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Family Computer => Famicom / Disk System => Topic started by: on December 31, 1969, 04:00:00 pm

Poll
Question: Do you prefer the AV Famicom or the original (RF) Famicom?
Option 1: Original Famicom
Option 2: AV Famicom
Option 3: Twin Fami
Title: RF Fami or AV Fami?
Post by: boye on June 03, 2019, 06:45:19 pm
I honestly prefer the RF Fami.
Title: Re: RF Fami or AV Fami?
Post by: Ghegs on June 03, 2019, 07:06:17 pm
AV Fami all the way. The original is ugly (unpopular opinion, I'm sure) and the hard-wired controllers...come on now.
Title: Re: RF Fami or AV Fami?
Post by: boye on June 03, 2019, 08:09:49 pm
Quote from: Ghegs on June 03, 2019, 07:06:17 pm
The original is ugly (unpopular opinion, I'm sure)

With an opinion like that, you should brace for a flame war.
Also, I use a CRT with my Fami, which masks some of the imperfections of RF video, Also, the controllers are easily replaceable despite being hard-wired.
Title: Re: RF Fami or AV Fami?
Post by: Jedi Master Baiter on June 03, 2019, 08:51:16 pm
I just don't understand how anyone can enjoy a game with a cord sticking out of the side of the gamepad. :gamer:
Title: Re: RF Fami or AV Fami?
Post by: FAMICOM_87 on June 03, 2019, 10:52:07 pm
I like more the original design :) 
Title: Re: RF Fami or AV Fami?
Post by: FAMICOM_87 on June 04, 2019, 03:33:06 am
Quote from: togemet2 on June 03, 2019, 11:27:19 pm
Quote from: FAMICOM_87 on June 03, 2019, 10:52:07 pm
I like more the original design :)  


I agree. I like the original design much more than the AV version.

The AV Famicom looks a little too bland for me. If I had to choose my favourite Famicom though, it'd probably be the Sharp Twin Famicom.
Those are awesome. You get the best of both worlds thanks to it having a built in disk drive.  :bub:


I think that the original famicom + disk system on the bottom still looks much sexier  ;D then twin famicom aether of  the 2 revisions .
Title: Re: RF Fami or AV Fami?
Post by: P on June 04, 2019, 09:56:31 am
Original all the way. Both design-wise and feature-wise.
(no microphone = not good enough)
And yeah AV Famicom and top-loader NES looks too bland. The dogbone controllers are not too bad though.

The only pros with the AV Famicom is that it has stock AV and (incomplete) NES controller sockets. If one mods it to add a microphone and all four missing output ports in the controller sockets however, it would be superior feature-wise.
Title: Re: RF Fami or AV Fami?
Post by: adori_12 on June 04, 2019, 10:16:46 am
Definitely Original Famicom by far. Beautifully designed, even more when you realize how odd an AV Famicom looks on top of a Disk System. Oh, and those round controllers that you can fit on the console's slots make the original model look so cute :D
Not hating on the AV Fami, but there's something on it that makes it look cheap for me, I'm not sure what is it.
Title: Re: RF Fami or AV Fami?
Post by: boye on June 04, 2019, 11:29:17 am
I've added the Sharp Twin Famicom to the poll.
Quote from: Jedi QuestMaster on June 03, 2019, 08:51:16 pm
I just don't understand how anyone can enjoy a game with a cord sticking out of the side of the gamepad. :gamer:

With the way I hold the Fami/NES controller, the wire coming out the side is hardly a problem.
Title: Re: RF Fami or AV Fami?
Post by: Ghegs on June 04, 2019, 12:13:53 pm
Quote from: boye on June 03, 2019, 08:09:49 pm
Quote from: Ghegs on June 03, 2019, 07:06:17 pm
The original is ugly (unpopular opinion, I'm sure)

With an opinion like that, you should brace for a flame war.
Also, I use a CRT with my Fami, which masks some of the imperfections of RF video, Also, the controllers are easily replaceable despite being hard-wired.


I use a CRT with my RGB-modded AV Famicom because RF is horrible and should be shunned.
Title: Re: RF Fami or AV Fami?
Post by: boye on June 04, 2019, 12:52:26 pm
Sorry for sounding purist-y, but I feel that hooking up a RF Fami to a CRT gives the most authentic experience.
Title: Re: RF Fami or AV Fami?
Post by: R_Leo_1 on June 04, 2019, 02:52:15 pm
I prefer the design of the original RF Famicom, but I greatly prefer the AV out on the AV model.
Title: Re: RF Fami or AV Fami?
Post by: Jedi Master Baiter on June 04, 2019, 06:44:34 pm
Quote from: Ghegs on June 04, 2019, 12:13:53 pmI use a CRT with my RGB-modded AV Famicom because RF is horrible and should be shunned.

I think both RF and RGB mods look bad. ;D One is too muddy and the other too crisp. AV composite is just right. ;)
Title: Re: RF Fami or AV Fami?
Post by: FAMICOM_87 on June 04, 2019, 06:47:55 pm
Quote from: Jedi QuestMaster on June 04, 2019, 06:44:34 pm
Quote from: Ghegs on June 04, 2019, 12:13:53 pmI use a CRT with my RGB-modded AV Famicom because RF is horrible and should be shunned.

I think both RF and RGB mods look bad. ;D One is too muddy and the other too crisp. AV composite is just right. ;)


vertical lines on RGB are perfect like horizontal ones, and on AV/RF only horizontal are perfect, and verticals are fuzzy , so RGB I think is better, and if you fell it too sharp, you  can  set the sharpness on low from the TV set
Title: Re: RF Fami or AV Fami?
Post by: schnuth on June 04, 2019, 07:28:58 pm
The Twin Fami was my first Fami. So I only have eyes for her. :)

Post Merge: June 04, 2019, 07:29:01 pm

The Twin Fami was my first Fami. So I only have eyes for her. :)
Title: Re: RF Fami or AV Fami?
Post by: senseiman on June 04, 2019, 08:23:07 pm
I am split on this.

From an aesthetic and nostalgia point of view the red and white Famicom is the only way to go.  It just looks so great.

From a practical point of view though the AV Famicom is hard to beat.  Having the controller wires come out the front rather than the back is a huge plus, and most modern TVs don't accept RF (or at least the one in my living room doesn't) so its a lot easier.

I have both and the AV Famicom is the primary one for use, though I still have an old school TV that I specifically keep for use with my RF Famicom (and other 80s consoles that use it).
Title: Re: RF Fami or AV Fami?
Post by: Jedi Master Baiter on June 04, 2019, 10:51:01 pm
Quote from: FAMICOM_87 on June 04, 2019, 06:47:55 pmvertical lines on RGB are perfect like horizontal ones, and on AV/RF only horizontal are perfect, and verticals are fuzzy , so RGB I think is better, and if you fell it too sharp, you  can  set the sharpness on low from the TV set

Well as long as it's on a CRT screen, otherwise there's no pixel bleed! ;D Gotta love that blending of colors. (https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/anwgxf/here_is_an_example_of_old_graphics_on_crt_vs/)
Title: Re: RF Fami or AV Fami?
Post by: P on June 05, 2019, 01:51:33 am
The cable coming out from the side of the original controllers is not a problem. It looked uncomfortable compared to NES controllers first time I used it I think, but it is something you get used to right away. The cable naturally slips in between your fingers.

The short cables coming out of the back of the Famicom is more of a problem though. RF only is another.
Title: Re: RF Fami or AV Fami?
Post by: Pikkon on June 05, 2019, 02:59:42 am
I own both but I use my Av Fami all the time,plus I have it hooked up my 1983 Nec crt which looks awesome.
Title: Re: RF Fami or AV Fami?
Post by: L___E___T on June 05, 2019, 03:26:11 am
 



Original for looks, AV Fami for playing.

I also don't mind the side cable and find the original fami pad the nicest to play with actually, but as a rule I play with NES pads on the AV Fami.  I do have a couple of original controllers with a NES / AV Fami plug. 
So that's my preferred option - original controller, with the AV Famicom.  I find the rounded corners and button placement better than on the AV Famicom's dogbone controller.   Those are my least preferred option.

I can't understand playing in RF myself.  I used to insist on composite but an RGB modded AV Famicom on a PVM is a beautiful sight to behold.  I would definitely recommend trying it even if you're an RF diehard.
Title: Re: RF Fami or AV Fami?
Post by: Pikkon on June 05, 2019, 04:17:59 am
While I don't have a rgb modded av fami I have my pi 3 hooked up to my crt via scart and rgb on the fami is crazy sharp.

Title: Re: RF Fami or AV Fami?
Post by: boye on June 07, 2019, 04:58:19 pm
Even though I don't have one yet, I believe the Twin Fami AN-505 is the definitive Famicom. Built-in Disk System, turbo controllers, a sleek design, Controller 2 mic, AV out, this is the definitive Famicom. If only I could change my vote...
Title: Re: RF Fami or AV Fami?
Post by: FAMICOM_87 on June 07, 2019, 11:30:31 pm
you should add SHARP Famicom Titler to the list too  ;D
Title: Re: RF Fami or AV Fami?
Post by: boye on June 08, 2019, 04:38:08 pm
I wonder if someone on the forums would like to make a Famicom tier list.
Title: Re: RF Fami or AV Fami?
Post by: boye on June 20, 2019, 09:33:41 am
Quote from: L___E___T on June 05, 2019, 03:26:11 am
Original for looks, AV Fami for playing.

Why not the Twin Famicom?
Title: Re: RF Fami or AV Fami?
Post by: L___E___T on June 21, 2019, 02:43:00 am
 



I don't own a Twin fami but do like the Orange one.
Title: Re: RF Fami or AV Fami?
Post by: boye on June 21, 2019, 04:16:57 pm
It's actually red.  :)
Title: Re: RF Fami or AV Fami?
Post by: Yelir on June 21, 2019, 08:55:23 pm
You can both be wrong. I actually think it's closer to a coral/salmon color depending on sunfade. ;D
Title: Re: RF Fami or AV Fami?
Post by: L___E___T on June 22, 2019, 02:04:16 am
 

I mean this one specifically, it's pretty orange.  An easier way of saying I don't mean the regular red Twins.

(http://images.nintendolife.com/news/2013/05/this_custom_twin_famicom_is_the_stuff_hardware_dreams_are_made_of/attachment/3/original.jpg)
Title: Re: RF Fami or AV Fami?
Post by: Pikkon on June 22, 2019, 02:15:23 am
That's a custom painted one if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: RF Fami or AV Fami?
Post by: L___E___T on June 22, 2019, 10:17:23 am
 



Yes it is, my favourite Twin model.
Title: Re: RF Fami or AV Fami?
Post by: boye on June 23, 2019, 06:44:22 pm
Yep, it's custom-painted.
Title: Re: RF Fami or AV Fami?
Post by: FAMICOM_87 on June 24, 2019, 04:12:38 am
Shinyyy  :star:  :bub:  8)  :o
Title: Re: RF Fami or AV Fami?
Post by: L___E___T on June 24, 2019, 06:19:55 am
  

It is still orange.  That custom is the specific unit I was referring to "the orange one" - but the 505 is still not exactly red:

(https://stopxwhispering.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/sharp-twin-famicom-an-505-controllers.jpg)

(https://stopxwhispering.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/four-different-twin-famicom-systems.jpg)
Title: Re: RF Fami or AV Fami?
Post by: zxin on July 05, 2019, 10:14:33 pm
Twin Famicoms are totally sweet, but I've always only had eyes on the original. It has a certain allure, no?
Title: Re: RF Fami or AV Fami?
Post by: Omarinco on January 10, 2020, 03:32:26 pm
Whaaaat? Twin Fami has the least votes?
Title: Re: RF Fami or AV Fami?
Post by: CloudGamerX on January 15, 2020, 01:21:35 pm
I feel each have their Pros and Cons.

OG Famicom
Pros:
- Non-FF Famicoms have perfect audio balancing
- Cheapest of the trio
- Eject Leaver, for more fun

Cons:
- FF Famicoms have some audio issues
- RF Only
- Easier RGB Mods require you remove the eject leaver

AV Famicom
Pros:
- AV Multiout, like the SNES, N64, and GC
- NES Controller ports
- Easiest to RGB mod

Cons:
- Audio balancing ain't right
- No Zapper support, unless modded in
- Little more expensive than OG Famicoms

Sharp Twin Famicom
Pros:
- AV Out jacks
- FDS built-In
- Longer controller chords (Turbo Twin Only)

Cons:
- Wired-In controllers
- Visible jailbars in the video output
- Audio is muffled
- The most expensive of the three options.