Disk Writer BIOS dump?

Started by boye, April 04, 2019, 10:12:14 am

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boye

Is there a dump of the Disk Writer BIOS?
Can't find the FDSLoadr PC program? Get it here. It took me way too long to find.

UglyJoe

Yes, most emulators require it.  I won't link it directly since it's technically a ROM, but if you google for "FDS bios" or "disksys.rom", you'll find it.

boye

Quote from: UglyJoe on April 04, 2019, 10:17:06 am
Yes, most emulators require it.  I won't link it directly since it's technically a ROM, but if you google for "FDS bios" or "disksys.rom", you'll find it.

No, not the FDS BIOS, the BIOS that was used for the Disk Writers.
Can't find the FDSLoadr PC program? Get it here. It took me way too long to find.

UglyJoe

Ooh, sorry.  Misread the request :-[

boye

Quote from: UglyJoe on April 04, 2019, 10:22:10 am
Ooh, sorry.  Misread the request :-[

No problem. Happens to everyone.
Can't find the FDSLoadr PC program? Get it here. It took me way too long to find.

80sFREAK

Why do you need this? Want make a replica?  8)
I don't buy, sell or trade at moment.
But my question is how hackers at that time were able to hack those games?(c)krzy

P

Yeah but they look great.
We can only hope that someone on Nintendo leaks it, or a miracle happens and they let someone publish documents and dumps of it. NOA apparently let the last Sky Skipper board get dumped which then got emulated by Mame long ago (and more recently Arcade Archives), but this is Nintendo headquarters not NOA.

Quote from: FingeredDonut on April 04, 2019, 02:14:37 pm
I know this is not part of the subject but, I found the sprites sheet from it:
https://mfgg.net/?act=resdb&param=02&c=1&id=30528

Thank you! :)

Quote from: 80sFREAK on April 04, 2019, 11:39:26 pm
Why do you need this? Want make a replica?  8)

Who doesn't need this?

80sFREAK

April 05, 2019, 02:29:24 am #7 Last Edit: April 05, 2019, 02:42:47 am by 80sFREAK
Then my question is - how images were stored in original device? My guess some sort of ROM cartridges  ???

And what you gonna copy?  ???

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I think, that modified RAM adapter can do the job.
I don't buy, sell or trade at moment.
But my question is how hackers at that time were able to hack those games?(c)krzy

P

Yeah on pictures the kiosk has 9 slots filled with special yellow cartridges that looks like NES cartridges, so it is believed that stores got new games on these. Sounds like only 9 games are available at a time, but I guess the clerk can technically just swap the cartridge out if a customer wants an older game not currently featured.

http://www.chrismcovell.com/secret/sp_FDShardware.html#diskwriter

There's a QD-drive in the door where the disk is inserted at. There's also a slot that says SOFT PACK and another slot I can't read. There are no obvious buttons so I'm not sure how it's operated.

I wonder if the Disk Writer hardware is Famicom-based. It would make sense to reuse existing hardware anyway.

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Quote from: 80sFREAK on April 05, 2019, 02:29:24 am
And what you gonna copy?  ???

What do you mean? If you just wanna copy disks you obviously don't need this. That's not the point.

80sFREAK

Ok. Do you have any idea, what was inside those yellow cartridges?
I think it is possible to disable BIOS and rearrange memory map.
I don't buy, sell or trade at moment.
But my question is how hackers at that time were able to hack those games?(c)krzy

boye

I wonder if you could use NES carts that have equal to or less than 64k of ROM (that includes PRG rom and CHR rom) total on the Disk Writer?
Can't find the FDSLoadr PC program? Get it here. It took me way too long to find.

80sFREAK

You should read nesdev wiki. There is lots of useful information.

My guess, why there is only 9 slots for the distributed games - 10th slot occupied by BIOS cart, which is "inside the cat". And no, for those "yellow carts" no need CHR part, but special mapper, if there is famicom bus(not custom bus).
I don't buy, sell or trade at moment.
But my question is how hackers at that time were able to hack those games?(c)krzy

P

Yeah if we assume the Disk Writer is Famicom-based hardware, it's running a built-in BIOS cart and the yellow carts are purely used as storage media for the games that are to be copied. Only the BIOS needs the CHR chip since it's the only thing that needs to run.

I heard nothing at all about the yellow carts. That they are used as storage media for featured FDS games is pure speculation, but it's likely since there are nine of them and there are nine FDS titles displayed on the kiosk.

boye

I assume they are storage media, to make it easier for the games to be swapped out later.
Maybe they are just NES carts?
Can't find the FDSLoadr PC program? Get it here. It took me way too long to find.

80sFREAK

I don't buy, sell or trade at moment.
But my question is how hackers at that time were able to hack those games?(c)krzy