What's the best way to backup my FDS games?

Started by ulera, August 12, 2012, 12:58:46 am

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ulera

FDS games go bad over time, it''s a fact of life ??? what is the best/cheapest way I can backup my FDS games and then rewrite the disk when it goes bad. (I know at the very least I will have to mod my disk system)

Tricky

There's a well-written tutorial here http://www.famicomdisksystem.com/tutorials/disk-dumping/dumping-disks-with-fdsloader/ which requires a slow PC (Pentium II should do) with a parallel port and an FDSloadr dump cable. Same site has tutorials on building a dump cable, and modding the FDS, though I don't think you'll need to mod it just for dumping.

Alternatively there's Chris Covell's method, which turns the game data into audio http://www.chrismcovell.com/TapeDump_Controls.html but that requires a method to play NES backups, like a powerpak.

ulera

Why does it have to be a slow pc? wouldn't a parralel port to Usb adapter work?

GohanX

The Fdsloadr program is really finnicky. USB adapters do not work, and I also couldn't get newer computers that had parallel ports to work either. An old Pentium 2 I found loaded with real DOS (not DOS prompt) is the only thing I could find that would work.

lobdale


ulera

Quote from: GohanX on August 12, 2012, 08:05:49 pm
The Fdsloadr program is really finnicky. USB adapters do not work, and I also couldn't get newer computers that had parallel ports to work either. An old Pentium 2 I found loaded with real DOS (not DOS prompt) is the only thing I could find that would work.


Any other programs that are not as good that would work? I just don't have any crappy computers around.

GohanX

Fdsloadr is it, unless you got your hands on an actual disk copying disk, then you wouldn't need a computer to backup anything.

I'd offer to write one for you, but I've only found one working disc copier image, and it won't copy itself.

ericj

If anyone needs or wants a copy program on disk, send me a PM.

Tricky

kyuusaku said he was working on a cable that would use USB to dump disks, presumably working with modern PCs http://forums.nesdev.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7818&start=15 but as far as I can see there wasn't any word of progress since.

80sFreak said that his in-development FDS RAM adapter replacement would in theory be able to support connecting to the disk drive which I imagine would allow for dumping, but that it would require extra chips.

ericj

AFAIK kyuusaku's USB dumper never got finished.

Tricky

Quote from: 80sFREAK on August 13, 2012, 06:37:24 am
Ummm... should i support "red box" in RAM adapter replacement?


I'd likely buy one if you did  ;D Even if not, I'd still be tempted to get one, but as a much later priority, since a backup of a system known for frequently failing would be great.

Quote from: ericj on August 13, 2012, 06:43:18 am
AFAIK kyuusaku's USB dumper never got finished.


Ah, that's a shame. Do you know why he didn't finish it? Lack of motivation or time, or just couldn't get it working?

GohanX

Quote from: 80sFREAK on August 12, 2012, 10:53:12 pm
wow! good thing :) so you have disk utility?


I don't have a physical disk, but I have an image on my computer. I use FDSloader to load it into the RAM adapter, and once it's loaded I use it for creating the new disk.