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Misc. => Other Gaming => Topic started by: Paul-FC on November 18, 2008, 06:47:02 pm

Title: Super Mario 3........Special? (HKO)
Post by: Paul-FC on November 18, 2008, 06:47:02 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNTkneNvp8U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNTkneNvp8U)
its pretty much Mario 3 for the GBC :o
here's more info
http://www.bripro.com/low/obscure/index.php?page=hko_sm3s (http://www.bripro.com/low/obscure/index.php?page=hko_sm3s)
too bad the ROM is broken  ::)
Title: Re: Super Mario 3........Special? (HKO)
Post by: manuel on November 18, 2008, 08:55:21 pm
hmm... basically the idea is nice, but with a broken ROM you can't see anything about the game.  :-\
Title: Re: Super Mario 3........Special? (HKO)
Post by: FamicomFreak on November 18, 2008, 09:14:55 pm
Looks kewl but I wonder if it's a real game or just failed homebrew.
Title: Re: Super Mario 3........Special? (HKO)
Post by: manuel on November 18, 2008, 10:10:19 pm
Read the page in the second link above.

It seems to be a full game, but is very sloppy.

The cart looks nice.
Title: Re: Super Mario 3........Special? (HKO)
Post by: FamicomFreak on November 18, 2008, 10:39:47 pm
Ahhhh I totally forgot to look at that link. That's one unique cart!
Title: Re: Super Mario 3........Special? (HKO)
Post by: UglyJoe on November 19, 2008, 04:26:08 am
The ROM isn't broken, it just uses some pirate mapper that emulators don't (or didn't -- the article is from 2005) support.  Plus, he offers a patch that will make it work.
Title: Re: Super Mario 3........Special? (HKO)
Post by: manuel on November 19, 2008, 05:34:22 am
I meant the youtube video.

In the video you can't see anything interesting at all. It ends with a Windows error message.  :D
Title: Re: Super Mario 3........Special? (HKO)
Post by: Paul-FC on November 19, 2008, 07:44:39 am
Quote from: manuel on November 19, 2008, 05:34:22 am
In the video you can't see anything interesting at all. It ends with a Windows error message.  :D

well the intro was kinda interesting lol


Quote from: UglyJoe on November 19, 2008, 04:26:08 am
Plus, he offers a patch that will make it work.

yeah but nobody knows how it works....
Title: Re: Super Mario 3........Special? (HKO)
Post by: UglyJoe on November 19, 2008, 09:30:10 pm
Ah, I see.  The rom that's floating around the internet is not the same rom that the guy who made patch has (he used his own dumper to get the rom).  His patch does seem to make sense, but some of the offsets are wrong.  I might be able to get it working...
Title: Re: Super Mario 3........Special? (HKO)
Post by: Paul-FC on November 20, 2008, 07:44:25 am
Quote from: UglyJoe on November 19, 2008, 09:30:10 pm
I might be able to get it working...

please try dude ;)
theres a bunch of ppl who want to get ROM working
Title: Re: Super Mario 3........Special? (HKO)
Post by: UglyJoe on November 23, 2008, 05:07:52 pm
I got it to partially work.  The levels load, but the sprites don't.  You can move around the level and everything and get killed by the enemies, but mario and the goombas and the koopa troopas are invisible.

edit: upon further investigation, it's much worse than that.  The graphics get corrupted if you make the screen move vertically...
Title: Re: Super Mario 3........Special? (HKO)
Post by: Paul-FC on November 23, 2008, 05:21:17 pm
Quote from: UglyJoe on November 23, 2008, 05:07:52 pm
I got it to partially work.  The levels load, but the sprites don't.  You can move around the level and everything and get killed by the enemies, but mario and the goombas and the koopa troopas are invisible.

edit: upon further investigation, it's much worse than that.  The graphics get corrupted if you make the screen move vertically...

can you give me the rom that you got  it to partially work?
Title: Re: Super Mario 3........Special? (HKO)
Post by: UglyJoe on November 23, 2008, 05:52:19 pm
I'll post the updated patch file.  Use the tool from that guy's website to apply it.

http://ximwix.net/storage/mario3patch.txt (http://ximwix.net/storage/mario3patch.txt)
Title: Re: Super Mario 3........Special? (HKO)
Post by: UglyJoe on November 23, 2008, 06:28:11 pm
Grab the sm3spatch.zip from his website and extract it.  Download my mario3patch.txt file and put it in that directory (overwrite the old one).  Find the rom online and extract it to that directory (you want the [C][b1] rom, not the [C][b1][o1] rom).  Rename the rom smb3s.gbc .  Download this file and put it in that directory:

http://ximwix.net/storage/patchit.bat (http://ximwix.net/storage/patchit.bat)

Double click patchit.bat and it'll create a file called smb3s_patched.gbc.  That's the patched rom.
Title: Re: Super Mario 3........Special? (HKO)
Post by: Paul-FC on November 23, 2008, 06:56:09 pm
ok i played it nice work man!
just plz try to get the sprites to work :)
Title: Re: Super Mario 3........Special? (HKO)
Post by: Paul-FC on November 23, 2008, 08:12:30 pm
here's a video i made about the sm3s ROM uglyjoe got kinda working
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkWt-M70j6w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkWt-M70j6w)
Title: Re: Super Mario 3........Special? (HKO)
Post by: UglyJoe on November 24, 2008, 09:20:10 pm
I updated the patch.  I fixed some of the corruption issues caused by vertical scrolling.  I was able to make it to the end of the first two levels.  There's a question mark block and after you hit it, nothing happens.  Dunno what that's about.  Still no sprites.  I know why the sprites are missing, but I'm not sure how to get them back in there.  At any rate, I might be done with this until some time after Thanksgiving (time with girlfriend trumps rom hacking, natch).

http://ximwix.net/storage/mario3patch.txt (http://ximwix.net/storage/mario3patch.txt)
Title: Re: Super Mario 3........Special? (HKO)
Post by: Paul-FC on November 25, 2008, 04:51:38 pm
nice work man!!!  :D
Title: Re: Super Mario 3........Special? (HKO)
Post by: UglyJoe on November 25, 2008, 08:19:06 pm
Okay, so I got Mario to appear, but no enemies or power ups (they're in a different bank).  The Mario sprites were completely missing from the rom, but luckily the overdump rom had them.  I had to switch over to an IPS patch because of it.  I'm assuming you know how to use it.  If not, just google LunarIPS.

http://ximwix.net/storage/sms3-beta1.ips (http://ximwix.net/storage/sms3-beta1.ips)
Title: Re: Super Mario 3........Special? (HKO)
Post by: Paul-FC on November 26, 2008, 08:03:41 am
yeah IPS is wayy easy
really nice work man!
Title: Re: Super Mario 3........Special? (HKO)
Post by: Paul-FC on November 28, 2008, 04:22:12 pm
hey uglyjoe any new updates?
Title: Re: Super Mario 3........Special? (HKO)
Post by: UglyJoe on November 28, 2008, 09:59:35 pm
Nope.  My girlfriend is home for her Thanksgiving break, so I've had more important things to do.
Title: Re: Super Mario 3........Special? (HKO)
Post by: Paul-FC on November 29, 2008, 08:03:58 am
no problem :)
Title: Re: Super Mario 3........Special? (HKO)
Post by: UglyJoe on November 30, 2008, 06:30:24 pm
Okay, it looks like everything is working now.  Go ahead and playtest it.  If you can't find anything wrong, feel free to distribute.

http://ximwix.net/storage/sm3s-beta2.ips (http://ximwix.net/storage/sm3s-beta2.ips)

(oh, and, contrary to that guy's review, you can hover a little bit with the raccoon suit by tapping B while you're in the air)

edit: looks like beta2 freezes after the second level, try this one instead:

http://ximwix.net/storage/sm3s-beta3.ips (http://ximwix.net/storage/sm3s-beta3.ips)
Title: Re: Super Mario 3........Special? (HKO)
Post by: Paul-FC on November 30, 2008, 07:17:27 pm
AWESOME WORK MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
only 1 thing is glitched up the para goombas
they go all crazy around the screen but other then that its perfect
Title: Re: Super Mario 3........Special? (HKO)
Post by: UglyJoe on November 30, 2008, 07:21:08 pm
Hmm...something like that is beyond my control.  That's probably a bug that exists on the cart version, too.
Title: Re: Super Mario 3........Special? (HKO)
Post by: Paul-FC on November 30, 2008, 07:23:11 pm
Quote from: UglyJoe on November 30, 2008, 07:21:08 pm
Hmm...something like that is beyond my control.  That's probably a bug that exists on the cart version, too.

yeah maybe........
some of these "GB Pirate Originals" such rocman x you cant even go on moving platforms with falling thru them lol :D
Title: Re: Super Mario 3........Special? (HKO)
Post by: UglyJoe on December 01, 2008, 04:50:53 am
If you make another Youtube video, please thank Brian Provinciano as well, since he's the one who made the mapper hack.  I just combined and rearranged the rom dumps so that his hack would work.
Title: Re: Super Mario 3........Special? (HKO)
Post by: Paul-FC on December 01, 2008, 08:16:30 am
Quote from: UglyJoe on December 01, 2008, 04:50:53 am
If you make another Youtube video, please thank Brian Provinciano as well, since he's the one who made the mapper hack.  I just combined and rearranged the rom dumps so that his hack would work.

alright ill credit both of you ;)
Title: Re: Super Mario 3........Special? (HKO)
Post by: UglyJoe on December 03, 2008, 07:12:16 pm
Just saw your newest Youtube.  I see what you mean about the crazy Paragoomba.  I tried it in Mednafen, BGB, and NO$GBM and couldn't recreate it.  What emulator are you using?
Title: Re: Super Mario 3........Special? (HKO)
Post by: Paul-FC on December 03, 2008, 07:38:20 pm
Quote from: UglyJoe on December 03, 2008, 07:12:16 pm
Just saw your newest Youtube.  I see what you mean about the crazy Paragoomba.  I tried it in Mednafen, BGB, and NO$GBM and couldn't recreate it.  What emulator are you using?

GEST
Title: Re: Super Mario 3........Special? (HKO)
Post by: Paul-FC on December 05, 2008, 09:22:41 am
hey uglyjoe
can you take a crack at this one?
its called donkey kong 5
http://www.mediafire.com/?3w5nlfxzgtm (http://www.mediafire.com/?3w5nlfxzgtm)
but when you start it up it just shows a black screen and if you press a button it flashes white for a sec

this is what it is supposed to look like...

PART 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNfQO2Oju40 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNfQO2Oju40)
PART 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru9V6fLk8fs&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru9V6fLk8fs&feature=related)

pokemon pinball music  :o

anyways can you take a shot at it?
Title: Re: Super Mario 3........Special? (HKO)
Post by: UglyJoe on December 05, 2008, 05:45:24 pm
I'll take a look at it next week, but don't expect too much.  If it's using a pirate mapper (and it probably is), then there isn't an emulator out there that will be able to run it.  It would have to be hacked to use a more common mapper instead.  That's what Brian did with SM3S.  All I did was combine the two rom dumps that were floating around on the internet so that they made a single valid rom dump.
Title: Re: Super Mario 3........Special? (HKO)
Post by: Paul-FC on December 10, 2008, 05:21:49 pm
any luck?
Title: Re: Super Mario 3........Special? (HKO)
Post by: UglyJoe on December 10, 2008, 05:28:57 pm
Nope.
Title: Re: Super Mario 3........Special? (HKO)
Post by: pauline on January 13, 2009, 11:51:42 pm
Thank you very  much for making such an excellent patch!  Anyways, I hope more patches could be made for ROM's of other games.

I would like to see a patch made for Rockman 8- so that it could be played on more emulators (especially LJP for Palm PDA's.)  If you are able to make a Rockman 8 patch, it would also be great if somebody could hack the music so that it could have the soundtrack from any of the following games: "Katamari Damacy", "Legend of Zelda", "Halo", or "Resident Evil!" 

I apologise if this post offended anybody.  I just want to see more patches available for games that are unplayable on the emulators that run on mobile phones.
Title: Re: Super Mario 3........Special? (HKO)
Post by: UglyJoe on January 14, 2009, 05:20:57 am
I don't intend on patching any more games.  This was a one-time thing.

Also, if the game works on some PC emulators, but fails to run on your mobile phone emulator, then that is a shortcoming of the emulator.  The proper solution is to ask the developer to support the pirate mapper that the game is using.
Title: Re: Super Mario 3........Special? (HKO)
Post by: MaxXimus on January 15, 2009, 07:33:40 pm
Why would you want that horrible Donkey Kong 5 pirate that appears to use the same levels from Super Mario Bros?

Why would anyone want to own those crappy pirates SMW and Somari? Because they are cool?
Title: Re: Super Mario 3........Special? (HKO)
Post by: 133MHz on January 15, 2009, 07:56:28 pm
It's like Big Rigs, it's so terrible that it's AWESOME!
I'd kill for a CIB copy of that game like PatMan33's
Title: Re: Super Mario 3........Special? (HKO)
Post by: nurd on January 15, 2009, 09:05:02 pm
Super mario 64 is better :p
Title: Re: Super Mario 3........Special? (HKO)
Post by: MaxXimus on January 15, 2009, 10:26:00 pm
Well poor quality is to be expected with games like these. It comes with the territory so to speak. I happen to like pirates due to their obscurity.