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new, 3D famicom game

Started by L___E___T, September 19, 2009, 06:47:11 pm

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manuel

Development should over by now. The scheduled release date in Japan is November 5.

PatMan33

October 05, 2009, 05:12:05 am #46 Last Edit: October 05, 2009, 05:18:56 am by PatMan33
That's a shame. The gameplay video I saw looked really crappy. :-\


**EDIT**
The video I'm talking about was posted here.

I don't know... that certainly doesn't hype me up for the game. Like, it looks nifty to a certain point but the gameplay doesn't appear to be all that incredible. It seems as if it's only a couple steps above the first Zelda game and that isn't a compliment.

nensondubois

I'm still sad about this being a Japan only exclusive. Well, on an interesting note of localizing games: Animal Crossing Was a bitch to translate into English but Nintendo of Japan like it so much that they re-translated it back into Japanese and made an e+ version with even more features including holidays and e-reader support. That's taking localization to the extreme. :D

manuel

I think I've read somewhere that Atlus might publish it in the US.

L___E___T

Well, I'm for one still hyped about this.  Something I saw today just fuels that even more!

My for Sale / Trade thread
http://www.famicomworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=9423.msg133828#msg133828
大事なのは、オチに至るまでの積み重ねなのです。

Medisinyl

Quote from: manuel on October 01, 2009, 07:13:53 am
This looks really awesome!

I sincerely hope that this won't become a reason for a lawsuit, because it is suspiciously similar to Zelda.


If Nintendo doesn't already have their hand in this, I have no idea how there couldn't be an issue.  From the trailer and other online clips, I see it is loaded with "identical" 3D translations of numerous elements from Zelda 1 and 3. 

L___E___T

gameplay elements?  You can mostly get away with copying gameplay elements.  Look at how uncharted has totally ripped off Tomb Raider (and done it better).  Same with football or sports games.

It's characters and text that holds real IP value.  It's hard to actually trademark or copyright a gameplay mechanic, unless it's based around an actual product, like air hockey for example.
My for Sale / Trade thread
http://www.famicomworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=9423.msg133828#msg133828
大事なのは、オチに至るまでの積み重ねなのです。

Medisinyl

Quote from: L___E___T on October 17, 2009, 11:59:26 am
gameplay elements?  You can mostly get away with copying gameplay elements.  Look at how uncharted has totally ripped off Tomb Raider (and done it better).  Same with football or sports games.

It's characters and text that holds real IP value.  It's hard to actually trademark or copyright a gameplay mechanic, unless it's based around an actual product, like air hockey for example.


No, I meant characters and exact replications of certain map sections (the enemy that has a bunch of little things flying around him in a circle, the room with the line of water in the exact same location with the same dungeon layout, same interface, etc.  

There have been legal issues for lesser things, especially in music where artists have lost all profits for "accidentally" having a similar passage as another artist's song.  

With the fame of Zelda, it is all rather blatant here. 

L___E___T

..It is, I agree.  Everyone has noticed but yet still no complaint from Nintendo it seems.  Odd when you consider it's on a rival platform too.

Let's see what happens!!
My for Sale / Trade thread
http://www.famicomworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=9423.msg133828#msg133828
大事なのは、オチに至るまでの積み重ねなのです。

manuel

I think if Nintendo haven't done something by now, they also won't in the future.
It's probably ok to regard this one as "safe" now.  :D

Medisinyl

Quote from: manuel on October 17, 2009, 11:12:07 pm
I think if Nintendo haven't done something by now, they also won't in the future.
It's probably ok to regard this one as "safe" now.  :D



Well, if they don't have their hand in it already, who knows what may happen if it generates a lot of sales (based solely on the fact it looks just like a 3D version of Zelda 1 and 3).  Money may change everything. 

manuel

The Japanese are not as "hardcore" with "similar contents", or however we can call that. It's a sort of flattery here. There are a lot of manga that blatantly rip off others and many stores often use famous manga/anime/game characters for advertising purposes without special consent by the respective owners.

You're right that money is a big factor, but in the end I personally think it this game won't sell enough copies to produce any problems.

L___E___T

October 20, 2009, 11:18:47 am #57 Last Edit: October 20, 2009, 11:24:06 am by L___E___T
[UPDATE]   Even more reasons to love this game!

http://kotaku.com/5385422/3d-dot-heroes-has-the-bestest-load-screens/gallery/

Though I would have liked to guess them for myself..




On a side note - I'm kinda surprised a game like this even has to load.  I know Blu-ray discs take longer to read than DVD and that causes a delay and some necessary loading but still, this isn't too taxing on system resources.  Now look at Uncharted 2 which runs flawlessly at 1080p and has no loading screens at all, none!
My for Sale / Trade thread
http://www.famicomworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=9423.msg133828#msg133828
大事なのは、オチに至るまでの積み重ねなのです。

manuel

Either bad programming or they just want to show off loading screens.

UglyJoe