HDMI
Post by: L___E___T on August 09, 2018, 05:14:16 PM
 
 
 
 
I really appreciate the link - but itís the same price as a SNES mini, so I passed for now.  Maybe in the future for me, but let us know how it runs!  If it genuinely plays all games, with good picture (i.e. pixels tripled to 720P) then great!


Title: Re: Let's talk about clone systems with HDMI
Post by: Bebop on August 10, 2018, 10:27:18 AM
Yepp i can write little about it when i received it, i thinking to order a chinese sd2snes and a super ever drive for it.

Post Merge: August 10, 2018, 10:37:49 AM
I bought it now because all the other seller that sold it before have stopped selling it, i dont know why but i take it like the they have stopped making it so i bought it now :)


Title: Re: Let's talk about clone systems with HDMI
Post by: L___E___T on August 10, 2018, 11:05:02 AM
 
 
 
 
Well done - looking forward to the impressions :bub:


Title: Re: Let's talk about clone systems with HDMI
Post by: Bebop on September 08, 2018, 01:54:18 AM
Hi got my system but still on to customization it, Do somebody knows if this logo are removable on a Super Famicom/EU Super Nintendo console???

(https://i.imgur.com/FTcfQUv.png)

Post Merge: September 08, 2018, 06:18:41 AM
I was surprised how good i felt after o got it, picture looks good(not as god as the snes classic) but good enough for me and the sounds sounds good.

The only bad i think is that its some sort of Input lag in the wireless controller, i am not not sure about it but it felt different when i use the wired controller.
The other thing is that is missing logos and looks naked ;D but i am on to fix that ;D
I am not a pro reviewer but i was really satisfied whit this one.
Next month i am gonna order a Snes2sd and the 8bitdo sn30 and receiver for it ;D
Yea one thing i am gonna order to is this so you dont gonna wear out the micro usb charing port:
(https://i.imgur.com/ta10AOg.png)


Teardown  ;D

(https://i.imgur.com/1u2QhAD.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/akbBtjF.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/Z3IuSmf.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vMkJ2g3.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/sassyR1.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/h9j6NF4.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vlkFzwu.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/IGNaLw7.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/7lHUYXo.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vHuCLBQ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/FCSxwTC.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/PmtCNmc.jpg)

Post Merge: September 08, 2018, 12:32:44 PM
Maybe its not look to much, but damn it works great ;D


Title: Re: Let's talk about clone systems with HDMI
Post by: L___E___T on September 08, 2018, 08:36:44 PM
 
 
 
 
How's the picture quality - can you show us some tests?  Also, it says it plays NES, GBC and SEGA games - is that true?  Cart slot looks SNES only...

Thanks for the teardown, brave to take it apart but very nice to see, and very generous of you to take the time!

Lastly - number 5 on the warnings on back of box is pretty chilling right :)


Title: Re: Let's talk about clone systems with HDMI
Post by: MaxXimus on September 09, 2018, 11:44:46 AM
I believe they are talking about the life of the person using the console. Not the console itself. I donít know lol. I know in Canada there are warning to take breaks every 30 minutes or so so as not to damage your eyes or cause arthritis and such...


Title: Re: Let's talk about clone systems with HDMI
Post by: L___E___T on September 09, 2018, 11:58:45 AM
 
 
 
 
Yes that's why I like it - the thought of the player as "the host" just sounded a bit Stephen King :D


Title: Re: Let's talk about clone systems with HDMI
Post by: L___E___T on September 09, 2018, 12:07:56 PM
 
 
 
 
It does have a separate heat warning about the transformer that seems a bit worrying, but I don't see how this could generate that much heat to be honest.


Title: Re: Let's talk about clone systems with HDMI
Post by: Retrospectives on September 09, 2018, 01:54:51 PM

 
 
 
How's the picture quality - can you show us some tests?  Also, it says it plays NES, GBC and SEGA games - is that true?  Cart slot looks SNES only...

Thanks for the teardown, brave to take it apart but very nice to see, and very generous of you to take the time!

Lastly - number 5 on the warnings on back of box is pretty chilling right :)


Found a good review. Actually many of these clone system since early day of retro duo and similar using TCT chipset or similar and this particular system is basically same thing as many other clone system with HDMI. The review is more or less same thing as this console, only difference might be case design and some minor differences component. But overall here is a good comparsion to real SFC:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xvmkipj6g8


Title: Re: Let's talk about clone systems with HDMI
Post by: Bebop on September 09, 2018, 05:34:59 PM
The picture quality is the same as the Super Retro Trio Plus, sadly i have no screen capture device but record some video later when have time with my phone.
It dont play NES, GBC and SEGA without any converter cart and actually the multi cart that was included are only NES games and with repeats :(

Regular SNES carts play fine and and people say its works with a SD2SNES.

This system have a working switch for pal/ntsc 50/60hz, it also have a switch for 4:3/16:9.

It seems have problem with the wireless controller because sometimes when i press the button its not registrate and i die in the game :( and the wireless controller have noticeable input lag now when i have play on it more, the problem disappear when i play with the wired controller.

It dont feel its get any warm but number 5 was little bit funny :)

I have not a 16 bit hd gamerz tek as in the video in the post over me but i can not hear that the audio on this are as bad as on the gamerz tek.






Post Merge: September 09, 2018, 06:13:56 PM
The housing/shell feels very well built and i like they put in the cartridge lock function even if its useless function and they could have easily skip that.

I like this clone because its the first time i see a 1:1 copy of the sfc/eu snes.
A region switch so i can play imports and a switch for 4:3/16:9 is great to have.

Personally i am very satisfied with it and are gonna play much on it :redcart: :mario: :pow: :star: :help:...even if i have snes clasic mini  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Let's talk about clone systems with HDMI
Post by: Retrospectives on September 09, 2018, 09:54:21 PM
I suppose for the price point and the fact you play SFC cartridges is very very fair enough to say is an OK system. Not the best, but at same time not the most expensive. I am not having HDMI tv as main play tv, but if compare picture quality to just a few year ago, is vastly improved. I am not "purist" when it come to picture/sound quality though. So for the price being, I would say it looks and seem like a fair system overall!


Title: Re: Let's talk about clone systems with HDMI
Post by: Bebop on September 10, 2018, 11:22:44 AM
Yea same for me, i am not a "purist" either and like some of these chinese cheap clone systems even if they have some flaws ;D


Title: Re: Let's talk about clone systems with HDMI
Post by: Bebop on September 10, 2018, 02:58:39 PM
Not the best picture but i took it fast from a crappy samsung note 2 on 100" projector screen :)
I take better picture later with a better camera on a led screen :)

(https://i.imgur.com/PqS9ozF.jpg)

Post Merge: September 10, 2018, 03:02:18 PM
Famicom logo on ;D

(https://i.imgur.com/DxB2HfN.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qhZVZ96.jpg)


Title: Re: Let's talk about clone systems with HDMI
Post by: Bebop on September 10, 2018, 06:16:44 PM
Thanks :) :) :)

Post Merge: September 11, 2018, 12:12:28 PM
Branding logo on, the logo are not 100% accurate but good enough :)

(https://i.imgur.com/tHUZY3M.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/gU0f0w2.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/4cIPIVW.jpg)


Title: Re: Let's talk about clone systems with HDMI
Post by: Bebop on September 12, 2018, 12:00:49 AM
Thanks :) yea it ended up pretty good i think :)