NES CLASSIC MINI CLONE EU VERSION

Started by yeeshen33, June 09, 2017, 02:49:25 am

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Bebop

Quote from: albator651 on July 20, 2017, 07:02:37 am
Hi everyone !  ;D

I'm French and I would like to buy a nes clone but it is very hard...

I don't find this model with an international shipping.

I have search on Aliexpress (but they do not sell this model), on Taobao it is the same problem...

Do you have any advice, websites, where I could take one?

Thank you



Alibaba $60

Eur version:
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/EUR-version-of-the-N-ES_60705566439.html?spm=a2700.7724838.2017115.10.0ZzBu8

Usa version:
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/USA-version-TV-console-with-30_60705256086.html?spm=a2700.details.maylikever.10.6b055f1eJdsWuR

albator651


thibor

July 20, 2017, 10:36:48 am #137 Last Edit: July 20, 2017, 10:45:12 am by thibor
Hello!

The clone I've received, comes without home screen, but have the lag flaws, maybe not as bad as in other drives I've seen in some videos. I have noticed two points on the motherboard that seem previously used to solder some type of bridge or component, perhaps necessary to record the firmware. Used by the manufacturer. These points with solder remains are shown in the photograph I attached, I have done some tests, and joining both points, there is an electric bridge that works as the power on control button. I would like to know if other units that you have, contain tin remains in these points, or other points.

Thanks!

You can see completely the motherboard of my clone in the video that I uploaded to youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRKyFg2rID8&t=450s

8:25*


Bebop

To all there have got this replica...do you regret your purchase?

Even with the flaws and bugs...i kinda like it :) i like it for what it is and what it is not :)

NintendoKing

Does anyone know if the clone controllers will work with a real NES Classic? If so I would like to find a set somehow as they would probably be infinitely more valuable then these shite replica consoles.

thibor

Quote from: The Uninvited Gremlin on July 20, 2017, 12:18:28 pm
Does anyone know if the clone controllers will work with a real NES Classic? If so I would like to find a set somehow as they would probably be infinitely more valuable then these shite replica consoles.


They don't  work, it's a shame......





Quote from: Bebop on July 20, 2017, 12:12:06 pm
To all there have got this replica...do you regret your purchase?

Even with the flaws and bugs...i kinda like it :) i like it for what it is and what it is not :)


Its rare and I like to have it, but not for the cost of $ 70, I hope the seller on aliexpress will give me back half of the money that I have stuck. Because this clone should not cost more than 40 $

NintendoKing

Well that's unfortunate and yes these are built from $10 Chinese MP4 player guts, same chipset just a bigger board. These are never going to be very good consoles, as a real NES Classic can emulate even N64 (though not well but the same as a Raspberry Pi 3 would).

NES Classic = Nintendos version of Raspberry Pi 3

NES Classic Clone = Chinese MP4 player repurposed as a 240p NES emulation box (Not exactly the same as the MP4 Player board pictured but definitely built on a similar design)



Bebop

Quote from: thibor on July 20, 2017, 12:25:49 pm
Quote from: The Uninvited Gremlin on July 20, 2017, 12:18:28 pm
Does anyone know if the clone controllers will work with a real NES Classic? If so I would like to find a set somehow as they would probably be infinitely more valuable then these shite replica consoles.


They don't  work, it's a shame......





Quote from: Bebop on July 20, 2017, 12:12:06 pm
To all there have got this replica...do you regret your purchase?

Even with the flaws and bugs...i kinda like it :) i like it for what it is and what it is not :)


Its rare and I like to have it, but not for the cost of $ 70, I hope the seller on aliexpress will give me back half of the money that I have stuck. Because this clone should not cost more than 40 $


Yeah that i agree of, $70 its to expensive it should have been like $40 as you say.

Rupert

Quote from: The Uninvited Gremlin on July 20, 2017, 12:56:23 pm

NES Classic Clone = Chinese MP4 player repurposed as a 240p NES emulation box (Not exactly the same as the MP4 Player board pictured but definitely built on a similar design)



I'm not exactly sure where the 240p part comes from. Sure it's not as good as the real thing, but my television is reporting 720p input when using the clone.

If SMB3 ran at the right speed, I think I'd be happy with it. The video output is a bit, poor, but compared to my rpi3 retropie box, the input lag is nonexistent.

L___E___T

 



Someone already did a test that showed it was 240P, stretched up to 720 if that makes sense.  It's not crazy blurred for you?  I was shocked at how bad it was haha...

Outside of the menu that is - the menu is 720P from the looks of it, but I booted up Kirby and was appalled at the picture quality.  Almost as bad as straight composite.
My for Sale / Trade thread
http://www.famicomworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=9423.msg133828#msg133828
大事なのは、オチに至るまでの積み重ねなのです。

NintendoKing

Quote from: Rupert on July 20, 2017, 02:21:04 pm
Quote from: The Uninvited Gremlin on July 20, 2017, 12:56:23 pm

NES Classic Clone = Chinese MP4 player repurposed as a 240p NES emulation box (Not exactly the same as the MP4 Player board pictured but definitely built on a similar design)



I'm not exactly sure where the 240p part comes from. Sure it's not as good as the real thing, but my television is reporting 720p input when using the clone.

If SMB3 ran at the right speed, I think I'd be happy with it. The video output is a bit, poor, but compared to my rpi3 retropie box, the input lag is nonexistent.



If I plug my AV Famicom into an upscaler HD converter then my tv will report 1080p, that doesn't mean it's 1080p. It's just sending a HD signal towards your tv, the clone is 240p converted to a 720p signal, probably by that extra chip on the board that I cannot identify.

Rupert

Quote from: The Uninvited Gremlin on July 20, 2017, 03:45:21 pm


If I plug my AV Famicom into an upscaler HD converter then my tv will report 1080p, that doesn't mean it's 1080p. It's just sending a HD signal towards your tv, the clone is 240p converted to a 720p signal, probably by that extra chip on the board that I cannot identify.


Right, the games themselves are originally 240p. Anything larger is upscaling in one way or another, by your definition. The original NES Classic mini is upscaling, by your definition. I just confirmed, my TV is receiving a 720p signal even during game play.

No, it doesn't look good, but it's only a novelty to me anyway. Likely the result of poor emulation, poor video drivers or simply being underpowered (or all 3). What do you expect from a Chinese knockoff?

If we can't hack & improve it, I'll eventually swap the board out for a raspberry pi, hopefully keeping the controller ports somehow.

NintendoKing

Technically NES Classic upsteps the image to fit while the clone is just stretching the image to fit. It's quite a bit different.

L___E___T

July 21, 2017, 03:22:21 am #148 Last Edit: July 21, 2017, 03:27:22 am by L___E___T
 



Quote from: Rupert on July 20, 2017, 05:08:51 pm

Anything larger is upscaling in one way or another, by your definition. The original NES Classic mini is upscaling, by your definition. I just confirmed, my TV is receiving a 720p signal even during game play.



That's the difference right there - the NES Classic Mini upscales (nearest neighbour), so you get a 240 resolution game, except each pixel is tripled in size.  This gives you a crisp 720P native image.

The clone isn't doing that - it's just taking a 240P image and stretching it to fill a 720P space (bilinear).  So each pixel is blended into those around it.

The difference is illustrated below.  NES Classic Mini approach is on the right, what the clone does is on the left:




My for Sale / Trade thread
http://www.famicomworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=9423.msg133828#msg133828
大事なのは、オチに至るまでの積み重ねなのです。

NintendoKing

Exactly L___E___T! You have explained it in a way that anyone will understand because you included visuals.