Started by Famicom.In.My.Blood, May 17, 2022, 02:49:19 pm
Quote from: P on June 21, 2022, 02:31:25 pmYou did? Most TV-sets didn't even have composite inputs when the Famicom were released AFAIK, and even though the NES did come with composite output you would have to buy the cable separately (it's just two male-to-male RCA cables for video and audio though) if your TV did support it.Our family continued to use RF through both the 8-bit and 16-bit eras, and we didn't even know what composite was until the PS1 and N64 came which did include composite cables by default (and thankfully we had a new and better TV with SCART connectors and stereo speakers to make use of it).I think RF and composite are both fine for the Famicom/NES, but RGB is a bit too inauthentic to me and it doesn't seem to be totally problem free either, so it's a no-thank-you for me.RGB is fine and preferred on arcade systems like the VS System, computers like MSX, consoles like SFC, Megadrive, Saturn, PS1, PS2, Dreamcast and other systems that has RGB natively. But even on some of those there are known cases when composite is basically required, especially on the Megadrive as many games uses dithering to simulate transparency, and this effect only works on composite. The SFC also has a very rare case in Hoshi no Kirby 3 that also does this despite the hardware being able to produce real transparency.I think RGB is semi-inauthentic on the PC-Engine. It does output it natively in the expansion port (although no official peripherals makes any kind of use of it AFAIK), and an RGB option may be nice to have, but I would never sacrifice composite for RGB for many reasons. Besides that games might not be designed for RGB output in mind, there are several hardware features (like the black & white mode) which simply doesn't work with its RGB output due to how the system is made.I'm not sure but according to Wikipedia the Twin only has composite video output (RCA), despite Japanese TV-sets with composite being very rare at the time. Also according to Wikipedia an RF-modulator for the Twin was released separately for people with only RF input in their TV.The AV Famicom can use the same separate RF-modulator as N64 can, but that's for the MULTIOUT port found on those systems which the Twin doesn't have, so the Twin must have its own special RF-modulator. I don't think I've ever seen it.
Quote from: P on June 29, 2022, 02:07:29 pmSeems I was right regarding France, SCART and SECAM. I also learned that the French NES has an internal composite-to-RGB converter which is why you used a SCART cable for your NES (and an RGB one to boot).Using the RGB cable doesn't mean it has better quality than other NES or Famicom versions though, and it's actually worse since it's just RGB converted from composite (the NES video hardware doesn't output any RGB, only composite).
Quote from: boye on June 30, 2022, 10:36:54 amI'd personally go for the AN-505 if you can snag one, due to its integrated turbo controllers, (especially handy on a console with hardwired controllers) and its power LED.
Quote from: Famicom.In.My.Blood on July 03, 2022, 05:33:03 amHum... well, I'm not sure to understand what you mean here, as I never said PAL NES had RGB, but SCART Composite. I used the official Nintendo cable sold with back then, and if the picture's quality is better than RF, I don't know if it's better than other NES/Famicom models which have Composite output too !
Quote from: Famicom.In.My.Blood on July 03, 2022, 05:33:03 amGlobally, PAL consoles have a better RGB picture than other regions models, as it's "pure", or raw RGB (C-Sync), while others are not and need a by-pass (Master System, Mega Drive, or SNES). Once again, I talk here for RGB consoles, not for Composite ones, because I know some NTSC consoles have better Composite picture than PAL models, as SNES Jr., or Saturn Jap VA0/1/2.
Quote from: Famicom.In.My.Blood on July 03, 2022, 05:33:03 amNES PAL must be avoided just because you can't make 50/60Hz mod on it (if I'm not mistaken), so you have just 50Hz in-game