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Family Computer => Technical & Repair Assistance => Topic started by: NES012 on November 09, 2011, 12:43:27 AM



Title: USE Famicombox Cart To NES
Post by: NES012 on November 09, 2011, 12:43:27 AM
 :help:me.
my uncle send me a famicombox Black Cart(1943,Super Mario Bros,Duck Hunt)
So I want Know How to hell Use Famicombox Black Cart To  NES.... I saw An Article It said 'Famicombox Games Dosen't Work on NES.... So I didn't Use...Help
 :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help:

mod edit: using all of the emoticons does not unlock a secret prize.  please don't do that again.


Title: Re: USE Famicombox Cart To NES
Post by: manuel on November 09, 2011, 05:10:54 AM
You can't play them on a NES.
Possible solution?
Sell the black carts, buy the titles on regular NES carts and use the rest of the money on more games.


Title: Re: USE Famicombox Cart To NES
Post by: L___E___T on November 09, 2011, 09:58:06 AM
yes , you could pick up 1943 for super cheap and famicombox carts sell for a good amount usually.
I'd run it past your uncle first though!


Title: Re: USE Famicombox Cart To NES
Post by: NintendoKing on November 09, 2011, 11:20:31 AM
Yup that's probably a $30 cart that you could use to buy 6 games. :)


Title: Re: USE Famicombox Cart To NES
Post by: Xious on November 09, 2011, 04:31:07 PM
Please view your messages when you get a chance.  :bomb:


Title: Re: USE Famicombox Cart To NES
Post by: petik1 on November 09, 2011, 09:13:50 PM
Oh God, emoticon overload.


Title: Re: USE Famicombox Cart To NES
Post by: NES012 on November 14, 2011, 07:59:00 AM
 :mspacman: :fire: :fire:
damn... my mother said "don't sell that cart!!"
So I Must Fix the NES...To Play Famicombox Game...
You can't play them on a NES.
Possible solution?
Sell the black carts, buy the titles on regular NES carts and use the rest of the money on more games.


Title: Re: USE Famicombox Cart To NES
Post by: petik1 on November 14, 2011, 09:07:03 AM
No, you physically can't. There's a different lockout chip in Famicombox games;


Title: Re: USE Famicombox Cart To NES
Post by: MWK on November 14, 2011, 06:23:35 PM
How about a NES with lockout chip disabled? or AV NES Top Loader?


Title: Re: USE Famicombox Cart To NES
Post by: petik1 on November 14, 2011, 09:11:12 PM
Different cartridge pinout. I also think that Famicombox games are programmed differently to allow the system to display the game's name.

For God's sake, Mario, Duck Hunt, and 1943 are dirt cheap. Don't try to modify a pretty scarce cart just so you don't have to spend $5.


Title: Re: USE Famicombox Cart To NES
Post by: nintendodork on November 19, 2011, 05:06:05 PM
It's your uncle's game, right?  If he's alright with you selling it, I don't see why your mom would care.  Tell her of it's value, but also how it is of little use to you, and maybe she'll understand.


Title: Re: USE Famicombox Cart To NES
Post by: Xious on November 21, 2011, 01:58:28 PM
I haven't dumped any FC Box  ROMs to check the differences. I expect there is extra code, probably tacked onto the end of PRG.  :bomb:


Title: Re: USE Famicombox Cart To NES
Post by: Parodius Duh on November 24, 2011, 05:58:24 PM
I have been encountering this question on multiple forums. This is the 150% truthful fact:

YOU WILL NEVER, NEVER EVER, BE ABLE TO MAKE A FAMICOM BOX OR FAMICOM STATION CARTRIDGE WORK ON ANY OTHER FAMICOM/NES SYSTEM OTHER THAN THE FAMICOM BOX OR STATION SYSTEMS.


.....and thats the HARD truth!!!!!!


Title: Re: USE Famicombox Cart To NES
Post by: petik1 on November 24, 2011, 06:20:14 PM
No, you physically can't. There's a different lockout chip in Famicombox games;
are you sure?

No, I spread lies for fun.


Title: Re: USE Famicombox Cart To NES
Post by: Xious on November 24, 2011, 06:27:00 PM
One can rewire anything, but it's pointless unless you want a dumping configuration for FCBox games.  :bomb:


Title: Re: USE Famicombox Cart To NES
Post by: Phosphora on May 09, 2012, 11:29:00 PM
Famicom Box carts work just like any other cart, they're simply games with a special region-lock in NES form factor. The Pin-out is the same as the NES.
They played fine on my unmodded Sharp Titler Famicom with an NES adaptor (Guess the Titler has no lock), played by just plugging into a top-loader US NES with no modification or adaptor needed (Top-Loader has no lockout chip), and will play on an old original toaster NES if you clip pin #4 on the lockout chip inside the console. As a matter of fact, I was playing a Black Hotel Box cart on my boring old Toaster NES that has had the lockout chip disabled just this very morning. :)

All the consoles that aren't locked that I've owned listed above do play these games.

Here's some quick candid photographic evidence. There's nothing super special about these carts that make them unplayable.
Yes, the carts are locked. The lock is easily bypassed in the same generic ways that you bypass any other Fami/NES lock.
(http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac351/NEO-AEG/hotelplay.png)


Title: Re: USE Famicombox Cart To NES
Post by: michaelthegreat on May 15, 2012, 07:58:37 PM
The pinout is different but the difference is that the famicombox lockout chip is also routed to expansion port pins. Since these pins aren't used in the nes, the pinout difference doesn't matter. So just disable your lockout chip and you're good to go (dumping or playing).


Title: Re: USE Famicombox Cart To NES
Post by: i64X on January 31, 2014, 01:11:56 PM
Sorry to bump such an old thread, but I recently picked up a Famicombox and have done some testing, and some of the information in this thread is wrong.

You CAN play Famicombox black games in a top loader North American NES. I did it - they work. They DO work in a front-loader NES with the lockout chip disabled. They DO NOT work in a front-loader NES without the lockout chip disabled.

They obviously do not work in a Famicom or AV Famicom due to the games being 72 pin games.

Standard NES carts DO NOT work in the Famicombox. When initially going through the cartridge check, the system fails when a normal NES cart is inserted and just says "Cassette Check Error" on the screen and won't boot.

Pickup/overview video is here showing what I described above:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLUSGX1mjkA


Title: Re: USE Famicombox Cart To NES
Post by: L___E___T on January 31, 2014, 07:04:45 PM
What you'e just covered was exactly my understanding (but I didn't read over this thread fully yet), but you say the FamicomBox / FamicomStation games do not work in a Famicom or an AV Famicom.  While that's technically correct, it sounds a little like they won't work at all, whereas you just need a converter.  I'm sure that's what you were outlining all the same.

I still wish there as a way to get different game running on the FamicomBox / FamicomStation - surely it's possible one way or another..