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Famicom World => Updates and Suggestions => Topic started by: Xious on August 11, 2011, 07:36:29 am

Title: B/S/T Board for non-FC Items
Post by: Xious on August 11, 2011, 07:36:29 am
The Famicom B/S/T board is starting to be overrun by MD and other system items... It would be nice to confine non-Famicom marketplace items to their own, discrete board... No rush: Just a suggestion... :bomb:
Title: Re: B/S/T Board for non-FC Items
Post by: tonev on October 12, 2011, 07:07:07 am
+1 This will also be great :)
Title: Re: B/S/T Board for non-FC Items
Post by: UglyJoe on October 12, 2011, 07:31:20 am
Where would threads offering both FC and non-FC items go?
Title: Re: B/S/T Board for non-FC Items
Post by: L___E___T on October 12, 2011, 12:01:23 pm
I would suggest the OTHER GAMING thread, with a sticky at the top, while also making the FINDS a sticky there.  Is that easy enough?
Title: Re: B/S/T Board for non-FC Items
Post by: tonev on October 12, 2011, 12:18:48 pm
Quote from: UglyJoe on October 12, 2011, 07:31:20 am
Where would threads offering both FC and non-FC items go?

Well there won't be treads that do both... it will be a rule like most forums with B/S/T sections have rules about real pictures etc.
The forum iscalled FAMICOM world not SEGA PS ATARI PC etc WORLD
Title: Re: B/S/T Board for non-FC Items
Post by: Xious on January 03, 2012, 12:27:00 am
Well, it's mostly to reduce the clutter, but not mandatory. I don't have a problem with SFC items, and even classic GB-related items in the B/S/T boards, but seeing X-Box and GC discs ad the like that really don't belong there gets tiresome.

I'm not terribly worried either way.  :bomb:

P.S. There are always child-boards, which are a basic feature of SMF. You could add a child-board for Non-Famicom Items and another for Clone Hardware, for example, which are visible from the B/S/T area.
Title: Re: B/S/T Board for non-FC Items
Post by: UglyJoe on January 03, 2012, 10:22:42 am
Well, what do the sellers think?  Would it be a nuisance to have to split your FS/FT threads into multiple threads across multiple boards?
Title: Re: B/S/T Board for non-FC Items
Post by: tonev on January 03, 2012, 02:53:14 pm
yes that way it will be easy to find famicom and non famicom stuff :) for example you are looking for some NES games just look at the subforum...
Title: Re: B/S/T Board for non-FC Items
Post by: jpx72 on January 03, 2012, 10:49:39 pm
So what? "Famicom" and "Non Famicom" subforum only? And what about NES games? Confusingly in the non-famicom section? Or add more subforums?  :'(

What about making a special message icon with the specific selling artifact? Like a small cartridge/controller or something-  FC, NES, SMD, SMS,..., Drinks, Drugs, Pets, Misc,...  Would be better than splitting to countless subforums, don't you think?
(http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/6203/cccfm.png)
Underground-gamer.com forum has nice ones...
Title: Re: B/S/T Board for non-FC Items
Post by: tonev on January 04, 2012, 01:32:17 am
We could have message icons but the sub forum for non FC stuff is a great idea and yes NES games will go in the non FC forum.
And if we are going to add message icon why use images from another forum... I can create them :) There could be  hm 4 icons? a FC controller , NES Controller , SEGA controller and a CD icon...
It would be better if there was a B/S/T system rather than a forum...
Title: Re: B/S/T Board for non-FC Items
Post by: Xious on January 04, 2012, 02:29:02 am
Even with an icon, the extra post still clutters up the board and shunts everything else downward.  :bomb:
Title: Re: B/S/T Board for non-FC Items
Post by: UglyJoe on January 04, 2012, 04:41:44 am
If I were to do this, it would only be a sub-forum under B/S/T (and I guess one under Auctions) for "Non-Famicom" stuff.  The main B/S/T board would be for Famicom stuff only.

Message icons are neat, but people wouldn't use them correctly.

And nobody answered my question.  What do the sellers think of all this?
Title: Re: B/S/T Board for non-FC Items
Post by: Xious on January 04, 2012, 05:03:45 am
Hmm... I made my original suggestion both fro the purview of a seller and as a buyer. The problem you face is that not many sellers read this board, say, compared to the 'Famicom & Disk System' board. :bomb:
Title: Re: B/S/T Board for non-FC Items
Post by: manuel on January 04, 2012, 05:30:08 am
As a seller I like to put everything into one thread.
But if there was a subforum I guess I'd use it.

I just fear that a lot of people who just don't notice the subforum will still post non-FC items on the FC board.
Title: Re: B/S/T Board for non-FC Items
Post by: tonev on January 04, 2012, 06:12:24 am
There will be a rule about this... and no they won't. For example look at the new Technical & Repair Assistance forum. They stopped asking repair questions in the general famicom forum :) So it will be the same as in the subforum in B/S/T . We are Famicom World not FAMINESSEGAN64PS World  ;D
Title: Re: B/S/T Board for non-FC Items
Post by: Xious on January 05, 2012, 02:34:29 am
Manuel has a point... Child-boards are less visible than full boards, so some people may miss it in that format. maybe a full board would be better, however, it is possible to start it as a child-board and convert it to a full board later, or vice versa.

People do still post technical threads int he main board.partly because of how the tech board is named (I would have preferred 'Technical Topics & Repair Assistance', as the way it stands, it looks to newcomers as a 'help me' board, but not a developers area) and then mods move them on occasion. This is mostly new members,who usually are corrected by FW staff and then know what to do afterward.

I actually wouldn't mind some system-specific bards in 'other gaming' either; at least, classic gaming boards that are in some way related. A SuFami area, for example, would be a positive addition, and having a dedicated NES discussions area wouldn't be a horrible idea.

I would also say that having a couple non-FC items in a FC B/S/T post should be allowed, but if your post has more non-FC items than FC-items, then you should split it. This would also allow better (aimed) marketing for sellers, and the ability to post in more areas with wares, which gains more attention.

If you want to split up more than one extra B/S/T area, which isn't in any way mandatory, I'd suggest having 'Classic Gen' and 'Modern Gen' child boards.For example, i have no interest whatever in systems made after the Jaguar, but some people ahve little interest in Atari-era and Coleco-era items. This would help filtre down the categories to something practical. I would also say that selling SuFami items on the FC B/S/T board should be allowed, although selling them on the other board should also be alright.

It's mostly a matter of getting PS/GC/XBox items out of the Famicom B/S/T arena. People looking for specific items would do better to post in an appropriate board, as those with such articles would be more apt at locating the posts; this is why I'd suggest splitting it up by one degree further into Classic/Modern goods. For my own business, I define classic as anything released from 1996 back, and modern as anything from 1997 to the present, as this was a major transition point for the polygon 3-D era.  

The Jaguar for example, was essentially axed in 1996, and it's the last of the true Atari era. The UFC/N64 was also released in 1996, marking the end of the SuFami/SNES era, and the Playstation, although released in 1994, was not really huge until around the same time. This is why I often deem true vintage and classical console systems to have existed from 1972 (The Odyssey) or 1975/76 (Atari Pong) through 1996, and those are the years that I as a seller cover (although I go back to the 1920s with audio & radio gear, the 1950s with television and video equipment, and the 1960s with computer systems).

Categorical boards help both sellers and buyers alike, although I do fully understand the trouble cause by excessive boards in terms of moderation and cross-posting... :bomb:
Title: Re: B/S/T Board for non-FC Items
Post by: tonev on January 05, 2012, 02:39:52 am
Xious your ideas are great :)
Title: Re: B/S/T Board for non-FC Items
Post by: UglyJoe on January 05, 2012, 07:07:53 am
So many sub-forums :P

I have to ask: what exactly is the problem that you're trying to solve? 

I don't like to make sub-forums unless a forum is becoming too crowded -- too many new/updated posts to follow what's going on.  That's the problem I try to solve with sub-forums.  Looking at the B/S/T forum, I can say that this problem exists (although it could be worse).  To be honest, though, it looks to me that a better way to reduce the crowding would be to create a WTB sub-forum.  That would pretty much split the B/S/T in half.
Title: Re: B/S/T Board for non-FC Items
Post by: tonev on January 05, 2012, 02:06:04 pm
That is a nice idea too make a separate forum for WTB  that way it will become more organized... yeah and soon the forum may become crowded ( or there are A LOT of bots :D because 40+ guests wow )
Title: Re: B/S/T Board for non-FC Items
Post by: Xious on January 06, 2012, 12:00:17 am
As a seller, I would rather have a separate board for non-FC items, as I prefer to read WTB threads in a topical manner, tied to selling threads, so that I know to whom I can market goods. I would rather keep it as it is than split the WTB from WTS items.  :bomb:
Title: Re: B/S/T Board for non-FC Items
Post by: Zeloz (akaBill) on January 06, 2012, 12:05:53 pm
Question!

If we do end up splitting or organizing the BST board by system, what will become of the current boards selling both FC and non-FC items? Will they have to be split between boards, or will they stay the same while new threads adopt the new format?
I'm all for having an FC and non-FC BST boards; as a buyer, I believe it would make looking for certain items a lot easier than having to wade through one board. But, if we do take this course of action, I would like to request that NES items be kept in the FC half. Give or take a few pins, the two are similar enough IMO.
Title: Re: B/S/T Board for non-FC Items
Post by: Xious on January 06, 2012, 02:49:43 pm
The posts, whichever are already there, would not be moved or modified.  :bomb:
Title: Re: B/S/T Board for non-FC Items
Post by: fredJ on January 14, 2012, 08:26:34 am
I would prefer not to have child-forums for reasons stated by UglyJoe.

It would work better to have two buy/sell forums. The second forum could be put under main category "Misc".
They have divided it like that at the swedish nes forum and it works well I would say.
It is not such a big problem, if someone wants to sell both famicom and other stuff in one thread. They make a thread in either section and usually it gets noticed by interested people. Similar to how people post their famicom finds in the "Finds (other)" thread (though I find it annoying...)
Title: Re: B/S/T Board for non-FC Items
Post by: Parodius Duh on January 18, 2012, 10:35:14 pm
I think a separate "Other Gaming Items FS/FT" sub forum is a great idea and a must have!  ::)
Title: Re: B/S/T Board for non-FC Items
Post by: petik1 on January 19, 2012, 08:30:05 am
Nintendoage has a quarterly community garage sale. Just throwing that out there.
Title: Re: B/S/T Board for non-FC Items
Post by: MarkNES on August 09, 2012, 12:37:35 pm
Personally, I like a Buy-Sell-Trade website to match with their offered products (ex. NintendoAGE = Nintendo items only) (FamicomWorld = retro Nintendo items only). This may sound harsh, but why not ban somebody if they post even one Sega item for sale? This isn't SegaWorld (yet).
Title: Re: B/S/T Board for non-FC Items
Post by: famiac on August 09, 2012, 04:15:05 pm
That's incredibly harsh. If someone wants to sell a sega item, let them go ahead. Just because someone wants to sell some other consoles or games doesn't mean that the integrity of the forum as a famicom community has been destroyed. If people dont want to register on another forum they can sell here, and honestly, we have nothing to lose.

I prefer the idea of making a separate B/S/T board...
Title: Re: B/S/T Board for non-FC Items
Post by: petik1 on August 09, 2012, 04:31:06 pm
Quote from: MarkNES on August 09, 2012, 12:37:35 pm
This may sound harsh, but why not ban somebody if they post even one Sega item for sale?


What? Why would they want to drive users away from the forum?
Title: Re: B/S/T Board for non-FC Items
Post by: 80sFREAK on August 09, 2012, 04:52:25 pm
Quote from: MarkNES on August 09, 2012, 12:37:35 pm
Personally, I like a Buy-Sell-Trade website to match with their offered products (ex. NintendoAGE = Nintendo items only) (FamicomWorld = retro Nintendo items only). This may sound harsh, but why not ban somebody if they post even one Sega item for sale? This isn't SegaWorld (yet).
Just another nintendoager lol Why not to ban somebody with under xx posts, who trying B/S/T? Just think about it.
Title: Re: B/S/T Board for non-FC Items
Post by: fredJ on August 09, 2012, 05:17:45 pm
Quote from: MarkNES on August 09, 2012, 12:37:35 pm
Personally, I like a Buy-Sell-Trade website to match with their offered products (ex. NintendoAGE = Nintendo items only) (FamicomWorld = retro Nintendo items only). This may sound harsh, but why not ban somebody if they post even one Sega item for sale? This isn't SegaWorld (yet).

i think grownups don't go to nintendoage. ???
Title: Re: B/S/T Board for non-FC Items
Post by: Epic_Lotus on August 09, 2012, 06:56:33 pm
Lol, I like NintendoAge.  There's some good folk over there, although a few of the users do get on my nerves once in a while.  I do prefer the atmosphere here a lot more, though. 

Sometimes it does take a bit to sort through all of the non-FC threads on here, but that's ok with me.  It's a good to know I can look for non-FC stuff here if I can't find it on other boards, since not everyone has an account on every gaming message board.  There might just be a member here that has what I'm looking for that isn't on those other places.
Title: Re: B/S/T Board for non-FC Items
Post by: 80sFREAK on August 09, 2012, 09:18:22 pm
Quote from: Epic_Lotus on August 09, 2012, 06:56:33 pm
Lol, I like NintendoAge.  There's some good folk over there, although a few of the users do get on my nerves once in a while.  I do prefer the atmosphere here a lot more, though. 

Sometimes it does take a bit to sort through all of the non-FC threads on here, but that's ok with me.  It's a good to know I can look for non-FC stuff here if I can't find it on other boards, since not everyone has an account on every gaming message board.  There might just be a member here that has what I'm looking for that isn't on those other places.
Non-FC is GameBoy, for example. But it's Nintendo's product. Also not so long time ago here was discussion about restrict or not amount of threads per person.

IMO here should be restriction one-two threads per person also recommendation to use codes for carts to avoid misspelling titles.
Title: Re: B/S/T Board for non-FC Items
Post by: manuel on August 09, 2012, 09:38:14 pm
So far most of the stuff sold here is Famicom-related.
There are a few other items, but I don't see why those should be forbidden.